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NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
Sun May 14, 2023, 02:18 PM May 2023

A word about "genocide"

Last edited Sun May 14, 2023, 07:22 PM - Edit history (3)

In a comment on a post of mine regarding Florida's "medical conscience" law, the first comment replied,

"WHAT "genocide" of trans people? And WTF would anyone be doing here chatting away on social media if it was real?
To me, hyperbole insults those for whom reality is causing real problems, as if they aren't bad enough if they aren't lying in a growing pile of bodies awaiting burial.
Kind of an insult to all of us also."



Genocide does not require mass murder, although trans people are dying as a result of the actions against us, and more will die going forward.

From the UN:

"What is the Genocide Convention?
The Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (Genocide Convention) is an instrument of international law that codified for the first time the crime of genocide. Its preamble recognizes that “at all periods of history genocide has inflicted great losses on humanity” and that international cooperation is required to “liberate humankind from such an odious scourge”. According to the Convention, genocide is a crime that can take place both in time of war as well as in time of peace. The definition contained in Article II of the Convention describes genocide as a crime committed with the intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, in whole or in part."


Please note that the Convention was drafted in 1948; since then most humanitarian & human rights groups have expanded the criteria to include sexuality & gender identity as well as disabled people.

Let's dive in:

Kansas, Montana and Tennessee have defined "man" and "woman" based on either whatever was assigned at birth based on a 2-second visual inspection of the external genitals, or based on a very problematic & patriarchal, "developed to create eggs or sperm". Transgender people in those states have been erased from legal existence, in regards to everything and anything where sex or gender are considered.

The following states now ban transgender health care, typically for teens. This causes irreversible damage that can only be minimized afterward. Every major medical association stands behind the care protocols being blocked and has condemned these bans.

Missouri
Florida
Oklahoma
Montana
North Dakota
Indiana
Idaho
West Virginia
Kentucky
Georgia
Iowa
Tennessee
Mississippi
South Dakota
Utah
Alabama
Arizona
Arkansas

Texas and Missouri Republicans have stated they will pass bans before their sessions end in the next few weeks. Penalties in various states range from loss of licensure to 10 years in prison.

20+ states have passed bans on student transgender athletes & restricted bathroom use, erasing them from that part of education & stigmatizing them to their fellow students.

CPAC 2023 speaker Michael Knowles: “For the good of society … transgenderism must be eradicated from public life entirely — the whole preposterous ideology, at every level.”

Republican candidate for Kentucky governor and former U.N. Ambassador Kelly Craft, at a campaign town hall meeing: “Under a Craft-Wise administration, we will not have transgenders in our school system.”

Do a Google News search for "transgenderism" or "transgender ideology" to see an endless stream of Republicans / conservatives / Christians calling for our outright erasure and eradication. This is the messaging going out on their media outlets every single day.

This is genocide, and they won't stop with trans people. They've already started on non-trans women who get pregnant, they've already acted in countless ways against non-white people for so long it's become commonplace. But right now they're making a show of competing against each other to see who can display and enact the most hatred and damage against transgender people. Next year will, I fear, be far worse as we lead into the campaign season for the 2024 elections.

Update: I forgot that Florida also passed a bill that says the state can take custody of children who receive transgender affirming healthcare, and put them in the foster system.

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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
1. What do these people intend to do with the (admittedly small)...
Sun May 14, 2023, 02:31 PM
May 2023

cases where newborn sexual identity is difficult or changed by OR staff?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
3. ethnic, racial or religious group
Sun May 14, 2023, 03:31 PM
May 2023

it doesn't fit in. The definition needs expansion - the asylum law expanded to include particular social groups, and thus was able to included persecution for being gay.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
4. And along these same lines, from Mastodon:
Sun May 14, 2023, 03:32 PM
May 2023

Transgender genocide is just a small indication of who Republicans and similar conservatives are at heart. Causing people to live miserable lives or die is simply not a concern of theirs if it interferes with their goals. And in fact, when it furthers their goals, they celebrate it and do what they can to promote it.

A few thoughts on the matter, from Mastodon:

@AnarchoNinaWrites@mastodon.social
I'm dead serious; and furthermore as someone who has studied fascism, fascists, and the white sumpremacist ideology that binds the together, I can honestly say it was probably a pretty bad idea to tell nazis who think they're invincible that climate catastrophe disproportionately affects all the people they hate the most. They're slowly turning that into a feature, not a bug, in their fantasyland nazi cracker ethos.
May 14, 2023, 07:06

KFuentesGeorge@universeodon.com
I had this SAME EXACT thought when they first came out with the data that said at the start of the pandemic that Black, Indigenous, and Latino people were more likely to die from COVID-19.
Completely unsurprising when the white nationalist movement, led by the white nationalist party immediately began downplaying the pandemic, and blocking all mitigation efforts.

Warpy

(111,224 posts)
7. Reassignment surgery and even most basic care was out of reach in the mid 60s
Sun May 14, 2023, 06:30 PM
May 2023

but I knew someone born male who lived and worked as a woman in the mid 1960s. This is not new, it's not going to go away because a bunch of Christians who willfully misunderstood their bibles think they can bully and pray it away, but it is very rare.

Stupid laws passed by these bullies will make care harder to get and that will raise the suicide rate. They will then start banning books, movies and music. I'd rather ban bullies, but that's proven to be remarkably difficult to do.


NotANeocon

(423 posts)
8. Hermaphrodite
Sun May 14, 2023, 09:22 PM
May 2023

If they actually knew what is written in the holy babble they would know that their sky fairy made all humans hermaphrodites and then used part of this creature to produce two genders from a united binary one.

https://biblehub.com/genesis/5-2.htm

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