Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
76 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Erdogon has had a heart attack (Original Post) nolabear Apr 2023 OP
Here's hoping Matthew28 Apr 2023 #1
Is he the fascist CPAC and Carlson have fallen in love with... brush Apr 2023 #35
You are thinking of Orban of Hungary Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2023 #43
Tucker would still date Erdogon if he called Kennah Apr 2023 #65
Off Brand Orban Mopar151 Apr 2023 #46
Erdogon had been trailing in the soon-coming election. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2023 #40
I agree LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2023 #48
... roamer65 Apr 2023 #2
Interesting. Coventina Apr 2023 #3
Thank you TheProle Apr 2023 #8
+1 Maru Kitteh Apr 2023 #58
Sweden joins NATO lapfog_1 Apr 2023 #4
I have very little understanding of the political situation in Turkey EYESORE 9001 Apr 2023 #5
Gee, that's a shame BigmanPigman Apr 2023 #6
👍 Rebl2 Apr 2023 #9
Another 👍 tosh Apr 2023 #14
I hope so bdamomma Apr 2023 #57
That was just my top three... BigmanPigman Apr 2023 #69
It's real - a severe heart attack malaise Apr 2023 #7
Summoning family... TheProle Apr 2023 #10
Yeah but ... that CGTN America tweet has been taken down muriel_volestrangler Apr 2023 #21
He let out a hellacious fart - they stopped the interview - and he came back Effete Snob Apr 2023 #27
Nope Effete Snob Apr 2023 #26
Turkey's Erdogan cancels election rallies for health reasons. elleng Apr 2023 #11
I'll wait for a reliable news source brooklynite Apr 2023 #12
Yup Effete Snob Apr 2023 #25
Any M$M reporting this? Until then I think I'll wait to comment (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Apr 2023 #13
It seems to be slowly spreading. See above in thread. nolabear Apr 2023 #16
Nope - he paused a TV interview and came back Effete Snob Apr 2023 #24
This is astonishing! Amishman Apr 2023 #15
Oh no! vercetti2021 Apr 2023 #17
I so hope that fucker assumes room temperature, even if this news is false Celerity Apr 2023 #18
Thoughts & Prayers Bo Zarts Apr 2023 #19
The official news agency is denying it muriel_volestrangler Apr 2023 #20
Isn't there an upcoming election there soon? I know there was talk that he could lose. Bev54 Apr 2023 #22
Nope Effete Snob Apr 2023 #23
Please stop reporting conspiracy theories as if they are "news." Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #28
+1 Effete Snob Apr 2023 #30
What the fuck happened to critical thinking? Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #36
There's gonna be a lot more of this Effete Snob Apr 2023 #39
I pity those who say that DU is their best source of "news." Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #45
We're all entitled to make mistakes. Even you RainBox. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Apr 2023 #42
None of us are "entitled" to post conspiracy theories that have not been vetted in any degree Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #44
? I don't get it. I guess some of us are more tolerant and some more risk averse. littlemissmartypants Apr 2023 #49
Tolerant of what? The spreading of lies, disinformation, and rumor-mongering that are presented Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #50
I'm sorry you're having such a bad day, Rain. Maybe tomorrow will be better. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Apr 2023 #51
I can't wish him ill, but I look forward to reading the obituary. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2023 #29
Sorry, I hope he's Erdo-gone. Mysterian Apr 2023 #31
Post of the day nt 617Blue Apr 2023 #33
Hopefully he's dead. Beautiful Disaster Apr 2023 #32
If he dies, he won't be missed by me. Remember this!!!!!!!! Takket Apr 2023 #34
Reuters says stomach bug blogslug Apr 2023 #37
Surprised he even had a heart Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2023 #38
Exactly bdamomma Apr 2023 #59
He's a fascist Johnny2X2X Apr 2023 #41
Shocking headline: "Erdoğan Has A Heart." johnp3907 Apr 2023 #47
0. Erdogon has had a heart attack LOLarkey Apr 2023 #52
Welcome to DU! panader0 Apr 2023 #54
... Sky Jewels Apr 2023 #53
Timing is a strange thing BidenRocks Apr 2023 #55
Ok entirely off topic but I have become a great fan of Turkish historical dramas. Most episodes are Pepsidog Apr 2023 #56
Apparently Russia and China are spreading disinfo about this also. Hortensis Apr 2023 #60
Shame that so much Russian propaganda get swallowed and spread with utter credulity Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #63
At very least start w caution warning for "interesting" but unverified. Hortensis Apr 2023 #66
Yeah, one might report that there are some unsubstantiated rumors flying around the Twitterverse Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #68
Or correct, but agree. Only info still "health reasons," GI problems. Hortensis Apr 2023 #70
I'd love nothing more than to see the Turkish people remove Erdogan from power. Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #71
+1000. After the 2016 election, Putin bragged/warned? that Hortensis Apr 2023 #73
Putin has been less than a "strategic genius" in some areas, the war on Ukraine being his Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #74
Yup. Providing critical assistance those doing the same in many nations. nt Hortensis Apr 2023 #75
Don't you have to have a heart first? (nt) LostOne4Ever Apr 2023 #61
Asshole has a heart? Aristus Apr 2023 #62
Not seeing anything concrete, so I doubt it. Xolodno Apr 2023 #64
If Putin visits, stay away from windows Kennah Apr 2023 #67
Update FelineOverlord Apr 2023 #72
Turkey is a NATO member. For real. Takket Apr 2023 #76

