Legal Twitter: Trump will be ordered HELD without bail, i.e., imprisoned, Tuesday afternoon!

[NewsCenter28]

So, legal twitter says, due to the seriousness of the charges, that it is highly likely that the GA campaign event that Trump held on Saturday is his last ever political event.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

There are other tweets echoing the above.

Due to the flight risk and the incredibly serious nature of the charges, it is expected that Trump will be immediately imprisoned on Tuesday afternoon at his arraingment. In short, and I don't think the magnitude of this can be overstated, by Tuesday at 5, Trump is done and out of our lives forever!!

Also, my apologies for my initial reaction to the Cannon draw. It was most unfortunate. I suspect you will see her be a completely different and fair presider over this arraingment and upcoming trial, after learning from how hard she was slapped down by the 11th circuit during the special master proceedings.

[dem4decades]

1. In my dreams.

[SallyHemmings]

2. And mine

[DENVERPOPS]

35. In the real and fair world YESSSSSS

But we are living in an *Alice In Wonderland* world, where reason and rational thought are turned completely upside down....

[AZ8theist]

52. WITH LOOSE CANNON AS THE JUDGE????

I'd be SHOCKED if she doesn't offer to drive him back to Merde Lardo HERSELF......

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

95. That meme is ignorant

Treason applies during war. We weren't in an actual war with anyone.

The charge he would be guilty of is sedition.

Not sure how many times that has to be spelled out.

[AZ8theist]

108. Not necessarily

Supplying foreign entities with National Security secrets is the definition of providing "aid and comfort".

While "treason" can be used colloquially, espionage may be better suited.
The Rosenburgs were executed in 1951 for supplying the Soviets with top secret information. We weren't at "war" with the USSR at the time either.

If you think Dump has not harmed our national security profoundly, well then semantics are a waste of time.
I think Dump committed treason against the United States no matter what the formal definition is.

[PatrickforB]

63. This reminds me of something:

When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead,
And the white knight is talking backwards,
And the red queen's off with her head,
Remember what the door mouse said.

Feed your head.
Feed your head.

We've been living in a surreal world whose downfall began in November 1963. The corporate plan to take over our republic was penned into existence by Lewis Powell in 1971, and Ronald Reagan ensured its success in 1987 when he killed the Fairness Doctrine at the behest of Don Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney.

Trump is nothing but a cheap con-man. He will likely be imprisoned at least for a short time. There may be acts of domestic terror by his Nazi-vangelical (or perhaps Christofascist) followers. But if we want to save the republic for another century or two, it will be a long uphill climb for the Millennials and GenZ.

For me, I'm TIRED of 'alternative truth' and our weak-kneed corporate owned media's 'both-sider-ism,' when we all know the truth.

[Bristlecone]

57. Right there with you

[Dorian Gray]

103. While I would love for that to happen

I don't think it will. And those twitter accounts aren't legal experts, so I would take it with a GIANT GRAIN OF SALT.

[hlthe2b]

3. I want some of what he/she is smoking. It would be so in a truly equal justice world, but... alas

[Dave in VA]

17. You took the words

right off my keyboard!

[brewens]

21. Had to be at least shrooms. LOL n/t

[rubbersole]

50. I was thinking THC gummies.

(My favorite)

[brewens]

60. I make my own edibles. Do you like to bake? Even if you don't, making way better for

a fraction of the cost is a joke.


Offhand, I'd say 1/4 of an ounce of mediocre weed gets you about what you'd pay for $70 bucks worth of edibles from a weed shop. Numerous people agree that one of my cupcakes is equal to three gummies or candies. The 10mg edibles. I get ounces of my edible weed for under $40. I have a mad scientist grower buddy that gave me some high CBD weed even. I honestly couldn't tell the difference. I hoped to.

I'll replay with my cannabutter recipe link if anyone wants.

[rubbersole]

64. I've made brownies that got rave reviews...

The 5mg gummies (perfect amount for me) are 20 for $30 at the dispensary here in East Central Florida. Convenient. Flowers at the store are fairly expensive.

[brewens]

66. I get $35 to $45 ounces at my shop for edibles. I also get 1/8 ounces in that range to smoke.

The cheap weed makes great edibles I promise, if you can get ounces in that range.

[rubbersole]

69. I shop at Suterra.

Nothing is inexpensive. Haven't seen ounces. But we're still medical marijuana only in desantistand.

