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madaboutharry

(42,028 posts)
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 09:31 AM Jun 2023

Six hateful people are destroying life in America.

The majority of the Supreme Court are right-wing extremists who are drunk on power and have given themselves the power to remake life in America.

They are operating in bad faith. They are twisting their interpretations of law to fit into their personal narrow political and religious views.

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Six hateful people are destroying life in America. (Original Post) madaboutharry Jun 2023 OP
The anti-democratic six on the Supreme... Jrose Jun 2023 #1
and refusing access to life-giving water geardaddy Jun 2023 #13
They also gutted Miranda rights. (Nt) LostOne4Ever Jun 2023 #49
Post removed Post removed Jun 2023 #60
Never ever forget that is why they were selected in the first place. BeckyDem Jun 2023 #2
There is more than that. There are millions of hateful Christians standing behind them Hotler Jun 2023 #3
Yes. Also behind them are the capitalist patriarchal oligarchs who paid for their confirmations. ancianita Jun 2023 #4
+1 2naSalit Jun 2023 #22
They're on the fast track to a fast, high-power position of slightlv Jun 2023 #36
What we should do, IMO, is refuse to let them make us miserable. wnylib Jun 2023 #63
put a sign on the door intelpug Jul 2023 #83
It's the fault of all the people who elected Trump in 2016 yardwork Jun 2023 #5
Shhhhhh inthewind21 Jun 2023 #8
Somehow, so many of us managed to vote wisely! yardwork Jun 2023 #41
Yes, I just posted something like Cha Jun 2023 #38
Good for you, Cha! Love your posts! yardwork Jun 2023 #39
Mahalo, yardwork.. as do I Cha Jun 2023 #42
+1000. I'll never get over how the forces against her all gossiped Nixie Jul 2023 #86
you forgot flooding our country with guns GenXer47 Jun 2023 #6
Christian Taliban NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #7
Don't forget to consider their abiding and unflagging faith in their infallibility. jaxexpat Jun 2023 #9
Yes, using "it has no historical basis" against Roe v Wade and then ignoring centuries of prior sinkingfeeling Jun 2023 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2023 #11
It is a Supreme Court decision mercuryblues Jun 2023 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2023 #15
Congress made this particular law BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #16
Actually he did have the authority Galraedia Jun 2023 #19
Thank you. Bluethroughu Jun 2023 #25
The Supreme Court shit started in 2000 DENVERPOPS Jun 2023 #30
So true. Every word. yardwork Jun 2023 #44
Truly sad but true. Ironic because they're all allergic Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2023 #68
5 of the 6 Traildogbob Jun 2023 #14
His wife wanted to end Democracy during the insurrection! Bluethroughu Jun 2023 #26
You are correct. Traildogbob Jun 2023 #29
Unfortunately, but we don't have to listen to them... Bluethroughu Jun 2023 #33
If the republican SCOTUS hasn't pissed you off yet, tiredtoo Jun 2023 #17
And twisting logic while gaslighting precedent, this is abuse by any measure bucolic_frolic Jun 2023 #18
They are merely calling balls & strikes, objectively Martin Eden Jun 2023 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2023 #59
Members of Congress continue to claim that the court has an ethics problem and that in2herbs Jun 2023 #21
they are republicans. barbtries Jun 2023 #23
+ a million stage left Jun 2023 #40
me either. barbtries Jun 2023 #43
Thank goodness, stage left Jul 2023 #76
i was so idealistic. barbtries Jul 2023 #77
I'm so sorry. stage left Jul 2023 #82
Every single day murrayd190 Jul 2023 #71
"Why our party will not fight fire with fire is beyond anything I can process!" BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #72
Thanks. I get so flipping tired of the handwringing. This one seems "special". marble falls Jul 2023 #75
Unfortunately BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #78
The old "I'm a new Democrat, but ..." marble falls Jul 2023 #79
Yuppers. BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #80
welcome to DU gopiscrap Jul 2023 #73
But does he feel the way you do??? marble falls Jul 2023 #84
SCOTUS: Money is speech so we'll speak, now STFU and give us the money Ponietz Jun 2023 #24
That says it perfectly! Bluethroughu Jun 2023 #27
It is time to ignore the Harlan Crowe Supreme Court. gibraltar72 Jun 2023 #28
Jim Crow Supreme Court, too. yardwork Jun 2023 #45
Pretty fucking clear Evolve Dammit Jun 2023 #31
Let's be honest DownriverDem Jun 2023 #32
Too many of them will ExWhoDoesntCare Jul 2023 #81
N/t inthewind21 Jul 2023 #87
Remember America, this is what you voted for. hadEnuf Jun 2023 #34
Oh, let's include the nonvoters. What was behind curtain #3 Hortensis Jun 2023 #54
Yeah, the nonvoters really need to cut the crap and get out there. hadEnuf Jun 2023 #62
First, these 6 came for the women... 3825-87867 Jun 2023 #35
Yes 6 Hateful Greedy so called Cha Jun 2023 #37
Hillary won by a lot! czarjak Jun 2023 #50
Popular vote Not Cha Jun 2023 #51
We need to change that! czarjak Jun 2023 #52
That would be Fair & to do that Cha Jun 2023 #53
The Base covered the bases a long time ago. Strangel-holds don't have to last forever. czarjak Jun 2023 #57
Right.. not forever. And it seems Cha Jun 2023 #58
She would have won the electoral college by a lot had it not been for James Comey. StevieM Jun 2023 #61
The Comey Brand. Of course. Any means necessary. They mean it. czarjak Jun 2023 #64
Comey inthewind21 Jul 2023 #88
They are not that strong, don't give them credit. elleng Jun 2023 #46
It's called leverage. usonian Jun 2023 #47
ACTIVIST COURT Skittles Jun 2023 #48
Subversive (6) Cult, not a court. Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2023 #69
Not even close. But between extremist idiocy and Hortensis Jun 2023 #55
They should go out for a few drinks, let Kavanaugh drive GreenWave Jun 2023 #56
Some call them "Supreme Court Justices" Blue Owl Jul 2023 #65
ANOTHER reason why we need to keep the White House. calimary Jul 2023 #66
Sorry but I see how most of it leads back to one person misanthrope Jul 2023 #67
I agree, reagan clearly started the ball rolling. The Jungle 1 Jul 2023 #70
And inthewind21 Jul 2023 #89
Imagine if Jimmy Carter had been re-elected in 1980 Texx Jul 2023 #74
I vote for Mitch McConnell N.I.4.N.I.2023 Jul 2023 #85