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,062 posts)
43. You are thinking of Orban of Hungary
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 06:31 PM
Apr 2023

But Erdogon is not a good friend of democracy. Friendly enough that elections might be somewhat competitive, but he accepts no criticism and plays power politics to suppress it.

Mopar151

(10,006 posts)
46. Off Brand Orban
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 06:37 PM
Apr 2023

Is what our friend Ferret calls Trump. Fuckums wants to compare testicle tans with O- bag.

Erdogan hates everybody, and double for Kurds. He pretty much has Putin begging for whatever shipping he will let pass. Any replacement may be less favorable.....

Coventina

(27,223 posts)
3. Interesting.
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 05:09 PM
Apr 2023

I honestly don't know what to wish for.

This could be destabilizing in a bad way.

I despise the man but......

lapfog_1

(29,238 posts)
4. Sweden joins NATO
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 05:10 PM
Apr 2023

Putin's failure and nightmare is complete.

That's if he is dead or sidelined and someone more reasonable takes over in Turkey.

EYESORE 9001

(26,025 posts)
5. I have very little understanding of the political situation in Turkey
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 05:11 PM
Apr 2023

but I’m relieved that poot’s collaboration with an ostensibly democratically elected would-be autocrat and ostensible NATO ally is delayed. Poot’s got enough on his plate already, such as losing his war for fun & profit against Ukraine.

BigmanPigman

(51,648 posts)
69. That was just my top three...
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 09:29 PM
Apr 2023

The "tip" of my list of "Hopefully, next.....". It is a very long list.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,403 posts)
21. Yeah but ... that CGTN America tweet has been taken down
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 05:30 PM
Apr 2023

Google search on the text gives:
CGTN America on Twitter: "Turkish President Erdogan had …



WebTurkish President Erdogan had suffered a myocardial infarction earlier today and is currently hospitalised in critical condition. His wife and family members have been requested to come to the hospital. 26 Apr 2023 18:47:02

and
is "this page doesn't exist".
 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
27. He let out a hellacious fart - they stopped the interview - and he came back
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 05:37 PM
Apr 2023

There's video of before and after the incident.


nolabear

(42,001 posts)
16. It seems to be slowly spreading. See above in thread.
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 05:23 PM
Apr 2023

Reuters has it. I’m not watching cable news right now so don’t know what’s going on. It’s certainly consequential.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,403 posts)
20. The official news agency is denying it
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 05:26 PM
Apr 2023
Türkiye rejects 'baseless claims' on President Erdogan's health

"We categorically reject such baseless claims regarding President @RTErdogan’s health. The President will attend tomorrow's nuclear power plant opening via videoconference," the country's Communications Director Fahrettin Altun said on Twitter.

