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NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
Fri May 19, 2023, 02:39 PM May 2023

NY High School SUSPENDS 13 Female Athletes Who Started Petition To Wear Sports Bras For Training

From Mastodon, @amydiehl@mstdn.social :

"Dress code sexism: While a boys track and field team was allowed to practice shirtless due to heat, the girls team was not permitted to practice in their sports bras. They were told that was because they had male coaches and the bras were distracting."


Headline: New York High School SUSPENDS 13 Female Athletes Who Started Petition To Wear Sports Bras During Training

A New York high school is under fire online after they suspended the majority of the girl’s track team following an incident over the dress code.
With increasing temperatures, the students recently shifted to practicing outdoors. The boy’s track team began practicing shirtless which motivated the girl’s team to ask the school’s athletic director if they could practice in their lycra crop tops or sports bras. The athletic director for the Albany school district, a woman named Ashley Chapple, felt that the sports bra attire would be too inappropriate. The girls were told their sports bras would be distracting for male coaches
According to sophomore sprinter Jordan Johnson, after practice one day Chappel confronted the female students about “wearing sports bras” adding that they couldn’t wear the clothing “because we have male coaches.” The following week, any female athletes who arrived to practice in a sports bra were asked to leave the session. The same week that some of the female athletes were asked to leave their practice, other girls from the same track team were met by Chapple and security when they attended a school lacrosse game and prevented from entering. Following the lacrosse game incident, 13 members of the girls’ track and field team were suspended from school.



https://www.bleacherbreaker.com/trending/new-york-high-school-suspends-13-female-athletes-who-started-petition-to-wear-sports-bras-during-training/
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NY High School SUSPENDS 13 Female Athletes Who Started Petition To Wear Sports Bras For Training (Original Post) NullTuples May 2023 OP
So the real problem was the middleaged men who couldn't be trusted to treat women respectfully. marble falls May 2023 #1
Post removed Post removed May 2023 #5
That's what I was expecting.... TheRealNorth May 2023 #7
I can read. Here's what I read: Mister Ed May 2023 #15
You forgot this part atreides1 May 2023 #16
That was my takeaway. Pacifist Patriot May 2023 #24
Once again, women pay the price because men can't control their urges. Ocelot II May 2023 #2
This x 1000 Ferrets are Cool May 2023 #17
Bingo sakabatou May 2023 #38
If your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. Probatim May 2023 #3
and largely ignored Conjuay May 2023 #39
Half the time, it's a good idea to ignore him ExWhoDoesntCare May 2023 #55
that pesky Nazarene carpenter, lol Celerity May 2023 #43
Who spoke in Olde English - my favorite version of him. Probatim May 2023 #45
Bah! Everyone knows that the best version of Jesus is... Dr. Strange May 2023 #47
The obvious solution is hiring women coaches for the women athletes FakeNoose May 2023 #4
I don't agree Polybius May 2023 #14
The obvious solution is to fire any coach that the students aren't safe being around NullTuples May 2023 #28
Separate but equal? Segregation? Lunabell May 2023 #34
Or maybe men could stop being creeps Sky Jewels May 2023 #37
Well while that's true.... edisdead May 2023 #53
The fact they were suspended for starting a petition to make a change TheRealNorth May 2023 #6
bingo dembotoz May 2023 #10
I Don't See Anything In That Story,... ruet May 2023 #13
The Track Team Pushed Back And Created A Petition To Gain Public Support" sl8 May 2023 #23
My apologies for the website; when I posted it was all on a single page, not a slideshow. NullTuples May 2023 #29
Not your fault. sl8 May 2023 #48
According to the athletic director... Dr. Strange May 2023 #46
THIS malaise May 2023 #51
Fuckhead men suppressing girls because they are turned on. It's the men who should be suspended. lark2 May 2023 #8
Seems a woman in this case was being sexist. LiberalFighter May 2023 #9
A BIG, FAT K&R! CaliforniaPeggy May 2023 #11
The school is doing this because they can. Grins May 2023 #12
It's bigger than that MurrayDelph May 2023 #52
Sick, sick, sick! Baitball Blogger May 2023 #18
Hire coaches who can handle it. eShirl May 2023 #19
Someone needs to invent a "running top" that looks exactly like a sports bra but is called a "top" Hassin Bin Sober May 2023 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author MineralMan May 2023 #21
Meanwhile, the entire boy's track team submitted their own petition, MineralMan May 2023 #22
Sports bras just like bikini swim tops. scarletlib May 2023 #25
What is it that the track and field women wear in the Olympics? roamer65 May 2023 #26
From the link: BeckyDem May 2023 #27
Well, if the story had been more upfront you'd know that by July 2022, the issue had been resolved onenote May 2023 #42
I saw the update another poster added before you added yours....thank you. BeckyDem May 2023 #44
This happened over a year ago Ex Lurker May 2023 #30
The dress code was changed--after three appeals. Dr. Strange May 2023 #33
Great news...thanks. n/t BeckyDem May 2023 #35
If I were a man, i would be insulted to have it assumed... 3catwoman3 May 2023 #31
They're not sports bras, they're sports tops for women... Chakaconcarne May 2023 #32
Way to make girls feel bad about their bodies and intheflow May 2023 #36
I wish stories like this would give dates.This happened a year ago and was resolved two months later onenote May 2023 #40
Thanks, I thought that was weird since it seems that's pretty much what most BlackSkimmer May 2023 #50
Distracting? ProfessorGAC May 2023 #41
Weird. Female athletes routinely race in just sports bra and shorts these days. BlackSkimmer May 2023 #49
Absurd, as it has become commonplace for female athletes radius777 May 2023 #54

