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JPPaverage

(518 posts)
Wed Jun 21, 2023, 05:56 AM Jun 2023

Deafening silence from the nra

It is my understanding that Hunter Biden can no longer own firearms as a result of the charges against him. And from the nra...crickets.
Ja Morant, a (superb) NBA player just got a 25 game suspension for stupidity, er, flashing a gun in a video. As far as anyone knows, the gun(s) in question was legally obtained by Morant. And yet...silence from the nra.
Could it be that Biden is the son of the PotUS and that Morant is an African American? Could that be the reason the nra has said nothing publicly to support either man's "2nd amendment rights"?
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that if Don Jr. or a Caucasian basketball player had the same situation, the nra would be screaming like crazy. Just sayin'.

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Deafening silence from the nra (Original Post) JPPaverage Jun 2023 OP
Agreed BigOleDummy Jun 2023 #1
The Mulford Act HootieMcBoob Jun 2023 #2
The problem is a white guy will feel threatened and shoot a black person Bluethroughu Jun 2023 #3
Don't confuse racism with sociopolitical hate and bigotry. The Grand Illuminist Jun 2023 #7
You are 100% correct. The Jungle 1 Jun 2023 #5
Concealed carry proscriptions 100 years ago jimmy the one Jun 2023 #8
Yes HootieMcBoob Jun 2023 #13
Better yet, a campaign for Dems to buy guns. 3Hotdogs Jun 2023 #11
Better yet, a campaign for Dems to buy guns. 3Hotdogs Jun 2023 #14
I'll bet... 2naSalit Jun 2023 #4
The NRA fully exposed who they are in the Philando Castile Killing Best_man23 Jun 2023 #6
Hunter Biden is a convicted felon littlewolf Jun 2023 #9
BS. Any non-violent 1st time offender with a good lawyer would have gotten the same plea deal. FSogol Jun 2023 #10
How many people who lied on the paperwork got 10 years? Kaleva Jun 2023 #15
NRA was silent on police killing legally permitted Philando Castile IronLionZion Jun 2023 #12

HootieMcBoob

(3,823 posts)
2. The Mulford Act
Wed Jun 21, 2023, 07:57 AM
Jun 2023

Absolutely. Remember it was Ronald Reagan that signed into California law The Mulford Act that prohibited the public carrying of firearms. It was enacted to stop The Black Panthers from armed neighborhood patrols.

You want new gun laws? Start arming black people and Republicans will turn on a dime.

Bluethroughu

(5,219 posts)
3. The problem is a white guy will feel threatened and shoot a black person
Wed Jun 21, 2023, 08:05 AM
Jun 2023

For no reason, and the NRA will create a narritive that favors the murdering good white guy because that's what it really is about. White male supremacy.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
5. You are 100% correct.
Wed Jun 21, 2023, 08:19 AM
Jun 2023

I have been saying for a long time that we need arm all black people.

Black Panthers carrying guns shocked the nation. Having our black neighbors walk to the corner store with and AR would shock the nation again.

52 percent, 17 percent of mass shootings are done by white people. https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/

jimmy the one

(2,708 posts)
8. Concealed carry proscriptions 100 years ago
Wed Jun 21, 2023, 08:31 AM
Jun 2023

Hootie: The Mulford Act that prohibited the public carrying of firearms.

In 1967 as governor. Reagan also supported the 1981 Brady Bill (enacted 1993) and 'urged' the congress to pass it.

About a dozen state's constitutions had provisions to enable their state's legislatures to prohibit or proscribe carrying concealed weapons, dating back to the 1800's (Ironically, open carry was not proscribed, since others would be forewarned that gun carriers were about and revolvers were a far cry from today's rapid fire semi automatics. Today the situation is about reversed, argumentatively).
Note that all these states excepting new mexico, are today red states:

(Lousiana) 1879: "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be abridged. This shall not prevent the passage of laws to punish those who carry weapons concealed."

Louisiana (as late as 1974): The right of each citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be abridged, but this provision shall not prevent the passage of laws to prohibit the carrying of weapons concealed on the person. (1974).

