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(7,876 posts)North Carolina to pick up some House and Senate seats, the Dems might get more ideals.
Senator Warren, dont be Ralph Nader or Susan Sarandon.
ProfessorGAC
(65,213 posts)I don't like the economy being held hostage, no matter who is doing it.
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Cha
(297,733 posts)walkingman
(7,669 posts)Beautiful Disaster
(667 posts)Biden had no intention of extending the forgiveness, hence why he was going to let it lapse in September (or August) anyway. Biden made that clear when he announced his forgiveness plan.
walkingman
(7,669 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,660 posts)For her these program cuts/caps are deal breakers.
Others can swallow the bitter pill, knowing there are other benefits gained from passing the bill.
walkingman
(7,669 posts)Cha
(297,733 posts)those of us who get SS to LIVE NOT to GET OUR MONEY.. That We've Earned through a Life Time of Working?
walkingman
(7,669 posts)There is no reason to cave to the GOP simply because they are irresponsible.
Cha
(297,733 posts)a good deal and Warren is Wrong.
mahina
(17,705 posts)And the other progressives are too. My best ti leaf reading.
Demsrule86
(68,696 posts)choice in 20. I like her but you have to be able to look at the big picture and compromise in governing.
edisdead
(1,957 posts)Hope you have a large savings and no bills. Good luck!
walkingman
(7,669 posts)negotiate with terrorists.
edisdead
(1,957 posts)Skittles
(153,202 posts)no indeed
Cha
(297,733 posts)the House in 2024.
In the meantime.. Thank you Pres Biden.. I don't want to be kicked out in the Street bc I and Millions don't have our Social Security Checks each month. And, the Economy gets Blown UP.
mvd
(65,180 posts)My moms whole income is SS. I am an admirer of Warrens but I dont see any other options now to avoid default.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,480 posts)Because of the damn republicans extorting our country and he lets them fuck us disabled and poor people over to appease monsters I will be unable to forgive Biden for it. I will still vote for him to stop the fascist pig republicans,but it will become a hold your nose and vote situation.
Elessar Zappa
(14,077 posts)Biden wouldnt let that happen.
GoodRaisin
(8,930 posts)No need for anyone to take victory laps, other than avoid the default.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,071 posts)If shes a no they must have some Republicans to offset.
EarnestPutz
(2,123 posts).....pushing back on the worst aspects of this bill.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)She's a foil here.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,660 posts)The narrative is if Warren is against it, then I (GOP senator) can vote for it and take less political damage
This is politics theatre, folks.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)with
And the grown-ups in the room are the ones who have to make hard choices. while the not-grown-ups keep having tantrums that hurt people across this country."
Fiendish Thingy
(15,660 posts)bottomofthehill
(8,348 posts)Not one of the grown ups in the room. Her inability to vote yes for the best deal they can get passed?
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)her explaining the HUGE need to pass this agreement.
* Statement of strong factional/ideological disapproval for the headline.
* Explanation of need to vote for it anyway.
* Reassurance that we're the grownups able to make hard choices and do what needs to be.
This is a very common pattern.
yardwork
(61,712 posts)Cha
(297,733 posts)food out of Poor People mouths is going into Default and not getting our SS Checks and Blowing up the Fucking Economy.
She better Not cause that to happen. From what I've read that's NOT what's happening with the deal.
Cha
(297,733 posts)impressed.
BlueTsunami2018
(3,503 posts)Same thing with the Republicans screeching. The votes are there so some people can stand on principle.
honest.abe
(8,685 posts)There will be plenty of yay votes for this coming from both sides.
sprinkleeninow
(20,267 posts)TomSlick
(11,110 posts)If the Democrats do not support this deal, they will be responsible for the economic collapse and SS retirees and military retirees not getting their necessary payments.
I hope she is posturing.
NowISeetheLight
(3,943 posts)The whole MagaT Freedom Caucus will vote against it
I'm hopeful there won't be a lot of Democrats voting against it. The reality is I think this will pass. Not appearing too "extreme" and "fringe" in the vote is some Democrats can use in the next election. Republicans want to crash the economy. They'll fail. But let them go on the record trying. Don't join them.
Mark.b2
(261 posts)But, if they needed her vote for it to pass, she'd fall in line faster than a Baptist at a church potluck. I don't find that position all that unreasonable, actually.
Anyway, this will give her a couple days to scold some folks. There's no one better at it!
doc03
(35,382 posts)us hostage and willing to crash the economy and I read here she is a no vote.
Seasider
(169 posts)I dont like the cuts either but the U.S going into default will be much worse.
Cha
(297,733 posts)edisdead
(1,957 posts)Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)If the GOP manages to sabotage this and it goes down in the House, the entire blame is on the GOP.
She is decent at running for Senate in a solidly blue state. She isn't good for national politics.
Elessar Zappa
(14,077 posts)I also understand that this was the best we could hope for in a Republican-controlled House.