Mother's Boy literally admits that he ran his mouth before reading the indictment

[malaise]

because he has now changed his tune

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4048706-pence-says-he-cant-defend-allegations-in-trump-indictment/

Former Vice President Mike Pence on Tuesday said he could not defend the “very serious” allegations against former President Donald Trump in a federal indictment over the handling of classified documents.
“Having read the indictment, these are very serious allegations. And I can’t defend what is alleged,” Pence said in an interview with The Wall Street Journal editorial board. “But the President is entitled to his day in court, he’s entitled to bring a defense, and I want to reserve judgment until he has the opportunity to respond.”

——-
What a desperate theocratic creep.

[Tetrachloride]

1. "reserve judgement" says the front row witness

[malaise]

2. Reserve judgement for a man who wanted him hanged

A self-loathing theocratic creep.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

13. +1

[Gidney N Cloyd]

3. These kind of turnabouts (like Nikki Haley, too) are where the real story is today.

The ground is shifting and the players are trying to wind up in the best positions.

[BlueCheeseAgain]

9. What did Haley say today? Thanks.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

14. Good question

[Gidney N Cloyd]

22. Here's a brief USA Today piece. For her it's a bigger pivot than it may sound.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/06/12/haley-pivots-on-trump-post-indictment/70315150007/

Republican presidential hopeful Nikki Haley changed her tune on former President Donald Trump's latest legal troubles after he was slapped with a federal indictment on 37 counts related to his handling of classified documents.

"If this indictment is true, President Trump was incredibly reckless with our national security," Haley said in an interview with Fox News on Tuesday.

That's a more critical tone than the former South Carolina governor took last week when news first broke of Trump's second indictment during the 2024 presidential contest.

(snip)

During the Tuesday interview, Haley mentioned that her husband, Michael Haley, serves in the U.S. armed forces and will begin a yearlong deployment in Africa this weekend.

"This puts all of our military men and women in danger, if you were going to talk about what our military is capable of or how we would go about invading or doing something with one of our enemies," she said.

[hay rick]

12. It's like watching kids at the playground...

on Bosu balancing pods trying to not be the first one to fall off.

[BumRushDaShow]

4. Pence is a lawyer

and actually practiced briefly, so he knows what the indictment document says.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

15. Epitome of politician. You should catch him on

CNBC when he's on. 1,000,000% different. Fake personified.

[BumRushDaShow]

17. I have seen plenty of him

and he is a fork-tongued christo-fascist who can "doublethink" with the best of them (thanks to his talk show stint).

[Laura PourMeADrink]

23. I'll have to look up a clip when I'm really depressed :). My big

thing is his phony "deer in headlights" dumb act he plays for interviews. He seems like a moron. Slow, seemingly thoughtful. And then to see him just rattle off opinions and facts on biz network. The difference is so startling.

[BumRushDaShow]

24. There are a couple out there who can cosplay like that

e.g., like Mitt Romney. In one setting, he'll actually display some modicum of sanity but in other settings, he'll go out in left field and right over the foul line.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

25. Agree. You made me think of how the catering staff

Recorded him talking to donors
Which really helped us. I have often wondered why no one does that with trump. I mean he's a million times more crazy.

[BumRushDaShow]

29. I expect some have

but they would need to have the right moment to reveal it.

He certainly makes himself available for it which is why we got to see this pic as an example of the "cosplay transformation" of Romney (from Dec. 2016, although taken by a reporter) -

[raising2moredems]

5. Mother read the charges

Told him what to say as she is just as delusional as he is re: thinking he can win a primary, much less an election. He'll need a job so mother is taking matters into her own hands cuz she ain't gonna get a job.

[KentuckyWoman]

6. The wind changed.

All of a sudden a bunch of Trump loyalists are singing a new tune.

[ShazzieB]

18. I've been hoping that would happen.

So glad it's started!

[hibbing]

7. Said in the voice of a glass of milk n/t

[NH Ethylene]

8. This is good. They all need to refute Trump.

The only way out of Trumpism is if the GOP 'leaders' stop kissing his ass and dare to support justice and democracy instead.