Jrose

(1,521 posts)
1. The anti-democratic six on the Supreme...
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 09:41 AM
Jun 2023

Have approved, so far:
Discrimination by colleges against people of color,
Discrimination by businesses against LGBTQ people,
Denial of women's right to choose,

The only way to reverse excessive fascist bias...
Is to counterbalance the bias.

Response to Jrose (Reply #1)

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
2. Never ever forget that is why they were selected in the first place.
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 09:43 AM
Jun 2023

Keep in your lane, person of color, keep in your class, worker.


Hotler

(13,743 posts)
3. There is more than that. There are millions of hateful Christians standing behind them
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 09:45 AM
Jun 2023

using the SCOTUS to force their will down our throats.

ancianita

(42,980 posts)
4. Yes. Also behind them are the capitalist patriarchal oligarchs who paid for their confirmations.
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 10:10 AM
Jun 2023

slightlv

(7,448 posts)
36. They're on the fast track to a fast, high-power position of
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 02:09 PM
Jun 2023

great "meaning" in the theocracy to come. And its not just these 6 judges, although they'd be corrupt regardless of what type of cases came before them. It's all the dark money in government in general, and all the bribes these SCROTUS judges are taking.

Damn! I'm sorry, but I am so livid with (especially) these two decisions, especially following on the heels of Biden's statement yesterday.

If no one in our government will do anything about the corruption, can we, as a class of people, sue for relief via the United Nations? Someone has to hear us and take us seriously. And what's going on in this country is every bit as bad as the courts and judges in those banana republics *rump kept whining about when he was in office.

Who do we shake up and how can we get them to notice we're saying "enough is enough"... DO something.

wnylib

(25,355 posts)
63. What we should do, IMO, is refuse to let them make us miserable.
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 08:34 PM
Jun 2023

We should stay united and support each other. Embrace our LGBTQ+ friends and acquaintances. Embrace people of other cultures, ethnicities, and races. Help each other cope. Donate to organizations and candidates who support our values. Work for them.

And use some creativity. If you own a business, put a sign on the door that you do business only with LGBTQ+ customers. Turn the tables. Call it your religious belief. Many churches do embrace them.

Same with anti choice people. Say you deal only with pro choice people as a moral belief.

That's not actually creating divisions since they exist already. It is just acknowledging the differences and letting them experience the issues from the other side. Show them how exclusivity feels.

Or, the opposite. Kill them with kindness. Let them know your own feelings and beliefs and tell them that it won't change your feelings about them because you love them, too. Since so many of them profess to be religious, tell them that Jesus loves them, but is saddened by their hatreds.

Appealing to the UN will not work. They won't get involved in internal politics. The best we could get from them is a human rights violation statement, which has no teeth to it and would be vetoed by the US unless it was a statement backed by a General Assembly vote.





intelpug

(151 posts)
83. put a sign on the door
Sun Jul 2, 2023, 01:51 AM
Jul 2023

Yeah, That might work in very large urban area's but it will never happen most anywhere else. Most businesses, especially retail that I know go out of their way to stay out of politics. No matter which side you think is "the right side" they cannot afford to alienate ANY of their customer base and so wisely steer clear of it altogether.

yardwork

(68,987 posts)
5. It's the fault of all the people who elected Trump in 2016
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 10:14 AM
Jun 2023

Simple as that. Hillary Clinton talked about the Supreme Court throughout her campaign. There was already one vacancy - a nominee stolen from Obama by the Republicans - with other likely vacancies coming up.

