Now this is a cool electoral map

[proud2BlibKansan]

The map we're used to seeing exaggerates the size of the Republican vote, since there are a lot of red states that are large in area but small in population. In this cartogram, where 1 square = 1 electoral vote, Obama's mandate becomes easier to see.



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[valerief]

1. Way cool map! nt

[Coyotl]

35. Check these maps to overlay on electoral pattern

[Populist_Prole]

43. Now THAT overlay really nails it doesn't it

Sure does tell a none too flattering story of the red staters.

[valerief]

49. Those are great. No surprises, however. nt

[Marksman_91]

67. Huh, kinda surprised at the Leading Church Bodies map

The Catholic Church is much more prominent in the Midwestern states than I thought.

Of course, seeing its dominance in parts close to the Mexican border and southern Florida is no surprise, the overwhelming latino presence there makes it a given.

[Coyotl]

71. The Mormons are an island in a sea of Catholics.

Of course, leading church might be a smallish fraction of the people when there are many varieties of delusion abounding.

[unc70]

82. The religion map is suspect

I know the NC county religious map fairly well and it does not match the religion one for NC. This looks like it is based on old, sel-reported membership counts from the 90's that exaggerated the Baptists. NC is much more varied. Missing millions of Methodists, etc.

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

72. Thank you, This is awesome

[smirkymonkey]

79. Very interesting overlay.

Pretty much tells a complete story w/ the OP map (which is GREAT!). Not all that surprised though.

[ReallyIAmAnOptimist]

77. It's still missleading because the EV is winner take all (except in Nebraska)...

I like this map, but it's still misleading.

...we need a map that:
1) adjusts to population (as this does)
AND
2) Instead of Blue or red, uses shades of purple

[Coyotl]

80. There is one that has more refined coloring, cities are blue in red states

but it is dizzying in complexity.

[Chorophyll]

2. That IS cool.

[Journeyman]

3. I like this as well. I tell people it proves White mostly voted for Obama, Black mostly for Romney…

[proud2BlibKansan]

6. LOL!

[toby jo]

31. sweet

[Hutzpa]

4. If they can count all those 614,000 votes in AZ

it might just look different with AZ going blue perhaps.

[Tigress DEM]

5. Florida REALLY looks good in blue. nt

[dchill]

41. Second that!

[femrap]

7. Thank you...

finally someone makes a picture of the fact that NO ONE LIVES IN ND, SD, MT, ID, WY, etc.

I'm quite sure that deer and/or cattle out number people in those states.

Great Post!

[Blanks]

20. Hunting states vs non-hunting states.

The importance of the gun control issue can't be understated. The red-staters are convinced that the government is going to take their guns away.

The democrats don't fight hard enough in those states to overcome that belief.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

21. There are plenty of hunting states in the blue area

Michigan's firearm season starts in two days.

And there will be some Democrats among the hunters.

[Blanks]

23. No doubt.

I'm sure there's hunting all over the 'blue' west coast.

Politics is a majority rules game (particularly with electoral votes). I'm merely suggesting that in the red states there is a higher concentration of hunters because there is more wide open spaces. Among those voters; there are single issue voters. That single issue is gun control.

I don't feel like gun control is addressed adequately to hunters in the red states.

[femrap]

28. Maybe the hunting

staters should spend some time in Chicago or other large city and see how guns are used there. And visa versa.

But I just don't understand why anyone would need an AK47. For hunting?

I've fantasized about all the elk, moose, deer, bears, antelope, wolves, bobcats, etc. would gather together and stampede the hunters dressed in orange. Show them who is boss.

I mean, look at the over population of humans!

I grew up on a farm w/ my grandparents. They did not hunt...no guns at all. Just raised beef cattle, dairy, corn and soybeans. Grandpa didn't even kill groundhogs...now my uncles and cousins think it's great fun and required. I don't know what has happened. These dudes get together and all they talk about is guns. It's surreal. I really have no respect for them and spend as little time around them as possible.

I've asked my mother....are you sure I'm not adopted? LOL. The family is all bible-thumping repugnants.