[brewens]

77. I'm in Idaho but maybe three miles from my favorite shop across the WA border. In my circumstances

It would be almost impossible to get busted even though we're a Nazi state. I almost never even drive. I'm luckier than most. I will say that in my town, the cops are known to mostly just confiscate weed if nothing else is going on. You wouldn't expect that, but our cops are not assholes around here. It is mostly white guys around here like me though, so who knows what it could be like otherwise. We could have as many Oaf Creepers on the force as anywhere and I'd never know it. Old white guy privilege you know.

[dalton99a]

4. Of course he should

until reality intervenes

[triron]

5. Should be but I don't believe.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

6. "Expected" by whom?

Nice thought, but all I see is a bunch of people hoping.

Have any legal experts come out and said they actually expect him to be held without bail?

[calguy]

7. Who comes up with these fantasies?

Ok, surprise me. I'll do 100 push ups, live on twitter if that happens.

[demmiblue]

8. Yeah, that's not gonna happen. n/t

[dweller]

9. Bookmarking

Guess we’ll see …



✌🏻

[ITAL]

10. Should he be? Absolutely

But there is no way that happens. None. There's a greater chance of the Yellowstone Caldera exploding before Tuesday than that.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

37. Espionage Act...what did he do exactly?? Judge will hear. We will hear of his second time

felony accusations…it’s serious…even the monsters fear the Law…the Law is US!

[Autumn]

11. Tuesday he will be released. No bail released on his own reconnaissance, and the following

week it will be another fucking rally with his trashing and threatening the Dems, our government institutions, American citizens and on and on it will go. He's never going to stop. The media and politicians will continue to pretend he is normal.

[Frasier Balzov]

12. The Secret Service would strenuously object.

It is doubtful that the Secret Service would even be okay with imprisonment if found guilty.

[intrepidity]

23. I mean, I don't think it's up to them

Like, what if it was a murder charge?

[drray23]

44. I dont think your understand what the secret service does

they are not personal bodyguards for Trump. If there is a legal judgment, they will of course abide by the law.

[Frasier Balzov]

62. Perhaps I overestimate their authority?

If the Secret Service can prohibit putting handcuffs on him and can override his own decision to travel to the Capitol to be with his followers, they would appear to be the final authority.

"We can't protect him in a prison facility" is all I would expect them to need to say in order to preclude that situation.

Unless Congress authorizes a prison division to be operated by the Secret Service itself rather than the Bureau of Prisons.

[DENVERPOPS]

89. Sure they can

revolving shifts, sitting out side of his Super Max Cell...........

[ProfessorGAC]

13. Probability Of This Happening...

...is rapidly approaching zero.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

33. Already on bail for one felony indictment now another even more serious.

And recall the gag order…recall the threats to Jack Smith and wife…recall the law of judicial interim release and here is high probability the multiple indictment accused not get release.

Recall all equal in eyes of the Law, the Law has no higher standard for monsters and ex Presidents.

[ProfessorGAC]

34. You're Right

He still isn't getting put in the slammer with no bail.
His presidency was a fluke, and an abject failure but he's still an ex-prez.
Different rules, I guess.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

36. Certainly not a certainty of no bail. Maybe next round of indictments?? Georgia..

Judge..wtf, third round of indictments…national security…election tampering…

No bail! No key to the kingdom!

[ProfessorGAC]

39. I Did Say "Approaching Zero"

Not impossible. Just massively improbable.

[H2O Man]

53. In my opinion,

it isn't high enough to rate a zero yet. Perhaps in the future.

We know his position plays a role. No doubt. And we know that anyone else would be in the slammer. Yet there is another factor -- he is not likely to go on the run, couldn't hide if he wanted to, and will show up for future court hearings. In time, if he keeps running his mouth and advocating violence, then he will be jailed.

[ProfessorGAC]

61. Good Points

Not being a flight risk is a big factor, indeed.

[H2O Man]

83. The defendent

is only beginning to recognize that he is in serious trouble. Up until now, I agree with Maya Wiley and others that he has been his own worst enemy. But Mr. Smith has become an even more dangerous opponent. Hence, the door has closed as far as an opportunity to take flight.

[Mr.Bill]

70. I'll tell you what is a 100% certainty.

If he was selling top secret documents and still has some (and it's easy to believe he does), he will continue to sell them.

[H2O Man]

82. I agree.

I would think that it is possible, for example, that Don Jr and/or Eric have some, or possibly copies. I do not think the threat posed by the defendent's criminal actionsis gone in the context of the documents. And I think he continues to pose a very real threat in other ways.

[brooklynite]

88. He is NOT "on bail"

He was merely told to show up for his trial.

