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newdayneeded

(1,968 posts)
Tue May 16, 2023, 02:46 PM May 2023

Liz Cheney

I think this selling of pardons is the one that puts trump away. if there's recordings or paperwork backing this up, it seems like a slam dunk.

Did you see DeSantis new laugh video, this guy will go nowhere in the primaries, plus picking a fight with Disney. He's unlikable, unelectable.

I would think now is the time that Liz should jump in. Run a campaign on strictly not being trump or DeSantis.

My hope is she wins nomination, thus permanently eliminating donny from politics. Then, of course, lose the presidency to Biden.

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Liz Cheney (Original Post) newdayneeded May 2023 OP
She is dangerous leftieNanner May 2023 #1
Correct. No way I want the corporate media backing her. Funtatlaguy May 2023 #2
You want Biden to lose? obamanut2012 May 2023 #3
Why? BlackSkimmer May 2023 #7
Biden attracted a fair number of "Lincoln Project" voters in 2020 tinrobot May 2023 #16
Just stop obamanut2012 May 2023 #18
This might be a valid point. newdayneeded May 2023 #9
Post removed Post removed May 2023 #14
Romney voted for Biden obamanut2012 May 2023 #19
Today's Republican base would not vote for her, LuvLoogie May 2023 #4
30% is the MAGA portion of the gop. newdayneeded May 2023 #8
MAGA has been programmed to dislike Liz after she proved loyal to America. pwb May 2023 #5
Every new Trump crime is the "one that puts him away." Irish_Dem May 2023 #6
Well, you definitely nailed that one. BlackSkimmer May 2023 #11
The DOJ has dragged its feet to the point it looks like they must not have much evidence Irish_Dem May 2023 #24
Republican primary voters would never give her the nomination. emulatorloo May 2023 #10
I don't know that they wouldn't. Never underestimate that family. BlackSkimmer May 2023 #12
Have to agree. Also the base -- remember how they pivoted Hortensis May 2023 #15
Absolutely. BlackSkimmer May 2023 #20
Yes. He's shown the capacity to become a monster. Hortensis May 2023 #22
He is a monster, I'm convinced. A sociopath for sure. BlackSkimmer May 2023 #23
She would likely win independents, and conservative Dems, easily. msfiddlestix May 2023 #13
No need to fear... WarGamer May 2023 #28
She would skip the primary all together. She couldn't run as a Republican. msfiddlestix May 2023 #29
Fuck no, she is awful. we can do it May 2023 #17
If she ran as an independant Mr.Bill May 2023 #21
Wrongo bongo. WarGamer May 2023 #27
Liz Cheney reminds me a lot of my first serious girlfriend. hunter May 2023 #25
More of this... WarGamer May 2023 #26

leftieNanner

(15,221 posts)
1. She is dangerous
Tue May 16, 2023, 02:50 PM
May 2023

And don't be so sure that she would lose.

I'm quite certain that she has designs on the Oval Office, but she's also smart enough to keep her head down until her party completely implodes.

Hopefully that will happen soon.

tinrobot

(10,936 posts)
16. Biden attracted a fair number of "Lincoln Project" voters in 2020
Tue May 16, 2023, 04:51 PM
May 2023

Basically Republicans and right-leaning independents who hated Trump.

Liz Cheney would pull a lot of those voters back, making it uncomfortably close.

Response to newdayneeded (Reply #9)

pwb

(11,370 posts)
5. MAGA has been programmed to dislike Liz after she proved loyal to America.
Tue May 16, 2023, 02:56 PM
May 2023

She would find that difficult to bury. Perhaps against Camilla? A woman President for sure. yep.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
11. Well, you definitely nailed that one.
Tue May 16, 2023, 03:31 PM
May 2023

I really have no hope of him facing any consequences ever.

I actually care so little about that pustulant boil that all I want is for him to go away never to be heard of again.

Irish_Dem

(48,896 posts)
24. The DOJ has dragged its feet to the point it looks like they must not have much evidence
Tue May 16, 2023, 06:38 PM
May 2023

and are scraping the bottom of the barrel to find some.