Response to marble falls (Reply #1)

TheRealNorth

(9,474 posts)
7. That's what I was expecting....
Fri May 19, 2023, 02:50 PM
May 2023

That it was conservative mothers/older women that want to shield their little Johnny from, "temptation".

Mister Ed

(5,926 posts)
15. I can read. Here's what I read:
Fri May 19, 2023, 03:00 PM
May 2023
...the girls team was not permitted to practice in their sports bras. They were told that was because they had male coaches and the bras were distracting."

Probatim

(2,513 posts)
3. If your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out.
Fri May 19, 2023, 02:42 PM
May 2023

I think someone famous said that once. Can't recall the guy's name, but he's pretty well-liked.

Sky Jewels

(7,048 posts)
37. Or maybe men could stop being creeps
Fri May 19, 2023, 04:05 PM
May 2023

Last edited Fri May 19, 2023, 04:43 PM - Edit history (1)

and start treating women as human beings.

edisdead

(1,912 posts)
53. Well while that's true....
Fri May 19, 2023, 11:07 PM
May 2023

Well while that’s true, and in this article it says the male coaches were distracted, Safe Sport training doesn’t focus on just watching out for male coaches. The reality is that anyone coaching could be a problem and all coaches as Mandatory Reporters need to be on the watch for the sexualization of athletes (notice the non-gender noun there)


This article really disturbs me because what it does is it actually excuses that sexualization of children. Ralk about fucked up. These people are furthering the exact thing they think they are trying to prevent and doing it in a completely fucked up way.

TheRealNorth

(9,474 posts)
6. The fact they were suspended for starting a petition to make a change
Fri May 19, 2023, 02:48 PM
May 2023

Is what is really disturbing to me. It's not like they broke the rules, they were trying to change the rules. But I guess we now punish any sort of civic engagement we don't like now.

ruet

(10,038 posts)
13. I Don't See Anything In That Story,...
Fri May 19, 2023, 02:58 PM
May 2023

other than the title, thats says anything about a petition. Do you? "Petition" has a very specific meaning in regard to this situation. If they were actually suspended for petitioning they would probably have a solid 1A case against the school.

sl8

(13,702 posts)
23. The Track Team Pushed Back And Created A Petition To Gain Public Support"
Fri May 19, 2023, 03:22 PM
May 2023
The Track Team Pushed Back And Created A Petition To Gain Public Support

A sophomore sprinter from the girl’s Albany High track team named Jordan Johnson created the team’s protest on the popular petition website Change.org.



There's more in the article, but the website is a royal pain in the ass to navigate.

lark2

(119 posts)
8. Fuckhead men suppressing girls because they are turned on. It's the men who should be suspended.
Fri May 19, 2023, 02:53 PM
May 2023

The coaches are obviously assholes and total jerks. The kids should go to another school is possible!

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,560 posts)
11. A BIG, FAT K&R!
Fri May 19, 2023, 02:55 PM
May 2023

This really pisses me off.

When can we expect the MEN to control themselves, instead of putting the blame on the women?

MY GOD.

Grins

(7,203 posts)
12. The school is doing this because they can.
Fri May 19, 2023, 02:56 PM
May 2023

A non-student female jogging on the sidewalk in front of that same school wearing a sports bra - it’s NBD. And legal.
The school and the town wouldn’t say a word.

But because it is a school with captive inmates…!