[moonscape]

97. Passed zero a while back.

[LuckyCharms]

14. Don't threaten me with a good time.

[WheelWalker]

15. Well, those twits certainly suffer from no poverty of imagination. I dare say.

[ZonkerHarris]

16. Legal Twitter is on drugs

[Shanti Shanti Shanti]

18. Dear Mister Fantasy, play us a tune, something to make us all happy, lol

[MyOwnPeace]

67. Shanti - 'EXTRA CREDIT' for a 'rock classic' reference!

SO many groups covered it (I was into the Al Kooper/Mike Bloomfield one) - but DAYUM - you nailed it!!!

[Shanti Shanti Shanti]

71. Th th thankyouverymuch

[uponit7771]

86. +1,

[chicoescuela]

19. There will be zero point zero bail

[obnoxiousdrunk]

20. Nonsense.

[Novara]

22. With Cannon as the indictment judge?????

Wow, I want some of what that that guy is smoking.

[LymphocyteLover]

42. exactly

[onenote]

91. The arraignment and bond hearing will be handled by a magistrate judge, not Cannon.

As is often the case, folks are making assumptions without knowing the process actually followed.


But, truth be told, the likelihood of him being held without bail, or even having bail set, is near zero.

[PortTack]

24. Doubt it..but his aide that helped him wasn't immediately bailed out. So by rights he should go to

Jail.

[Chainfire]

25. Someone doesn't understand how the world works.

[Happy Hoosier]

26. Lovely thought...

But no way “Loose” Cannon does it. No chance.

[Richard D]

27. Not with justice connor

I can't see it. I'd love it to happen and despite not being a drinker, I'd down a bottle of champaign, but I have no hopes of that.

[Demobrat]

28. Well that was a cheap thrill.

For a second after reading the headline I believed it.

[Traildogbob]

29. He will be

Sentences to write on a chalk board 100 times, “I will not steal secret documents”. Then allowed to be reappointed to President by GQP legislatures.
But if he misspells one word once, life in solidarity.
I say no execution for espionage, make him sweat out every single day with stale white bread, (non of that racist dark stuff) Flint water, and Ivanka’s wonderful beans (Black ones) by Goya. No cake, no berders, no ice cream. Maybe room temp sour cream, I mean we are not animals on the left.

[kimbutgar]

30. Oh please please please let it be so!

[CaptainTruth]

31. I'm not a Danny Downer, but I say no way. Not gonna happen.

I am, however, willing to be wrong.

[SledDriver]

32. Tired of waiting for the hamerders to do him in

Having to sit in a cell awaiting trial without having an adoring crowd fawning and cheering him at his rallies would be absolute TORTURE to someone with his narcissistic disorder. Good. I hope he is and it DESTROYS whatever is left of his mind, leaving him a drooling shell curled up in the corner in a fetal position in a puddle of his own filth mumbling "but her emails..."

Of course we all know he's gonna be ROR'd, free to golf and hold his rallies where he'll start calling for assassinations with the promise of pardons when he gets re-elected, while the trial date is pushed back to AFTER the GQP primaries.

[BlackSkimmer]

38. "Legal twitter"???

[LymphocyteLover]

43. it's basically the same legal pundits they have on CNN and MSNBC

who tweet most of the same stuff they say on TV

[LymphocyteLover]

40. if Eileen Cannon is the judge, no freaking way

[Lucky Luciano]

41. Definitely not getting my hopes up...

…but I will truly be happy for the first time with this whole saga.

[More_Cowbell]

45. No way that happens

It *should* happen. It would happen to anyone else. But jailing Trump and, by necessity, his Secret Service detail is just not happening at this preliminary stage. I don't think it will happen even after he's convicted.

My best hope is after conviction, permanent house arrest somewhere with no internet access for him.

[Mr. Evil]

46. I'll wait for the convictions.

From the White House to the big house. For everything there is a first time.

[Takket]

47. those tweets do NOT say he will be held without bail

your OP is very misleading

[onenote]

92. +100

[onenote]

48. Someone should explain to the OP the difference between "MAY" and "WILL"

The two tweets highlighted in the OP are unrealistically optimistic to the extent they suggest it is even likely that Trump would be held without bail. The OP's statement that he "will" be held without bail is downright delusional.

[shanti]

100. Right?

All I saw is 'should, may, and might'.

[JustAnotherGen]

49. How will the handle

His Secret Service detail?

