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Jilly_in_VA

(10,639 posts)
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 11:53 AM Apr 2023

Man Who Shot Ralph Yarl Watched Fox News Nonstop and Said 'Racist Things,' Grandson Says

The grandson of the Kansas City, Missouri man accused of shooting an unarmed Black teenager in the head and arm says his grandfather “holds racist tendencies” and watches Fox News around the clock.

Andrew Lester, 84, pleaded not guilty to two felonies Wednesday: first-degree assault, which carries a maximum sentence of life in prison, and armed criminal action. Lester allegedly shot 16-year-old Ralph Yarl through his home’s glass door when Yarl mistakenly went to his home while trying to pick up his twin brothers on the night of April 13.

In an interview with CNN’s Don Lemon Thursday morning, Lester’s grandson, Klint Ludwig, said he’s “disgusted” by the shooting and stands with Yarl.

“This country, it happens over and over again where people get away with killing unarmed innocent Black people,” he said.

Ludwig said his grandfather’s “racist tendencies” have been reinforced by his media diet.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/5d9b45/ralph-yarl-shot-andrew-lester-foxnews

Whoooooo's shocked? I bet his lawyer will try to plead insanity.

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Man Who Shot Ralph Yarl Watched Fox News Nonstop and Said 'Racist Things,' Grandson Says (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Apr 2023 OP
Fox doesn't care how many Americans they kill. Create hatred and give everyone a gun. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #1
Violence and death that they inspire is good for business. Once misrepresented with their usual RockRaven Apr 2023 #5
GOP fascists also like the death and destruction. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #6
And apparently they are upping their fees from cable companies underpants Apr 2023 #8
Yes the GOP and corporate media are all in working for death and destruction. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #9
Why should it be based on subscribers? Shouldn't it be based on viewers? LiberalFighter Apr 2023 #34
he very well could have a legit diminished capacity defense. mopinko Apr 2023 #2
My racist grandfather used to beat my mother with an Army belt. Aristus Apr 2023 #3
I heard yesterday evening Jilly_in_VA Apr 2023 #4
Yes usually someone brought into a hospital ER with a gunshot to the head doesn't end well. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #7
I did hear there was a skull fracture with some intrusion Maru Kitteh Apr 2023 #22
We don't really know the extent of any brain damage until the swelling goes down. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #28
Least surprising news of the day. (nt) Paladin Apr 2023 #10
Fox "News" is hazardous to your health. calimary Apr 2023 #11
Weird, I just read a comment here the other day about (and I paraphrase) 'this poor, Carlitos Brigante Apr 2023 #12
This fuckstick is a fucking turd Aviation Pro Apr 2023 #13
"Mission Accomplished," Rupert Murdoch, April 20, 2023 Bristlecone Apr 2023 #14
Ding, ding, ding LittleGirl Apr 2023 #18
Not all of Fox News viewers are violent, deranged, racists LiberalLovinLug Apr 2023 #15
Fortunately, a life sentence will probably be 5 years or so. LudwigPastorius Apr 2023 #16
The young will save themselves from this hate. It's too late to save the rest of us. nt samrob22 Apr 2023 #17
That's what they said when I was young? Maru Kitteh Apr 2023 #24
Yes, I fear religions and all of the fear and divisiveness that comes with them are Trust_Reality Apr 2023 #31
Smart young man. C Moon Apr 2023 #19
shocker jcgoldie Apr 2023 #20
The rest of his family says otherwise Kaleva Apr 2023 #21
Got a link on that? Kingofalldems Apr 2023 #27
It's in the article the OP provided a link to Kaleva Apr 2023 #30
Where in the linked article do you see any of that? nt Carlitos Brigante Apr 2023 #36
My bad. It's in another article Kaleva Apr 2023 #37
Yeah, I'd read all that, elsewhere. But 2 people don't constitute "the rest of his family". Then Carlitos Brigante Apr 2023 #39
Seems like an admission of racism to me. yardwork Apr 2023 #40
Wow.. I'm surprised about his Grandson.. Cha Apr 2023 #23
Faux needs to start seeing lawsuits on these PlutosHeart Apr 2023 #26
Yes! TY Cha Apr 2023 #29
After the Dominion settlement and other settlements coming, maybe bluestarone Apr 2023 #25
Yes. With Fox is apparently all about greed, so monetary settlements should be quite useful. Trust_Reality Apr 2023 #32
Wonder how much granddad's house is worth. I've got a feeling Ralph is going to own it. Vinca Apr 2023 #33
Hope so. It's the least he's owed. yardwork Apr 2023 #41
From his picture, he looks like a stereotypical Fox News wacko. ificandream Apr 2023 #35
According to his X wife he has always been violent. leftyladyfrommo Apr 2023 #38
Well, my mom always said Jilly_in_VA Apr 2023 #43
Seems like he doesn't like dear old grandpa much MissMillie Apr 2023 #42
The grandson said he's sick of white people shooting Black people. yardwork Apr 2023 #44