MurrayDelph

(5,293 posts)
52. It's bigger than that
Fri May 19, 2023, 10:57 PM
May 2023

In New York State, women are allowed to be topless anywhere men are. Spurts brad are much less of an extreme (and not practical in this circumstance)

Response to NullTuples (Original post)

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
22. Meanwhile, the entire boy's track team submitted their own petition,
Fri May 19, 2023, 03:18 PM
May 2023

stating that they wanted the girls to continue wearing those sports bras. "It inspires us," a boy's team spokeskid said.

scarletlib

(3,410 posts)
25. Sports bras just like bikini swim tops.
Fri May 19, 2023, 03:26 PM
May 2023

Most have way more coverage than any bikini top. Men and boys need to grow up and quit slavering over girls doing athletics in sports bras

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
26. What is it that the track and field women wear in the Olympics?
Fri May 19, 2023, 03:32 PM
May 2023

Just let them wear similar.

Seriously????? Suspension?????

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
27. From the link:
Fri May 19, 2023, 03:36 PM
May 2023

( The campaign racked up tens of thousands of signatures )




I hope these wonderful young women feel validated that so many recognize the sexism attributed to them for nothing more than wearing a sports bra.


K&R

It is 2023!!!!!!!!!!! Although you would not know it reading this crap.

onenote

(42,660 posts)
42. Well, if the story had been more upfront you'd know that by July 2022, the issue had been resolved
Fri May 19, 2023, 04:16 PM
May 2023

No excuse for the suspensions, but the fact is that the suspensions, handed down in May 2022, were rescinded a month later and a new dress code allowing athletes to wear sports bras was adopted a few weeks after that.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
44. I saw the update another poster added before you added yours....thank you.
Fri May 19, 2023, 04:20 PM
May 2023

That it happened at all is infuriating.

Ex Lurker

(3,812 posts)
30. This happened over a year ago
Fri May 19, 2023, 03:40 PM
May 2023

Multiple stories on it on Google from last spring and summer. I don't know how it was resolved, or why it's coming up again, but it's old news.

Dr. Strange

(25,917 posts)
33. The dress code was changed--after three appeals.
Fri May 19, 2023, 03:47 PM
May 2023
https://www.edweek.org/leadership/how-athletes-suspended-for-wearing-sports-bras-to-practice-changed-the-dress-code/2023/03

The athletic director tried to blame the male coaches, but it looks like she was full of shit. She made the call but wouldn't own it.

3catwoman3

(23,965 posts)
31. If I were a man, i would be insulted to have it assumed...
Fri May 19, 2023, 03:43 PM
May 2023

…that I could not control myself because of my anatomy.

intheflow

(28,451 posts)
36. Way to make girls feel bad about their bodies and
Fri May 19, 2023, 04:01 PM
May 2023

while at the same time make them think all the male coaches are pervs. Meanwhile, this woman is the thought police, assuming the male coaches won’t be able to restrain their drool and bulging pants. This woman admin is completely fucked up and shouldn’t be involved with public education. I hope the school gets sued and her ass gets fired.

onenote

(42,660 posts)
40. I wish stories like this would give dates.This happened a year ago and was resolved two months later
Fri May 19, 2023, 04:13 PM
May 2023

The suspension should never have happened but a story dated 5/13/23 that describes the situation in the present tense is somewhat misleading. The suspension was meted out in May 2022 and was rescinded in June and a new dress code allowing athletes to train wearing sports bras was adopted in July 2022.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
50. Thanks, I thought that was weird since it seems that's pretty much what most
Fri May 19, 2023, 06:32 PM
May 2023

female track athletes wear nowadays.

ProfessorGAC

(64,951 posts)
41. Distracting?
Fri May 19, 2023, 04:16 PM
May 2023

I think those coaches are looking at the wrong things.
They're supposed to be looking at technique & EVENT form, not the female form.
If they're that easily distracted, they need better coaches.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
49. Weird. Female athletes routinely race in just sports bra and shorts these days.
Fri May 19, 2023, 06:31 PM
May 2023

Look at the Olympics.

I don't get it.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
54. Absurd, as it has become commonplace for female athletes
Fri May 19, 2023, 11:29 PM
May 2023

to wear sports bras in many sports and athletic competitions - as others have referenced above.

Also note in this story a female athletic director is the one who made this call based upon her own outdated assumptions - namely that the girls would wear overly revealing tops and that the male coaches would be affected by this.

The sports bras are not revealing, more utilitarian, and male coaches who are professionals would not leer or be affected in any way.

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