[hack89]

52. Semi-automatic rifles are perfect for hunting

most states limit magazine to 5 rounds. AK clones do not not fire particularly powerful round so in some states they cannot be used to hunt larger game like elk but they make perfect deer rifles at moderate range (300 yards). But they are cheap, compact and rugged - just what you need for hunting.

[femrap]

66. I always enjoy

hearing about the various and stupid mistakes deer hunters make...shooting their foot or a fellow hunter. But human population is high so I guess it keeps our world balanced.

I prefer hunting rapists and seahawks.

buh-bye.

[hack89]

73. So you enjoy human misery and tragedy? ok. nt

[Coyotl]

81. I call BS

In ND the red voters elected a woman Dem who hunts like everyone else. There is no "The red-staters" out there. There are myriad voters of all shades and stripes and no such monolith exists.

To win elections, you have to understand the complexity, not lump everyone into some single block.

[Blanks]

83. One thing I can guarantee you in Arkansas...

If you've got a democrat running for office; he's gonna have an ad with him carrying a hunting rifle.

To win elections you have to have a majority. Part of getting a majority is understanding your voters. If you have a large population of hunters; you claim one candidate is gonna take their guns. If the candidate (or party) that they are accusing doesn't respond; they will lose the hunters.

That's what I see going on; granted it is my own perception. Democrats very often win in built-up areas even in red states. Certainly guns aren't the only issue, but it is one of them. I think it's a big one.

I'm not claiming a 'monolith'; I'm saying that very often when we lose in big hunting states we've let the 'hunting vote' slide.

I'll bet this woman hunter in ND made it clear that she's a hunter; just like the Arkansas democrats did that have won in the past.

[fromwyoming]

62. Belly of the beast

LOVE this electoral college map. And there may only be seven progressive democrats in Wyoming, but we are living here in the belly of the beast doing our best to give it heartburn. With idiot senators like John Barrasso and clueless representatives like Cynthia Lummis, it isn't easy. We had our Obama/Biden signs stolen twice but that is progress! Last time our house was egged twice. Progress!

[femrap]

65. Progress, INDEED!

I've driven through Wyoming a couple of times. I liked it. Very few people which was nice...but I guess most of them are not the ones I want to know.

In 2004, some one drove through the yard to knock down our Kerry signs...ended up hitting a phone pole. What idiots! This year....no one touched a thing!

Hey, welcome to DU!

[ProudProgressiveNow]

8. Nice...

Thanks.

[FailureToCommunicate]

9. Nice. Here is my favorite:

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http://politicalmaps.org/2012-electoral-map/

[Live and Learn]

13. Another good one. Thanks.

[proud2BlibKansan]

24. That's a good one!

[Not Sure]

25. Whoa! That's trippy! n/t

[FailureToCommunicate]

34. Even more trippy one...

from here:
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2012/

[PatrynXX]

10. So tiny Hawaii takes up one more square than Alaska? :)

wanna find one long dead zone for most cell phones? Kearney NE and maybe a little further west but from 1/2 of Nebraska to the west to almost CO total dead zone and using google earth I might as well watch Open Range.

[pokerfan]

51. seems about right

Population...

Hawaii 1,360,301 (2 house seats)
Alaska 710,231 (1 house seat)

[WillyT]

11. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!

[Live and Learn]

12. That is great. Thanks. nt

[pkdu]

14. Love it!....my mantra for Repugs is "dirt doesn't vote" ! ....this

Shows it beautifully !

[kag]

15. I'm so stealing that!

"Dirt doesn't vote!"

[xtraxritical]

18. I think 49.7% of dirt did vote. I'd rather be dead than red!

[daisiebell]

16. map

Wow! That was really a cool map. President Obama might have used it last election.

[Cha]

17. That is Cool and Most Appreciated.. thanks proud2BlibKansan! nm

[dmr]

19. This really puts it all into perspective.

It's pretty fascinating, too. A big thank you for posting.

[Skinner]

22. The red is too bright -- it creates an optical illusion that looks bigger. Try this version instead:

[JHB]

26. Romney wins Presidency... of the Confederacy

[Fawke Em]

37. Didn't realize Oklahoma, Kansas, Montana, etc.

were part of the confederacy.

