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Kid Berwyn

(23,160 posts)
Fri May 12, 2023, 04:40 PM May 2023

"I look at a White Nationalist as a Trump Republican' - Tubby the NAZI

My grandfather and his brothers fought a war to end Fascism. His grandfathers fought in the Civil War to preserve the Union and to end slavery. I am so ashamed to write that today turds like Tommy Tubberville work to normalize NAZISM.





GOP Senator Under Fire Doubles Down:

‘I Look at a White Nationalist as a Trump Republican’


By David Badash
The New Civil Rights Movement, May 12, 2023

U.S. Senator Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) is not walking away from the firestorm he lit earlier this week when he declared white nationalists are simply “Americans.” Now, doubling down, the former college football coach has announced a white nationalist is simply a “Trump Republican.”

Tuberville, already under fire for holding up 184 U.S. Armed Forces promotions or appointments, has been promoting white nationalism by claiming he’s just trying to help the military meet its recruiting goals

NBC News’ Julie Tsirkin asked Senator Tuberville, “Do you want to clarify your comments?”

“The Democrats characterize all MAGA Republicans in the military as white nationalists,” Tuberville incorrectly told her. “Wrong. Okay, we can’t get politics in the military. This has nothing to do with extremists and all that this, you know, my first day here was January 6 had several senators stand up on the Senate floor saying to me we got too many white nationalists, I mean, what the heck is that?”

“We all got different beliefs. You know, I’m a church Christ, Catholics, we got different people. And we all have to make one military. We can’t start distinguishing different types of people. Okay. That’s all I say.”

Continues…

https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/2023/05/us-senator-under-fire-doubles-down-i-look-at-a-white-nationalist-as-a-trump-republican-video/



Alabama was so different before Rove railroaded Don Siegelman.
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walkingman

(10,380 posts)
1. Former college football coach has announced a white nationalist is simply a "Trump Republican."
Fri May 12, 2023, 04:57 PM
May 2023

I tend to agree with this. However, more correctly a "Christian Nationalist".

Kid Berwyn

(23,160 posts)
4. Could be, as the original Dominionists were followers of eugenics.
Fri May 12, 2023, 05:14 PM
May 2023

No matter, we agree that basing sin on skin tone is NAZI.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,098 posts)
3. Hmmm
Fri May 12, 2023, 05:14 PM
May 2023

Do Democrats characterize all MAGA Republicans in the military as White Nationalists, or do they characterize all White Nationalists in the military as MAGA Republicans? The difference may be subtle, but I think it matters.

Kid Berwyn

(23,160 posts)
9. Great question. Need data.
Fri May 12, 2023, 05:31 PM
May 2023

I understand Congress mandated near-zero federal spending on gun violence research. I do know they won’t pass a bill denouncing white supremacy in the military.

Blue Owl

(58,218 posts)
7. It's so Totally Tubular to be a tRump Republican White Nationalist
Fri May 12, 2023, 05:25 PM
May 2023

They're all welcome in Tommy's Tent of Totalitarianism

Kid Berwyn

(23,160 posts)
12. Gov. Siegelman would make an outstanding POTUS
Fri May 12, 2023, 06:28 PM
May 2023




Ex-Alabama Gov. Don Siegelman Speaks Out on Karl Rove, Witch Hunt Hours Before Returning to Jail

Excerpt…

DON SIEGELMAN: Well, I was raising money to get a state referendum passed that would establish a lottery so Alabama’s less fortunate kids would have a chance to go to college for free. Jack Abramoff, in his book, admits that he put $20 million of Indian casino money in Alabama, first to defeat me in 1998 and to defeat the lottery campaign in 1999 and then to defeat me again in 2002. There was a confluence of both the casino interests to get rid of me, to target me and to stop me, as well as Karl Rove and his best friend and his best friend’s wife, who was the U.S. attorney, as well as Karl Rove’s client, who was the state attorney general.

I was raising money, and I had asked a gentleman to raise money for this state referendum. He did, and later I appointed him to the same board on which he had served through three previous governors. And it’s interesting to note that all three of these previous governors had received contributions directly from this CEO. I received a contribution, but it went to a referendum campaign, yet I was targeted and convicted with—for bribery.

The other interesting note here is that the judge lowered the standard by which juries can convict to not an expressed quid pro quo or an explicitly asserted quid pro quo, but, in my case, an implied quid pro quo. So, now we have a standard in Alabama where people can be convicted not on evidence that they actually got together and decided to swap money for favors, but to allow the jury to assume or to imply that there was such a deal.

Continues…

https://www.democracynow.org/2012/9/11/former_alabama_gov_don_siegelman_speaks



In 2017…



Doug Jones argued Don Siegelman prosecution driven by 'partisan politics'

Excerpt…

"It seemed that no sooner had the ink dried on his oath of office, investigators and certain lawyers with the Alabama Attorney General's office targeted Gov. Siegelman for investigation," Jones said.

Continues…

https://www.al.com/news/2017/11/doug_jones_argued_don_siegelma.html



It’s odd, Duppers: We remember important news that most people at the time missed and, thanks to the passing of less than two decades, even fewer today remember.

Whiskeytide

(4,640 posts)
18. I remember Rove's presence in Alabama quite well. ...
Sat May 13, 2023, 09:11 PM
May 2023

… he destroyed quite a few political careers with his underhanded tricks and schemes. Justice Mark Kennedy beat his tactics, but at a cost. And the Alabama Courts never recovered.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/05/the-man-karl-rove-couldnt-beat/238873/

H2O Man

(78,695 posts)
10. Recommended.
Fri May 12, 2023, 05:38 PM
May 2023

I saw a clip of this bag of shit dust the other day, spouting this. To paraphrase Malcolm X, everywhere south of the Canadian border is Alabama when white nationalism is the leading philosophy of the republican party.