[brooklynite]

51. TWO opinions does not constitute "legal Twitter"

I’ll stick with my wife’s analysis.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217995084

[COL Mustard]

54. I'll believe it when it happens

I really don’t see him ever being in jail. The logistics are just too complicated.

[reACTIONary]

55. Not a chance nt

[niyad]

56. Not holding my breath.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

58. I don't expect jailing from Cannon

I think she will try to fly straight without getting hammered by the 11th Circuit again for egregious decisions.

However, ... she will bend stuff. Like bail vs jailing. She'll go for bail. She could take his jet as surety, which would be great, but I doubt she will do even that.

[brooklynite]

65. And I don't believe Smith will ask for it.

Outside of the blogosphere. I don’t think any legal experts imagine he’s a flight risk.

[bluestarone]

78. That's what i was wondering.

Would Smith even ask for it. (i doubt it)

[spanone]

59. I truly doubt it.

[Warpy]

68. I think he'll be on house arrest at MaraLardo

I can think of few worse fates than being trapped in Florida in the summer. There won't be any conflict with city ordinances, the club will be closed since all the money goes up north for the summer.

I don't think they'll toss him in the clink, that would draw every nut job in Florida out and you know all the nuts roll down to Florida.

[Oppaloopa]

72. I will be singing Etta James's At Last really loud

[TeamProg]

73. God, please! I've never asked you for anything, ever! If you EXIST, GOD, show yourself and your good

work !!

[republianmushroom]

74. Bet he walks out of that court room tuesday with just a few million bond.

Prison time, for trump.

[onenote]

93. Bet he walks out released on his own recognizance.

[Orrex]

104. Bet he walks out a few million $ richer

As his KKKultists open their wallets for his legal defense fund.

[onenote]

105. That too.

[LudwigPastorius]

75. _

[Orrex]

76. Incommunicado, please.

The last thing we need is a jailhouse martyr rallying his KKKult.

[NowsTheTime]

79. Just keep hitting him with indictments every few weeks....it's a better way

[helpisontheway]

80. I wish but not gonna happen..Nt

[Kennah]

81. Should he and will he are two different things

He should, but he won't

[Marius25]

84. Where do they all get this from?

Trump is not treated like other defendants, and he has a very favorable judge.

[lees1975]

85. Oh, I so hate to think otherwise...

I hate to think otherwise, I hate to think otherwise, I hate to think otherwise..........

Please be right!

[BootinUp]

87. From what I understand about the complications when dealing with

top secret documents it could be a long time before this trial even gets started. I am going to guess that he will be allowed to post a bond.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

98. Not true

Barring delay motions, federal law requires holding the trial within 70 days of a subject being indicted.

I expect the Tangerine Toddler to try every delay tactic imaginable, but, anytime those delays get cleared up (and they probably will be in the fed's favor, and on an expedited schedule), the clock again sets to 70 days.

There's only so much road for delays, and this dirtbag is running out of it, fast. He got some of it knocked down through his own stupidity with this and other cases, like executive privilege and warrant/seizure challenges. Everyone who was complaining about what's taking so loooooonnnnnnggg?

Guess what--That means Smith had the fat nitwit using up many of those delay tactics *before* the indictment, rather than after. That's something nobody saw coming--that a prosecutor would use TFG's own tactics against him. His job as a prosecutor is now a whole lot easier because TFG used up much of his best strategy early, while Smith kept chugging along with gathering more evidence--and got more time to select and word his charges to take advantage of what he saw from what the idiot showed from his hand.

Smith has played him masterfully.

That's why I predict we'll get to trial before the year is out.

[WarGamer]

90. If "Geology Twitter" was anything like "Legal Twitter"...

They'd be posting pics from the edge of the flat Earth watching objects fall off the edge.

[BlackSkimmer]

102. Lol.

"legal twitter" just makes me giggle.

[onenote]

94. For those predicting what Cannon will do. She probably won't even be there.

The arraignment and decision on release pending trial likely will be made by magistrate judge, as is typically the case.

[Xolodno]

96. Crack is one hell of a drug (n/t)

[Azathoth]

99. "Should" and "will" are very different words nt

[Old Crank]

101. Fox news cut him off because

The 800 million award and they are looking at another billion lawsuit.
Nothing sharpens their focus like massive damages. Plus share holders are suing because of their past lies.

[ecstatic]

106. That would be awesome but boy would there be fireworks!

qOP whining would reach a fever pitch.

[BlackSkimmer]

107. Looks like "legal twitter" needs to head back to law school.

[ProfessorGAC]

109. Big Oops!

It was ridiculous from the start.
Today's events made it moreso.