These decisions would be 6-3 the other way if Hillary had been elected in 2016. Roe v Wade would not have been overturned.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
8. Shhhhhh
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 10:29 AM
Jun 2023

Stick to the script, it's the media's fault. It's the Russians fault. Republican's stole the election. It's NOT the voters fault. Therefore it's Biden's fault now because he hasn't waved his magic wand and fixed it all! Must be because he's to old Got it?

yardwork

(68,987 posts)
41. Somehow, so many of us managed to vote wisely!
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 03:07 PM
Jun 2023

Despite the media, the Russians, the billionaires, Facebook, and all the other obstacles to rational thought, somehow WE managed to get to the polls and vote for the Democrat!

It can be done!

Nixie

(17,945 posts)
86. +1000. I'll never get over how the forces against her all gossiped
Mon Jul 3, 2023, 11:25 AM
Jul 2023

about unreal things, while she was always focused on real things. The attacks on her were one big petty gossip session while she was always real world issues.

Now at least two generations are screwed — hard fought and important gains just thrown away. It’s so sickening.

 

GenXer47

(1,204 posts)
6. you forgot flooding our country with guns
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 10:25 AM
Jun 2023

How much more can the young people take???
Cannibals. Fucking cannibals.

NowISeetheLight

(4,002 posts)
7. Christian Taliban
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 10:26 AM
Jun 2023

I'm thinking down the road even some Christians who are moderate will be unhappy. As the fanatical Christian Taliban base and their pro-Christian SCOTUS allow more and more religious based rulings. Some of these will eventually affect even some faithful.

Eventually things like contraception, divorce, interracial marriage, pornography, prayer, working on the Sabbath, these things will end up in court. The fanatics have their toehold now. They're going to go for even more extreme stuff.

sinkingfeeling

(57,309 posts)
10. Yes, using "it has no historical basis" against Roe v Wade and then ignoring centuries of prior
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 10:33 AM
Jun 2023

racial discrimination to overturn affirmative action.

Response to madaboutharry (Original post)

mercuryblues

(16,180 posts)
12. It is a Supreme Court decision
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 10:45 AM
Jun 2023

where did you see people blaming Biden?

Bisen is the one trying to make it a law, which the SC just killed.

Response to mercuryblues (Reply #12)

BumRushDaShow

(166,120 posts)
16. Congress made this particular law
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 10:54 AM
Jun 2023
H.R.1412 - Higher Education Relief Opportunities for Students Act of 2003

that the Biden administration utilized for implementing this program and that was believed by at least the minority decisions on the SCOTUS, to offer authority to do so (i.e., Justice Kagan's dissent). The (RW) majority SCOTUS disagreed.

Galraedia

(5,329 posts)
19. Actually he did have the authority
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 11:06 AM
Jun 2023

Under a 2003 law called the Higher Education Relief Opportunities for Students Act, or HEROES Act. The law says the government can provide relief to recipients of student loans when there is a “national emergency,” allowing it to act to ensure people are not in “a worse position financially” as a result of the emergency.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
30. The Supreme Court shit started in 2000
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 12:08 PM
Jun 2023

by interfering with the Florida Presidential Re-count when they had absolutely no authority to do so.....

THAT was allowed and it has been Katie Bar the Door Ever since............

Then, The Republican's illegitimately Installed W again, by deliberately screwing with Kerry, in the 2004 election.

And then The Republicans defeating Obama from legitimately selecting a new Supreme Court Justice.

And then The Republicans jamming their Three Court justices thru with no vetting and by basically corrupt means.......

And then The Republicans allowing Treason and Putin to install Trump and allowing the Republican Senators free reign,

And here we are today folks.........All while the nation slept...........

And today, the Supreme Court, illegally dis-allowing Biden to relieve the Students from the corrupt student loans.......

Traildogbob

(12,608 posts)
14. 5 of the 6
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 10:47 AM
Jun 2023

Were appointed by presidents that lost the popular vote. The 6th, a black man appointed by HW as a token, stands against equal rights and voting rights. Sorry, Joe they are much worse than “Not Normal”. But this is not Biden’s fault. It’s voters fault and those that don’t have time to bother with politics.
And voters can fix this shit. Then expand the god damned court to counter those Cristian terrorist and their absolute power. Then make voting access to everyone a priority to keep shit fixed. Just my opinion.

