They're the same damn people...

[CousinIT]

SOURCE:

Link to tweet

[marble falls]

1. They want 70 year olds to become the new minimum wage/undocumented cheap workers. They think ...

... think our SSI should subsidize their slave wage offerings.

[haele]

11. Actually, 'they' want anyone starting to slow down to leave permanently.

If you're no longer useful, or are developing 'problems' that impact your mobility, dexterity, or mental acuity needed to do your tasking in life, go away and die in a corner once you run out of any savings or items of value you can sell to maintain your life.
Doesn't matter if anyone depends on you, if you're sick or injured, you're disposable.
That's end stage Capitalism. Zero Sum games among the billionaires.

Haele

[woodsprite]

14. But they want to take that away as well. nt

[no_hypocrisy]

2. Pretty sure new ageism starts at 40.

[OldBaldy1701E]

3. That was my first thought when I saw the meme.

That crap starts at 40 these days. Plus, they left out a few things, but the end is still the same. Those that want you to die making them richer and refuse to give you any aid whatsoever, not to mention cutting funding for every program that people like us need, are the same people. And, we are still letting them do this.

[former9thward]

29. The unemployment rate does not support that.

Unemployment for those 45 and older is about 1/3 less than the overall average. Close to 2% or lower. The highest rates (in the 10% range are for people under 25.

https://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cpseea10.htm

[ck4829]

5. The same people...

Who deny and deny you from work then tell you need more experience.

Who take bonuses and bonuses as younger people are entering the job market with less and less.

[jerseyjim]

6. They're also the same people..

who claim to be pro-life, but don't want assault weapons banned and do not care about women who might die
if they carry to term or need treatment during a miscarriage.

[Silent3]

7. Sure they'll hire you

...as a greeter at Walmart, or the like.

[infullview]

8. I am at retirement age and still employed in my field.

BUT ageism is a thing. I am no longer assigned work that puts me on a critical path. Apparently, the specter of being hit by a bus looms large now. Also, insurance is STILL an issue as premiums are adjusted upward for group plans based on the average age of the workforce. That just invites age discrimination.

Edit: Yes, I am eligible for Medicare Part A and B etc.. but I have a family group plan as I have a daughter in college and wife who 10 years younger than me to cover.

[NullTuples]

33. "premiums are adjusted upward for group plans based on the average age of the workforce."

This simply should not be legal because it *will* result in biased practices in most companies.

Insurance companies aren't exactly hurting for profits. Cigna - $1 billion in profits reported in February. United Health - $4.7 billion reported a month earlier. And so on.

[Backseat Driver]

9. Give a listen (at the top) or read this one while grinding what's left of your teeth!

overemployed-hustlers-exploit-chatgpt-to-take-on-even-more-full-time-jobs

One guy: "ChatGPT does like 80 percent of my job," said one FT worker. Another is holding the line at four robot-performed jobs. "Five would be overkill," he said."

Yeah, earn enough by exploitively jockeying these FT jobs each w/different employers to retire uber-wealthy at 35??? (None of the four employers has caught on yet, either). JHP, he likely mines bitcoin in the background as well!

https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7begx/overemployed-hustlers-exploit-chatgpt-to-take-on-even-more-full-time-jobs

[twodogsbarking]

10. We can hire two young people for what you are making.

The reward for working hard, getting raises and growing old.
I was pressured to work half-time with no benefits at about age 63.
Finally just retired at 65. Half-time really meant doing the same work.
I'm old not brain dead.

[BoomaofBandM]

12. And the same people who want to cut Medicare and social security.

[CousinIT]

22. Yep. Damn right.

They're like: "Oh, you're over 50 and not wealthy? Too bad, so sad. Sucks to be you! Now, go die!"

[NBachers]

13. "You have finished using your time allotment. Come with us and you will not be harmed."

[Rebl2]

15. No truer

words spoken. I remember when my Mom retired, it wasn’t because she wanted to (late eighties) but they wanted to push her out. She made too much money and they gave her a bonus and her 401k and no health insurance. She wanted to work elsewhere, but she knew nobody was going to higher a 60 year old woman. A similar move was made with my Dad a couple years before my Mom. He was happy to retire though.
Oddly when my husband wanted to retire a few years back, they pleaded for him to stay.

[Wounded Bear]

16. K & R...nt

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

17. I had no trouble getting hired after age 60.

It depends on what kind of work you're going for. Heck, I turned down one job because I wanted part time, and their idea of part time was 30 hours a week. I only wanted 20.

And then the people who complain they won't ever be able to retire generally have not saved anything for retirement. Just don't spend every penny you make.

[CousinIT]

20. It definitely depends on the field and work. Tech workers when old are tossed. Esp if a minority.

If you've spent your entire life in one field or two, and can no longer find work in those, that makes things very difficult. Whose going to hire a green/needs to be trained oldster? Maybe for cheap or free. I guess people over 60 are the new teenage McDonald's workers - Walmart greeters and such. OTOH maybe a field like accounting would be lucrative in older age groups.

Ageism + sexism or Ageism + racism is a double whammy. But like you say, depends on the field.

[Maru Kitteh]

27. Frowning on others saying they should have saved is PURE privilege.

Don't get me wrong. I'm glad you could. I'm glad I can, but recognize there are literally millions at any time (and that number is growing) who have no path.

[Deuxcents]

28. Medical bills can bankrupt almost any one

[Maru Kitteh]

31. Damn skippy. Just one of the many circumstances that can deny

or derail one's ability to put anything aside.

[COL Mustard]

36. Your comment about retirement is spot on

I’m also mid-60s (how did that happen?) and I plan to work for another few years, until I’m comfortable with my retirement savings plan. When I was younger, it was much harder to really save, with kids and home expenses, so it wasn’t as much of a priority. Now I’m able to max out my account each year, but it’ll still take me a little while longer to get where I want to be. I’m also fortunate that I like my job and the people I work with.

[RANDYWILDMAN]

18. 70 are whipper snappers, 80 is the new 70 ! or work till death UGUG

Having just joined the 50 club, I know that nobody is gonna hire me now

[rubbersole]

21. The 50/50 Club.

Over 50 and think you should make $50K a year? Unemployable in America.

[IronLionZion]

19. Minority millennials like me are simultaneously stealing your jobs and too lazy to work

[COL Mustard]

37. AND GET OFF MY LAWN!!!

I know, right? Either lazy or job stealing!

[AllaN01Bear]

23. a friend of mine got fired a while back just as he was set to retire.

lost pensions and everything.

[former9thward]

32. How long did he work there?

Federal law requires pensions vest after 3 years (partially) and up to seven years (full). So if someone worked 3 years they can't lose their pension. If they worked less than 3 years they get any money back they contributed.

https://smartasset.com/retirement/being-fully-vested-in-a-retirement-plan

[republianmushroom]

24. Yep

[barbaraann]

25. AND they want to bring back child labor and eliminate all regulations that protect workers.

Not to mention--eliminate the unions.

[TexasBushwhacker]

26. True that!

I am job hunting at age 66 because my boss is likely to retire before I do. I want to work until I'm 70, but frankly, he's not likely to live that long. BTW, he's almost 2 years younger.

[infullview]

35. We are roughly the same age.

I managed to stay viable in my field by always combining my primary skills as a programmer with niche skills. For example, a programmer with expert knowledge of hippaa compliance, or programmer with IT security specialization, etc.. My daughter is working on a Marine biology degree with Marine law because she's betting on climate change as a force for more people in that field.

[Cha]

30. TY IT!

[burrowowl]

34. Kick!