Mississippi: 1817 thru 1890: The right .. shall not be called in question, but the legislature may regulate or forbid carrying concealed weapons

Missouri: 1875: "That the right .. but nothing herein contained is intended to justify the practice of wearing concealed weapons

Montana: 1889 The [rkba] right .. but nothing herein contained shall be held to permit the carrying of concealed weapons. .

New Mex: 1912: "The people have the right to bear arms for their security and defense, but nothing herein shall be held to permit the carrying of concealed weapons."

NCarolina: 1868: "A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; and, as...
1875: Same as 1868, but added "Nothing herein contained shall justify the practice of carrying concealed weapons, or prevent the Legislature from enacting penal statutes against said practice."

Oklahoma: 1907 The [rkba] right .. but nothing herein contained shall prevent the Legislature from regulating the carrying of weapons. 1907

Texas: 1836 thru 1868 .. the Legislature shall have power, by law, to regulate the wearing of arms, with a view to prevent crime.

Utah: 1896: .. the legislature may regulate the exercise of this right by law."

Florida: 1838: "That the free white men of this State shall have a right to keep and to bear arms for their common defence."
http://www2.law.ucla.edu/volokh/beararms/statecon.htm

3Hotdogs

(12,522 posts)
11. Better yet, a campaign for Dems to buy guns.
Wed Jun 21, 2023, 08:51 AM
Jun 2023

NRA will support it because it enriches their real bosses, gun manufacturers.


Maggots will go crazy.

3Hotdogs

(12,522 posts)
14. Better yet, a campaign for Dems to buy guns.
Wed Jun 21, 2023, 11:52 AM
Jun 2023

NRA will support it because it enriches their real bosses, gun manufacturers.


Maggots will go crazy.

Best_man23

(4,932 posts)
6. The NRA fully exposed who they are in the Philando Castile Killing
Wed Jun 21, 2023, 08:23 AM
Jun 2023

A black man with a legal conceal carry license is shot to death by the police because he just happen to have his legally purchased firearm on his person. Reason he was stopped was because he "fit the description" of a robbery suspect. Castile was shot to death seconds after informing the killer cop he had a firearm on his person.

Took the NRA two days to issue a milquetoast statement, saying: "Castile’s death was “troubling...”. As far as I know they never said another word publicly about this killing. This pretty much pulled back the NRA's cover; they are the defender of your gun rights ONLY IF you are Republicant and white (preferably male).

The original poster is correct, in this case had Philando Castile been white, the NRA would have screamed like crazy and would have issued multiple SM messages before the body was cold.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/20/philando-castile-shooting-nra-response-colion-noir#:~:text=Two%20days%20after%20Philando%20Castile,Rifle%20Association%20issued%20a%20statement.&text=Castile's%20death%20was%20%E2%80%9Ctroubling%E2%80%9D%2C,firearms%2C%20no%20matter%20their%20race.

littlewolf

(3,813 posts)
9. Hunter Biden is a convicted felon
Wed Jun 21, 2023, 08:37 AM
Jun 2023

he shouldn't have had a hand gun in the first place
he LIED on the paperwork to get the gun
that is a federal felony worth about 10 years
but it sure is nice to be the son of the president
everything gets dropped to misdomener
and he walks .... "guilty as sin and free as a bird."

FSogol

(45,631 posts)
10. BS. Any non-violent 1st time offender with a good lawyer would have gotten the same plea deal.
Wed Jun 21, 2023, 08:45 AM
Jun 2023

There is an advantage to pleading guilty.

Also, in your "free as a bird" statement, you forgot to add $1.2 million dollars poorer.

Kaleva

(36,474 posts)
15. How many people who lied on the paperwork got 10 years?
Wed Jun 21, 2023, 11:58 AM
Jun 2023

I'm talking about folks who didn't then use the gun in a crime.

IronLionZion

(45,738 posts)
12. NRA was silent on police killing legally permitted Philando Castile
Wed Jun 21, 2023, 08:55 AM
Jun 2023

who committed no crimes other than being black.

NRA is like the suit wearing lobbying arm of the KKK

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