Despite the fact we saw Trump with our own eyes on TV committing crimes.
Or saw pictures of evidence.

emulatorloo

(44,302 posts)
10. Republican primary voters would never give her the nomination.
Tue May 16, 2023, 03:20 PM
May 2023

If she does run, it won’t be to win. It would be to wreck Trump for the general.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
12. I don't know that they wouldn't. Never underestimate that family.
Tue May 16, 2023, 03:36 PM
May 2023

Dick (the undead) is thriving somewhere, and I'll bet money he's got friends in dark, as well as influential, places.

But anything that will wreck the suppurating sore and any possible nomination is fine with me.

That cretin can NEVER be president again.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. Have to agree. Also the base -- remember how they pivoted
Tue May 16, 2023, 04:44 PM
May 2023

to kill Pence? They could pivot the other direction too for their new best chance to slit the liberal/Democratic throat.

Leaders around the planet are afraid he could be president again.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
20. Absolutely.
Tue May 16, 2023, 05:42 PM
May 2023

If the cretin gets anywhere near public office again, he will try to destroy this country.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. Yes. He's shown the capacity to become a monster.
Tue May 16, 2023, 06:16 PM
May 2023

Read about stats supposedly showing he "peaked" in 2016. Just wish they were saying that of those who'd create a monster.

Interesting times.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
23. He is a monster, I'm convinced. A sociopath for sure.
Tue May 16, 2023, 06:25 PM
May 2023

A sad creature always wanting to impress daddy, a bully who had to pick on others to prove himself to himself.

And he just can't quite achieve it.

msfiddlestix

(7,290 posts)
13. She would likely win independents, and conservative Dems, easily.
Tue May 16, 2023, 03:48 PM
May 2023

Liz Cheney Nomination is my worst fear. No matter how extreme her social economic views are, and they are extreme, cringe worthy, those will all be forgotten based on her amazing talent and skill sets as a public speaker.

She, would best Harris is an instant and by a huge margin. This election will really be about Kamala Harris vs ?

She could beat Pence, she could beat tfg, but not Liz Cheney.



msfiddlestix

(7,290 posts)
29. She would skip the primary all together. She couldn't run as a Republican.
Tue May 16, 2023, 09:57 PM
May 2023

She'd run as an independent, toss her hat in just after the primaries. speculating of course.

She would have to have the best polling that would get her even close.

I don't know well impressed with her presentations I feel like the anti-maggat republicans are chomping at the bit to find someone to up-end the GOP shit show. They are not big fans of Harris, Biden's second term would be to much of a nail biter for them.

I hope you're right. all i can do is hope this doesn't happen.

Mr.Bill

(24,438 posts)
21. If she ran as an independant
Tue May 16, 2023, 05:44 PM
May 2023

She would take enough republican votes from their candidate to guarantee Biden's election.

WarGamer

(12,583 posts)
27. Wrongo bongo.
Tue May 16, 2023, 07:09 PM
May 2023

She'd take more votes from Biden by giving GOP'er who hate Trump another option without voting DEM...

hunter

(38,383 posts)
25. Liz Cheney reminds me a lot of my first serious girlfriend.
Tue May 16, 2023, 07:07 PM
May 2023

Our relationship was the David Lynch version of My Big Fat Greek Wedding.

Fortunately for the world, and most especially myself, we broke up before we were married when I jumped out of her moving car and left a lot of my blood and skin on a street in Berkeley California. I still can't even walk or drive by the place without having a PTSD panic attack.

I wouldn't wish or hope that sort of thing on anyone, especially a nation.

At this point it's looking like Donny will remove himself from politics.

Give him enough rope.

Don't magnify Liz Cheney.

WarGamer

(12,583 posts)
26. More of this...
Tue May 16, 2023, 07:09 PM
May 2023

One more time...

Cheney the neocon warmonger HAS NO BASE.

She won't take a SINGLE VOTE from anyone who voted for Trump in 2020.

She won't break 2-3% in a Primary and in a General, running as an Independent, she'd take more votes from Biden.

Let the unemployed neocon warmonger be forgotten.

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