[JanLip]

10. Pence is just wishy washy

He’s gonna reserve judgement. What’s the hold the orange smirk has on these politicians I just don’t understand.

Jan

[Raftergirl]

11. I'm not even a lawyer and I could tell how bad these charges are from just reading the indictment.

Everything was very well spelled out. And this is likely only half the evidence which will be presented by the prosecution in court.

If you hear anyone arguing that it’s a nothingburger they have not read the indictment.

[calimary]

16. I read it slowly over two evenings. Made lots of notes.

The way it's worded is important. I found it very clear and and easy to understand. It was a timeline with details of alleged offenses, whe, where, quotes, and background. VERY simple explanations. I'm not a lawyer and it did not "talk over me." It's a very instructional read. If you haven't read it yet, you should. Do yourself a favor!

[usonian]

31. What the Trump indictment can teach us about good writing

https://www.wbur.org/cognoscenti/2023/06/13/trump-documents-indictment-florida-jane-rosenzweig
June 13, 2023
Jane Rosenzweig
Jane Rosenzweig is the director of the Harvard College Writing Center

Since the Department of Justice unsealed the indictment of former president Donald Trump last week, the pundits have been in overdrive assessing the contents -– the details, the charges, the chances of a conviction, and the implications for the 2024 election. As a writing instructor, I can’t help but think about the document itself, which is a surprisingly compelling read, especially for legal writing, a genre that’s primarily focused on laying out the facts.

While the facts detailed in the indictment would be shocking no matter how they were presented, special counsel Jack Smith and his team made some intentional writing choices that make this document — and therefore the case against Trump — especially effective.

I tell my students that when they admire a piece of writing, they should try to figure out what’s working so they can use those strategies in their own work. So what can we learn about good writing from the indictment? ...

The outcome of this case will, of course, depend on more than the strength of the writing in the indictment. But good writing matters, especially when you have a story to tell or an argument to make. In this case, the banal cadence of a standard legal document would not have been nearly as interesting or persuasive. In the age of ChatGPT, when formulaic writing will be ever easier to generate, those voices who can capture our attention and shape our understanding of the world will matter more than ever.

The article is short, to the point, and has a couple of specific examples.
Good writing!

[calimary]

33. Good find, usonian!

Thanks!

I liked it. I sent the link to our Indivisible Clackamas writing/editing team.

[malaise]

27. Ditto

[czarjak]

19. Can't defend the the indefensible guy you've defended before? Lord! Have F-N mercy.

[PufPuf23]

20. Only a matter of time before the GOP takes credit for the downfall of Trump and

blames the Democrats.

The GOP will say that the witnesses who testified were Republicans not Democrats.

Crazy World now.

Pence is as unauthentic as a human can be.

[GreenWave]

21. After the pathetic turnout many will change their tune.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

26. Like he doesn't know EXACTLY what trump was doing.

Can't picture trump always worrying that Mike would walk in the room

[live love laugh]

28. Tune in tomorrow for yet another reversal.

[MayReasonRule]

30. Pence Is A Fascist. Fascism Is Evil. Pence Is Evil. That Is All.

[GenThePerservering]

32. Lotta people saying

"Oops" - yeah, I guess so.

[Bucky]

34. Let's remember this is the guy who turned to Dan Quayle for wisdom in 2020

When he was (to his credit) troubled by Trump's suggestion that he use his ceremonial position to pervert the 2020 results and throw the country into a crisis to suit Trump's purposes, he turned to Dan Quayle to ask "Hey do you think I can do this?" and Mr Potatoe Head replied "No, Jesus Jr, you can't"

Mike Pence may be a little slow on the uptake, but he does keep on landing on the correct side of the law, even when he's being threatened with murder. Maybe that's setting the bar low for Republicans. But history itself is set the bar low for Republicans.

[Torchlight]

35. He's doing his level best to serve two masters

and winds up losing even more credibility from both of them.