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sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)
Thu Jun 15, 2023, 08:41 AM Jun 2023

Merck says it's being coerced into negotiating it's drug prices with Medicare. LOL



Translation: Corporation upset Medicare is eating it to their profits.


Snip< Lawsuit filed June 9th by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.
Merck doesn't have the right to sell it's drugs at the price Merck would prefer.


https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/column-merck-says-being-coerced-120009297.html
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Merck says it's being coerced into negotiating it's drug prices with Medicare. LOL (Original Post) sarcasmo Jun 2023 OP
Drug company coerced into treating people decently NewHendoLib Jun 2023 #1
I used to deliver for Pfizer back in the 90's, what a trip. sarcasmo Jun 2023 #2
I was a chemist, then a project manager. NewHendoLib Jun 2023 #4
Poor Big Pharma! raging moderate Jun 2023 #5
Big Pharma has negotiated with Big Private Insurance for a long time. spooky3 Jun 2023 #3
They also negotiate with the VA... Wounded Bear Jun 2023 #12
Drug companies are eating up our savings. Screw their profits Walleye Jun 2023 #6
Only in Americorp. Native Jun 2023 #7
Wonder how much their CEO is paid? Enoki33 Jun 2023 #8
Since you asked NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #15
Thanks. Obscene compensation. Enoki33 Jun 2023 #17
How tone deaf does one have to be to complain about something you're doing to the people when it is onecaliberal Jun 2023 #9
How tone deaf does one have to be to complain about something you're doing to the people when it is onecaliberal Jun 2023 #10
I'm being coerced into paying ten times the amount the same drugs cost in Europe. Midnight Writer Jun 2023 #11
Merck can sell any price it wants. KentuckyWoman Jun 2023 #13
Sorry NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #14
Sort of off topic gratuitous Jun 2023 #16

NewHendoLib

(60,018 posts)
1. Drug company coerced into treating people decently
Thu Jun 15, 2023, 08:43 AM
Jun 2023

I worked in Big Pharma for 25 years. Do I have stories....

spooky3

(34,469 posts)
3. Big Pharma has negotiated with Big Private Insurance for a long time.
Thu Jun 15, 2023, 08:44 AM
Jun 2023

It’s long past time for Medicare to be treated the same way.

NowISeetheLight

(3,943 posts)
15. Since you asked
Thu Jun 15, 2023, 04:18 PM
Jun 2023

Found online:

Merck's CEO is Rob Davis, appointed in Apr 2021, he has a tenure of 2.17 years. His total yearly compensation is $18.65M , comprised of 8.2% salary and 91.8% bonuses, including company stock and options. He directly owns 0.011% of the company's shares, worth $29.89M.

onecaliberal

(32,888 posts)
9. How tone deaf does one have to be to complain about something you're doing to the people when it is
Thu Jun 15, 2023, 10:41 AM
Jun 2023

being done to you?

onecaliberal

(32,888 posts)
10. How tone deaf does one have to be to complain about something you're doing to the people when it is
Thu Jun 15, 2023, 10:43 AM
Jun 2023

being done to you?

KentuckyWoman

(6,692 posts)
13. Merck can sell any price it wants.
Thu Jun 15, 2023, 04:01 PM
Jun 2023

No customer is required to pay it. Medicare is a customer. Besides, taxpayers already covered the full costs of R&D.

Merck has a choice. They have a choice. Drop prices in the US or give up the grants and write offs.

NowISeetheLight

(3,943 posts)
14. Sorry
Thu Jun 15, 2023, 04:17 PM
Jun 2023

They can afford it. Gouging US seniors and taxpayers has to end. Why are we stuck paying 5x and more for medications compared to other industrialized nations?

Cancer drug Keytruda is $12500 a month in the US and $3200 in the UK. Our corrupt greedy health system incentives profits over patients.

From Statista:

Top 20 profitable Merek drugs.

Drug. Revenue (In millions)
Keytruda 20,937
Gardasil 6,897
Lagevrio. 5,684
Januvia 2,813
ProQuad* 2,241
Janumet 1,700
Bridion 1,685
Lynparza (alliance revenue) 1,116
Lenvima (alliance revenue) 876
RotaTeq 783

From Statista:

"What was Mereks revenue last year?

The revenue of Merck & Co. increased in 2022, rising from 48.7 billion U.S. dollars in 2021 to approximately 59.3 billion U.S. dollars in 2022."


From Macrotrends:

"What is Merck's annual profit?

Merck net income for the twelve months ending March 31, 2023 was $13.030B, a 8.11% decline year-over-year. Merck annual net income for 2022 was $14.519B, a 11.27% increase from 2021. Merck annual net income for 2021 was $13.049B, a 84.65% increase from 2020.


From FiercePharma:

"Does pharma spend more on marketing than R&D? A numbers check?

For instance, Lowe found that Merck ($MRK) spends 27% of its revenue on SG&A and 17.3% on research and development. "

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
16. Sort of off topic
Thu Jun 15, 2023, 04:34 PM
Jun 2023

There was a report last night on NBC News about a promising new drug for glioblastomas (brain cancer). Two researchers combined a couple of readily-available pharmaceutical ingredients, one that targets cells that provide a host for cancer cells and one that targets the cells that feed the cancer-hosting cells. I didn't quite grasp all of it, and I may have completely butchered the real explanation with my thumbnail account above.

But as I watched the segment, I thought that someone's going to patent this and make a mint. Even though the research has been done by two guys and the ingredients for the vaccine (yes, it's a shot you get in your upper arm, just like a flu shot or a covid shot) have done all the work, some big company is going to swoop in and appropriate the vaccine for itself and charge patients (and their insurance companies) out the wazoo.

No, they didn't have to do any research or tests or trials, and the stuff that goes into the vaccine is cheap and readily available, but Merck or Pfizer or some other Big Pharma company will whine that they have to make a reasonable profit off of brain cancer patients because reasons. And no, the fact that the CEO got paid $53 million last year doesn't enter into this discussion at all, so stop talking about that!

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