Irish_Dem

(55,562 posts)
1. Fox doesn't care how many Americans they kill. Create hatred and give everyone a gun.
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 11:56 AM
Apr 2023

It is their business model to create as much hatred, division, death and destruction as possible.
And it is a quite lucrative business model.

RockRaven

(15,903 posts)
5. Violence and death that they inspire is good for business. Once misrepresented with their usual
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 12:07 PM
Apr 2023

lies, it reinforces the fear and anger they are intentionally spreading. The predictable results of their misdeeds is just more grist for the mill.

Irish_Dem

(55,562 posts)
6. GOP fascists also like the death and destruction.
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 12:09 PM
Apr 2023

They fund raise and get votes from it.

And they can get control with a fearful populace.

underpants

(185,262 posts)
8. And apparently they are upping their fees from cable companies
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 12:16 PM
Apr 2023
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217844263

Following Fox News’ massive defamation settlement paid out to Dominion Election Systems, the network is now pursuing an even more aggressive strategy to raise revenue by increasing the fee paid by cable and satellite providers to $3 per subscriber, according to a new report from Vanity Fair.

Fox News executives insist that sponsors have not been spooked by the Big Lie scandal, nor have the cable and satellite providers that carry the network. In the negotiations that are taking place this spring between Fox and the likes of Comcast, Fox wants to break past the three-buck mark—meaning three dollars per cable household per month, according to sources familiar with the matter. Even though the American cable universe is shrinking, Murdoch and his son Lachlan Murdoch are still extracting billions of dollars.

Irish_Dem

(55,562 posts)
9. Yes the GOP and corporate media are all in working for death and destruction.
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 12:20 PM
Apr 2023

Brings in money and votes.

mopinko

(71,364 posts)
2. he very well could have a legit diminished capacity defense.
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 11:58 AM
Apr 2023

a whole lot of ppl express their dementia w prejudice and anger.
i’ll wait and see.
was someone supposed to be watching him? he looked pretty feeble.

but no way should that dude have been able to have a gun. i’m just glad it wasnt something more dangerous.
this is why it matters to ban the worst of the worst. w an ar….

Aristus

(67,599 posts)
3. My racist grandfather used to beat my mother with an Army belt.
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 12:04 PM
Apr 2023

If he were alive today, I have no doubt he'd have an arsenal of weapons, and be a devout FOX watcher...

Jilly_in_VA

(10,639 posts)
4. I heard yesterday evening
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 12:05 PM
Apr 2023

that Ralph Yarl is now recovering at home. Thanks be to all the gods. When I heard "shot in the head" I envisioned all sorts of horrors.

Irish_Dem

(55,562 posts)
7. Yes usually someone brought into a hospital ER with a gunshot to the head doesn't end well.
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 12:11 PM
Apr 2023

I wonder if there is going to be permanent damage.

Maru Kitteh

(28,716 posts)
22. I did hear there was a skull fracture with some intrusion
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 02:22 PM
Apr 2023

a fair guess is that one of the shots broke through the skull and then stopped at the dura mater.

Guessing the most harmful of the permanent damage will be to Mr. Yarl (and his family) as a person, to his emotional well-being. The vigilance every POC feels while out in the world will be multiplied exponentially for this young man and those close to him.




Irish_Dem

(55,562 posts)
28. We don't really know the extent of any brain damage until the swelling goes down.
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 03:14 PM
Apr 2023

Then he can be evaluated to determine if he lost some brain function.

Yes he is going to have emotional issues for sure.

calimary

(83,435 posts)
11. Fox "News" is hazardous to your health.
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 01:20 PM
Apr 2023

It certainly rots one’s brain and disables one’s conscience.

Aviation Pro

(13,008 posts)
13. This fuckstick is a fucking turd
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 01:29 PM
Apr 2023

He's been waiting all his life for 'permission' to shoot a POC.