"No amount of disinformation can dispute the fact that the Turkish people stand with their leader and @RTErdogan and his AK (Justice and Development) Party are set to win the May 14 elections," Altun added.

The directorate's center for combating disinformation also said the claims shared on some social media accounts that President Erdogan "had a heart attack and was hospitalized" did not reflect the truth.​​​​​​​

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/turkiye/turkiye-rejects-baseless-claims-on-president-erdogans-health/2882301

Bev54

(10,087 posts)
22. Isn't there an upcoming election there soon? I know there was talk that he could lose.
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 05:30 PM
Apr 2023

So he could be stressed about it, just hope he doesn't get a sympathy vote.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
36. What the fuck happened to critical thinking?
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 06:20 PM
Apr 2023

No respectable news organization has vetted this story and yet it is "reported" her on DU as if it is a "fact."

Good lord.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
45. I pity those who say that DU is their best source of "news."
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 06:37 PM
Apr 2023

DU should not be a platform for conspiracy theories, but that's precisely what it is.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
44. None of us are "entitled" to post conspiracy theories that have not been vetted in any degree
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 06:35 PM
Apr 2023

as if they are "facts."

Not is NOT a mistake.



littlemissmartypants

(22,844 posts)
49. ? I don't get it. I guess some of us are more tolerant and some more risk averse.
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 06:47 PM
Apr 2023

Optimists are seldom surprised by trouble. So I've heard.

I don't understand that ...

"Not is NOT a mistake."



 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
50. Tolerant of what? The spreading of lies, disinformation, and rumor-mongering that are presented
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 06:51 PM
Apr 2023

as "facts?"

Yes. I have no tolerance for spreading "fake news" and conspiracy theories as if they are the known truth.

That the way the Trumpists behave, We Democrats need to do a whole lot better than this.

Nothing confusing about that. And it only seems "controversial" here on DU. Not much of a recommend for this forum, sorry to say.

blogslug

(38,021 posts)
37. Reuters says stomach bug
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 06:23 PM
Apr 2023
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/turkeys-erdogan-cancels-election-rallies-day-health-reasons-2023-04-26/

April 26, 20232:30 PM CDT

ANKARA, April 26 (Reuters) - Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan canceled his scheduled campaign rallies on Wednesday and Thursday for health reasons, weeks before May 14 presidential and parliamentary elections.

"Today, I will rest at home with the advice of my doctors," Erdogan wrote on his Twitter account on Wednesday.

Later, AK Party deputy chair Erkan Kandemir said Erdogan would attend a ceremony at the Akkuyu nuclear power plant in the southern Mersin province via videolink on Thursday.

"Our Mersin rally is also planned to be held on a future date," he posted on Twitter.

Late on Tuesday, Erdogan cut short a live TV interview during which he said he felt sick with an upset stomach...


Johnny2X2X

(19,253 posts)
41. He's a fascist
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 06:28 PM
Apr 2023

Jailed over 100,000 of his political opponents which were really just anyone not Right Wing enough. Jailed teachers and college professors who ever stood up for Democracy.

LOLarkey

(23 posts)
52. 0. Erdogon has had a heart attack
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 07:06 PM
Apr 2023

I saw Twitter is losing its mind but I have not found any credible sources confirming

BidenRocks

(827 posts)
55. Timing is a strange thing
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 07:18 PM
Apr 2023

This happened on the anniversary of the Armenian genocide.

