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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGrover Norquist: Obama 'Has Never Sat Down And Civilly Talked To People Who Don't Agree With Him'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/12/grover-norquist-fiscal-cliff_n_2117860.htmlMy comments:
There gets to be a point where you realize that someone is not merely wrong, not misguided, not uneducated or ignorant, but simply outright DELUSIONAL. I am not a shrink, but I really wonder where Grover's head is at if he thinks he can write crazy things like this and have any credibility.
When Grover says a line like:
"He is not used to being in the room with people who dont say Yes sir, I agree with you on everything. Its not easy for him even if he wants to do it.
Considering that his advisers include such "passive" people like Rahm Emmanuel, Hillary Clinton, Van Jones, Joe Biden, we all know that no one has ever told him NO (sarcasm.) If anything, the thing that we liberals were angry about is that Obama surrounded himself with people who disagreed with him, AND THEN TOOK THEIRADVICE INSTEAD OF WHAT WE WANTED. We know that was how many ideas like single payer got forsaken.
When Grover says:
"The president was committed; elected on the basis that he was not Romney and Romney was a poopy head and you should vote against Romney and he won by two points," Norquist said on CBS' "This Morning" Monday. "But he didn't make the case that we should have higher taxes and higher spending, he kind of sounded like the opposite."
Poopy Head? Really Grover?, did your brain stop growing at 12? No, Obama did not make the case we should have higher taxes and spending, WE made that case, and he had to follow along after spending his first term thinking there was a way to appease you GOP bastards if we could only sit down and talk with you. You really do not seem to understand that we in America have grown disenchanted with the one percent. It might have been fine when there were jobs, when someone could work hard, save money, and do something with their lives, even follow the old "American dream" of a business, but you folk have not only fed on the sort of blue collar workers that used to carry your weapons into battle, you have not even acknowledged the grievance, as if God himself meant us to do nothing but be means to your ends. At least the old quasi aristocrats had to put on a good front, to pretend they cared about those below them. The modern, Ayn-Rand devotees you are an example of do not even act like they have ANY responsibility, not even for the obvious FAILURE to WIN after spending hundreds of millions of dollars.
If you were the business man you fashion yourself, you would realize that to the American business man, a "win" is NOT a subjective term. If a Millionaire spends money to get a result, they want THAT DAMN RESULT, exactly how they want it! Any trip to an expensive restaurant can tell you that, as these emperors and divas will gladly make a show of denying a tip, simply because their Creme Brulee was not up to some subjective standard that even an Angel could not cook. But this is where it gets good Grover, you see, as much as you are doing the song and dance on Fox, the Patricians know they did not get what they want, and they are looking for a scapegoat, and frankly, you look good for the part. If you think that they will show any loyalty and mercy, then finally, you might get a taste of what the rest of us have known for years.
No one wants to have spent half a billion dollars to hear that "your competition called your employee a poppy head." If you tried that in a real business, you would be tossed out like a fastball in a Yankees game.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)CakeGrrl
(10,611 posts)Maybe the less gullible can be de-programmed and brought back to reality.
marmar
(77,084 posts)nt
tridim
(45,358 posts)The dude is sick IMO.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)what an idiot
Grover should take as many small airplane rides he can get
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)daligirl519
(285 posts)Somebody get him on some psychotropics - STAT!
tularetom
(23,664 posts)It's hard to talk civilly with people who refuse to talk to you.
So maybe Grover is right although I don't know why Obama even bothers.
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)Kkkarl Turd-blossom, or maybe he could call ShrubCo to see what they think , Assholes that take their lead from assholes don't have civil conversations, they either have some leverage with you or they hate you, period .
BeyondGeography
(39,375 posts)He obviously doesn't know how absurd he sounds.
Larkspur
(12,804 posts)When Grover says a line like:
"He is not used to being in the room with people who dont say Yes sir, I agree with you on everything. Its not easy for him even if he wants to do it.
Grover means that he's not use to having a black President. Blacks are suppose to serve the superior race and class, that means people like Grover.
This is what Grover and his racist Tea Bagger cohorts really look like now
They gambled on defeating Pres. Obama using all forms of racist attacks and voter suppression tactics and THEY LOST! They can't stand losing to non-whites and women.
librechik
(30,674 posts)it's POOPY HEAD
jpak
(41,758 posts)douchebag
yup
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)well grover take your money and find a hole to live in cause your days are over as a "political consultant"
City Lights
(25,171 posts)So GFY.
LeftofObama
(4,243 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)libodem
(19,288 posts)lpbk2713
(42,760 posts)And why the hell did anyone ever listen to him in the first place?
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,184 posts)Seriously?
Blue Owl
(50,427 posts)n/t
Whovian
(2,866 posts)I would so like to kick that asshole's ass.
Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)applegrove
(118,696 posts)of a180% tell where the gop blame the democrats for something they are actually responsible for. Obama made a deal to expand Bush tax cuts and tried to make a deal with Boehner during the fiscal crisis. It has been the gop who would not give an inch.