[JHB]

45. They're not (weren't). And Florida and Virginia were.

I didn't say everything red was the Confederacy. It's just something the wingnuts can daub their tears with.

[JimDandy]

27. Very nice! Saved it. n/t

[CreekDog]

57. good observation

[underoath]

29. electoral college number means nothing.

[Care Acutely]

68. Why? Because your man Mittens lost? Before election day

you did a lot of "concern" posting, and now you are firmly sour-grapes / right-wing.

IT'S A MYSTERY.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

70. Flaunting your bitterness or ignorance this time? No matter, since President Barack Hussein Obama

won the popular vote as well. Enjoy!

[RedCloud]

30. Now west coast, east coast and FLA push inward !Pop that red pimple!

[Ian_rd]

32. Ahh, yes the Electoral College. Love it when it's good, hate it when it's bad.

Obama only won by less than 3% of the popular vote. In contrast to his Electoral Vote victory of more than 20%.

The EC needs to go. Remember the 2000 election? Yea, shit needs to go.

[Daniel537]

78. Eh, winning's winning. As long as the EC is the law

i'll be more than happy to gloat about our overwhelming victory's in '08 and '12.

[Coyotl]

33. These vary in quality and realism. I prefer the geographic realism to graph paper

I'd like a high quality version of the latter.

[rivegauche]

36. Where's New Mexico?

NM was blue this year, solidly blue. Is it not on the map because we have a small population?

[Divine Discontent]

42. right below CO

[rivegauche]

47. Ooops, thanks. I missed it.

[MNBrewer]

38. Reminds of this map

http://apps.nccd.cdc.gov/DDT_STRS2/NationalDiabetesPrevalenceEstimates.aspx?mode=OBS

[heaven05]

39. Huh!

why does the media take us for such fools. Your stupid dumb down shows are not working!!! All the reality shows, and competition shows and such. It's not working dummies!!!!

[PNW_Dem]

40. Now I'm really confused. Which part is the "Real America"?

[Scurrilous]

44. K & R

[Sekhmets Daughter]

46. Thanks!

[Bigredhunk]

48. Organization Of Cartographers For Social Equality

[pokerfan]

50. as seen on wikipedia

Cartogram representation of the Electoral College vote for the 2012 election, with each square representing one electoral vote.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

69. This is excellent. Saving and sharing. Thanks.

Lots of great maps on this thread, but I think this is my fave.

[trueblue2u]

53. Hunting site

A friend and I have been kicked off this site under many different names, many times they suck. But are fun to screw with if your bored......
http://www.tndeer.com/tndeertalk/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=32&page=1

First time poster.....

[hrmjustin]

54. Welcome to DU.

[leveymg]

55. That's why they ought to call it, The Great Red Empty.

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[krispos42]

56. K&R

And bookmarking to print out at work...

[qanda]

58. Nice!

[PennsylvaniaMatt]

59. The best electoral map

The best electoral map was on Politico and allowed people to zoom in to specific counties to see the vote totals. There you could see that - SURPRISE - President Obama was re-elected also because white, blue collar voters supported him and not just "urbans"!

[Up2Late]

60. Nice! Looks like Legos

Lego's might be more fun than spray painting the ice a Rockefeller Center next time.

[enki23]

61. Still overrepresents the republicans. Red state electoral votes represent fewer people than blue.

[Egalitarian Thug]

63. K&R That is cool. n/t

[YOHABLO]

64. Red States Represent the Hearland ..or rather, der Fatherland

R

[SCALA13]

74. Now thats an electoral map that makes sense

[fightthegoodfightnow]

75. Wall Street Journal

...showed the state map all red... What BS.

BRAVO for posting this. Thanks.

[DallasNE]

76. Even That Map Tilts Toward Republicans

Because of the Senate imbalance to the map. Every State gets 2 squares for the Senate, whether California or Montana. If this was done on the basis of the House only the red area would be even smaller with the blue area increasing by a like amount. The State split was Obama 26, Romney 24 so House only in the EC was Obama 280, Romney 158.