Kid Berwyn

(23,160 posts)
15. The kind of people who didn't like Dr. King...
Sat May 13, 2023, 04:53 PM
May 2023

…didn’t like JFK. The late Prof. Donald E. Wilkes documented how the FBI taped a RWNJ who said JFK would be shot by sniper, patsy set up for blame (9 November 1963)

Joseph Adams Milteer, a rabid right-wing racist was tape-recorded 13 days before Dallas detailing the assassination of JFK "with a high-powered rifle from a high-rise office building." In the discussion recorded by FBI informant William Somersett, Milteer outlined the official version of Dallas, complete with patsy, before it happened.



Seems he was prophetic, as two weeks later, Milteer or his lost twin, appears in photographs in Dealey Plaza (above, right). That story should have made the front page and lead every broadcast when FBI Special Agent Donald Adam’s went public with his account, but it didn’t, for some fascist reason.



Somersett: Kennedy’s coming here, I think, on the 18th or something like that to make some kind of speech…

Milteer: You can bet your bottom dollar he is going to have a lot to say about the Cubans because there are so many of them here.

Somersett: Yeah, well, he will have a thousand bodyguards. Don’t worry about that.

Milteer: The more bodyguards he has, the more easier it is to get him.

Somersett: What?

Milteer: The more bodyguards he has the more easier it is to get him.

Somersett: Well, how in the hell do you figure would be the best way to get him?

Milteer: From an office building with a high-powered rifle…

Somersett: They are really going to try to kill him?

Milteer: “Oh, yeah. It’s in the working…

Milteer mentions the name of a Klansman who might do the job, someone he claimed had stalked Dr. King, “but couldn’t get close enough to him.” Shortly, the conversation returned to the President.

Somersett: Hitting this Kennedy I’ll tell you is going to be a hard proposition, I believe. Now you may have it figured out how to get him…an office building and all that, but I don’t know how them Secret Service…they’d never cover all them office buildings and anywhere he’s going. Do you know whether they do that or not?

Milteer: If they have any suspicion they will, of course. But without suspicion the chances are they wouldn’t….You wouldn’t have to take a gun up there…take it up in pieces. All those guns come knock down and you can take them apart.”

Before the end of the tape, the conversation returned to Kennedy.

Somersett: Boy, if that Kennedy gets shot we’ve got to know where we’re at because you know that would be a real shake if they do that.

Milteer: They wouldn’t leave any stone unturned there, no. No way.

Somersett: Oh, hell no.

Milteer: Hell, they’ll pick up somebody within hours after, if anything like that would happen, just to throw the public off.

Somersett: Well, somebody is going to have to go to jail if he gets killed.

Milteer: Just like Bruno Hauptmann in the Lindbergh case, you know.

President Kennedy came to Miami on Nov. 18 without incident and attended the Inter-American Press Association dinner at the Americana Hotel in Bal Harbour. In his diary, Gelber wrote that police assured him the Secret Service knew Milteer’s whereabouts.

Source:

A Miami Police Informant, A Prophetic Racist And Fresh Questions About JFK’s Death

https://www.wlrn.org/politics/2013-11-14/a-miami-police-informant-a-prophetic-racist-and-fresh-questions-about-jfks-death



More information on Milteer:

The Georgian Who Knew a Sniper Would Kill JFK

https://digitalcommons.law.uga.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=1182&context=fac_pm

https://digitalcommons.law.uga.edu/fac_pm/103/

Predictions of Joseph Adam Milteer

https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Predictions_of_Joseph_Milteer.html

So, yeah. Let’s keep on fighting the good fight. Remember, though, who is who and what is what south of the border.

ms liberty

(10,994 posts)
13. Alabama elected a football coach, and it shows. Dumb as a box of f'ing rocks
Fri May 12, 2023, 09:40 PM
May 2023

Full of his own importance and superiority, and completely lacking the knowledge necessary to perform the job they hired him for. Ugh.

Kid Berwyn

(23,160 posts)
16. Tubberville the NAZI is a crook, too.
Sat May 13, 2023, 08:09 PM
May 2023
Tommy Tuberville is a Fraud.



“This is an astounding story,” Sessions said. “Based on the facts already uncovered, it is clear that Tommy Tuberville was one of two partners in a major hedge fund fraud scheme that bilked large sums of money from hardworking people, including Alabamians.”

https://www.alreporter.com/2020/07/06/sessions-tubervilles-fraud-scandal-cant-just-be-swept-under-the-rug/

And he’s a “white nationalist,”

Kid Berwyn

(23,160 posts)
17. It was gradual. Then all at once.
Sat May 13, 2023, 08:49 PM
May 2023

Old news to you, gratuitous. Unknown to more than 99.9 percent of the American public.

Facts curiously missing from any mention of the assassination of President Kennedy and the Warren Commission in corporate media:



Two members of the Warren Commission were directly responsible for the rise of post-war fascism. Allen Dulles, as a top official of the OSS and CIA, incorporated NAZI war criminals into the CIA from its founding. John McCloy, as High Commissioner for Germany, allowed Klaus Barbie, Alfred Krupp, eight members of his board, and who-knows-who-else to escape justice. Of course, Dulles and McCloy also were barons of Wall Street and Beltway Insiders, at the heart of the military industrial complex. We all can see what that means for the United States today.

Background:

The American who let the Nazis rebuild Germany

https://thecritic.co.uk/issues/november-2021/the-american-who-let-the-nazis-rebuild-germany/

CIA and NAZI War Criminals

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB146/index.htm

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