Oh, and fuck you and your age, that's not a get out of jail free card.

LittleGirl

(8,333 posts)
18. Ding, ding, ding
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 02:01 PM
Apr 2023

Fed a diet 24/7 of police arrests of those bad people on Fox local and international tv.
Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha going to do, bad boys!

Instead…
Watch BBC nature programs and volunteer some time to preserve your home land.
Meet the freaking neighbors so there’s less unknowns.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,305 posts)
15. Not all of Fox News viewers are violent, deranged, racists
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 01:43 PM
Apr 2023

But all violent, deranged, racists watch Fox News.

Maru Kitteh

(28,716 posts)
24. That's what they said when I was young?
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 02:33 PM
Apr 2023

I don't know what the answer is, but it's abundantly clear we've not found it yet. One thing we do know after thousands of years and body counts into the hundreds of millions at least, it will NOT be found in religion, that's for sure.



Trust_Reality

(1,811 posts)
31. Yes, I fear religions and all of the fear and divisiveness that comes with them are
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 03:46 PM
Apr 2023

here to stay. I lot of people love God, guns, and Fox "News".

I consider it a form of insanity.

Kaleva

(37,589 posts)
21. The rest of his family says otherwise
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 02:11 PM
Apr 2023

I'll wait for more info as to if he's a racist or not and watches Fox non-stop.

I do believe he has little to no training as far as using a gun for self/ home defense. He wouldn't have gone to the door armed and opened it if he had

Kaleva

(37,589 posts)
37. My bad. It's in another article
Fri Apr 21, 2023, 03:18 AM
Apr 2023

"Two other relatives who spoke with The Star said they didn’t believe Lester was a racist and thought he likely was scared when he shot Yarl."
.
"Another grandson of Lester’s said he thinks characterizing the shooting as a hate crime is inaccurate.

Daniel Ludwig, 30, of Kansas City — who is Klint’s older brother — said he did not believe race played a role in the shooting."


https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article274517706.html

Carlitos Brigante

(26,714 posts)
39. Yeah, I'd read all that, elsewhere. But 2 people don't constitute "the rest of his family". Then
Fri Apr 21, 2023, 09:06 AM
Apr 2023

there's the ex wife who hasn't spoken to him on decades because she used to live in fear of him and his anger. No friends or relatives showed up at the hearing to support him either.

yardwork

(63,342 posts)
40. Seems like an admission of racism to me.
Fri Apr 21, 2023, 09:12 AM
Apr 2023

"Scared" of a Black teen? Why? Why would he be so scared that he opened the main door and shot through the glass storm door?

When I'm scared I don't open the door.

And 99% of Americans who are racist insist they're not.

Cha

(302,642 posts)
23. Wow.. I'm surprised about his Grandson..
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 02:23 PM
Apr 2023

telling it like it is and turning against this grandfather.

He brings out the Ugliness of fux sewer and the killing of unarmed Black People in this country.

bluestarone

(17,848 posts)
25. After the Dominion settlement and other settlements coming, maybe
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 02:40 PM
Apr 2023

It's time for the networks that CONTINUE to carry Fox, should be sued by families that have victims involved with Gun violence. LIES are LIES!

Trust_Reality

(1,811 posts)
32. Yes. With Fox is apparently all about greed, so monetary settlements should be quite useful.
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 03:52 PM
Apr 2023

If the settlements are big enough. Otherwise it is just a business expense.

Wipe out the Fox bastards and all of their comrades.

Jilly_in_VA

(10,639 posts)
43. Well, my mom always said
Fri Apr 21, 2023, 12:41 PM
Apr 2023

that when people start losing it, they just get more like they are. Think on that for a few minutes.

MissMillie

(38,845 posts)
42. Seems like he doesn't like dear old grandpa much
Fri Apr 21, 2023, 09:44 AM
Apr 2023

Seriously... why would this guy go on CNN and call his grandpa a racist?

Mind you, I'm not doubting WHAT he said. And it's quite possible that his interview may put things in motion for a hate-crime charge (which seems warranted).

But all the good his interview might do, it won't help his grandfather any.

Gotta wonder about the family dynamics.

yardwork

(63,342 posts)
44. The grandson said he's sick of white people shooting Black people.
Fri Apr 21, 2023, 01:04 PM
Apr 2023

I think he feels that he's in a position to speak up. Good for him. There's a point where family loyalty is less important than righting wrongs.

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