Let me guess, he was on the ground floor.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
56. Ok entirely off topic but I have become a great fan of Turkish historical dramas. Most episodes are
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 07:27 PM
Apr 2023

over two hours and the production value is very high. I got addicted to them during the pandemic and have learned a tremendous amount about Turkish history staring with Ertugrul all the way through the Ottoman Empire. At first, Erdogan was not a fan of the shows but then realized that the shows portrayed Turks and Islam in a very positive manner. The shows are subtitled but easy to follow.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
60. Apparently Russia and China are spreading disinfo about this also.
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 08:25 PM
Apr 2023

No idea what their psychops strategies would be, or the toxic narratives this would fit into, but I was browsing David Frum's Twitter feed and just happened on this:

David Frum Retweeted
Olga Lautman 🇺🇦
@OlgaNYC1211

SMH so Elon’s verified accounts are busy spreading what looks like Russian propaganda being echoed by China that Erdogan was poisoned. Good job @Twitter w the idiotic blue verification trolls spreading conspiracies. 2024 is going to be insane here of this platform still exists
 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
63. Shame that so much Russian propaganda get swallowed and spread with utter credulity
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 08:35 PM
Apr 2023

here on DU.

This rumor/conspiracy theory survives no attempt at fact-checking so far.

Yet DU is used as a "platform." We need to do much better than this.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
66. At very least start w caution warning for "interesting" but unverified.
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 08:57 PM
Apr 2023

On googling this topic, it looks like Erdogan's practically a Ben & Jerry's of disinfo nexuses -- shop your favorite flavors.

I hadn't realized until I searched on Erdogan, but the earthquake in Turkey-Syria was made in Alaska -- caused by the High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP).

Oh, no! Forgot to post a warning first: FLASHING LIGHTS: *ERASE* *ERASE* *ERASE!*

Proceed with caution.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
68. Yeah, one might report that there are some unsubstantiated rumors flying around the Twitterverse
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 09:19 PM
Apr 2023

that are uncorroborated by any respected news agency, and that would be semi-okay.

But presenting it as a "fact" that Erdogan has had a heart attack isn't kosher.

The OP should really erase this thread.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
70. Or correct, but agree. Only info still "health reasons," GI problems.
Thu Apr 27, 2023, 10:38 AM
Apr 2023

The NYT doesn't mention, WaPo reports stomach complaint and Erdogan's statement.

We'll see.

Voting begins today with Turkish citizens abroad, but in Turkey not until May 14. Polling shows slight lead for the opposition.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
71. I'd love nothing more than to see the Turkish people remove Erdogan from power.
Thu Apr 27, 2023, 10:56 AM
Apr 2023

He has been a disaster for democracy in that country.

Liberal democracy is under threat around the globe, and at home. Part of the problem, in my estimation, is the populist tendency to embrace a conspiracy theory mentality rather than embracing reason.

One can't have a liberal society w/o a commitment to reason and reality-based thinking.

Unfortunately anti-liberal reactionary tendencies are not found exclusively on the populist right.

Those who study how liberal democracy failed in Weimar Germany can see the same patterns.

The far-left in Germany (including Antifaschistische Aktion aka "Antifa&quot declared that the Social Democrats were "social fascists" and they made democrats, not the Nazis, their main enemies.

Will the liberal center hold in this country? I hope so, but this is a time of great peril.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
73. +1000. After the 2016 election, Putin bragged/warned? that
Thu Apr 27, 2023, 11:09 AM
Apr 2023

he was working on growing the alliance of both RW and LW extremists against the Democrats guarding our democracy that advanced his goals so well then. The GOP's of course already become a RW extremist party.

He knows how to destroy democracies from personal experience, as well as from studying history.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
74. Putin has been less than a "strategic genius" in some areas, the war on Ukraine being his
Thu Apr 27, 2023, 11:17 AM
Apr 2023

biggest blunder. But he has been an absolute master of promoting anti-democratic/anti-Democratic forces who are hostile to liberal democracy on both the populist right and the populist far-left.

In that he's been highly successful, not only in the USA with the election of Donald J Trump, but the same scenario is playing out in liberal democracies around the globe.

Spreading disinformation, while actively undermining people's trust in the responsible free press, is all part of the master plan.

Xolodno

(6,409 posts)
64. Not seeing anything concrete, so I doubt it.
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 08:53 PM
Apr 2023

And for all those saying they hope he dies....

He's the devil we know vs. the one we don't. I have to imagine there is someone ready to assume the position and I doubt it will be to anyone's liking.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Erdogon has had a heart a...