Traildogbob

(12,608 posts)
29. You are correct.
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 12:05 PM
Jun 2023

Watching an old movie to avoid seeing more from this goon squad come down today, the movie is titled “Law Abiding Citizen” with Gerard Butler and Jami Fox, highlighting the fucked up legal system. One scene is in a Judge’s Chambers with two lawyers and she, the Judge, states matter of factly when questioned about her action, “Well that’s the benefit of being a judge, I can do whatever the fuck I want”.
That is our legal system. And certainly 6 in the highest seat in the world, believe that, because it’s true.

Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
33. Unfortunately, but we don't have to listen to them...
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 12:17 PM
Jun 2023

They've been ignored before, for stupid rulings and actions.

If it takes ignoring them until they resign, I'm good with that.

Response to Martin Eden (Reply #20)

in2herbs

(4,253 posts)
21. Members of Congress continue to claim that the court has an ethics problem and that
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 11:25 AM
Jun 2023

they are looking into it. The problem is they are looking into past ethics issues and nothing but hand-wringing is being done about the ethics violations happening today. Starting now Congress should require each justice to sign, under penalty of perjury, a conflicts of interest statement for every decision it issues and the COI statement should be included with each decision. If a judge refuses to sign a COI their decision is void. If it is found that they filled out a COI but lied on the COI they can be removed from office for perjury.


barbtries

(31,147 posts)
43. me either.
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 03:07 PM
Jun 2023

when i was about 10 years old i made a promise with myself that i would never hate. hah well, i do. a lot

barbtries

(31,147 posts)
77. i was so idealistic.
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 05:38 PM
Jul 2023

i also remember thinking that i would probably never know anyone who murdered someone or was murdered. neither came true, and the latter was my own daughter.

i was just pollyanna looking at the world through rose colored glasses.

murrayd190

(1 post)
71. Every single day
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 09:19 AM
Jul 2023

I actually think there isn't a strong enough word to describe how much I loathe republicons. They should all be selling used cars! And we've allowed this to happen! I became a Democrat when I finally started paying attention! Why our party will not fight fire with fire is beyond anything I can process!

BumRushDaShow

(166,120 posts)
72. "Why our party will not fight fire with fire is beyond anything I can process!"
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 09:41 AM
Jul 2023

You just witnessed a President and party that DID "fight fire with fire" (student loan forgiveness), which was summarily batted down by a Supreme Court.

We saw back in 2012, an earlier Democratic President - "fight fire with fire" by barreling around the Senate's blockages of his Constitutionally-mandated authority to name "appointments" for his administratoin. And thus, despite the Senate having declared themselves to be in "Pro-forma" session, meaning they were technically NOT "in recess", that meant that no "recess appointments" could be made.

HOWEVER Obama DID make "recess apointments" anyway (several members of the "National Labor Relations Board" ). He was then sued and LOST at the... wait for it... Supreme Court -

Supreme court rules against Obama on recess appointments

Paul Lewis in Washington
@PaulLewis
Thu 26 Jun 2014 14.10 EDT


The US supreme court has dealt a damaging blow to Barack Obama's presidency by unanimously ruling that he overstepped his constitutional powers when he filled high-level government vacancies without consulting the Senate. The ruling released on Thursday is a victory for Republicans, who argued Obama's unlawfully made use of a clause in the constitution allowing the president to make appointments during congressional recess as part of a patten in which the White House routinely acts outside of his authority.

However, in a majority opinion that infuriated conservative critics of the president, the supreme court simultaneously endorsed a broad interpretation of the circumstances in which a president can invoke the clause to appoint government officials without consulting the Senate.

While the nine supreme court justices were united in their belief that Obama’s 2012 appointment of three officials to the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) without Senate confirmation was unlawful, they were conflicted over exactly how much room for manoeuvre the president has when invoking a clause in the constitution intended to deal with periods the Senate is in recess.

By a narrow, five to four majority, the court opted for a broad reading of the recess clause, effectively rubber-stamping a practice which, they said, had been used routinely by presidents going back Andrew Johnson in 1867 – without much objection from the Senate. “That broader reading is reinforced by centuries of history, which we are hesitant to disturb,” Justice Stephen Breyer wrote for the majority.

(snip)

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/jun/26/supreme-court-rules-against-obama-recess-appointments


His appointees then had to step down.

There is really only one other "fiery" solution and you might not want to go there. Jack Smith is in the process of prosecuting a bunch who DID try to "go there". We could become a "banana republic dictatorship" and dissolve the Supreme Court, OR we can try to find alternate ways to get what we want until some of those RW loons finally retire.

DownriverDem

(6,978 posts)
32. Let's be honest
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 12:12 PM
Jun 2023

In 2016 anti Hillary people were warned. Presidential elections are also about SC & Federal Court picks. How do they feel now? Will they do the same thing with Biden?

hadEnuf

(3,537 posts)
34. Remember America, this is what you voted for.
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 12:22 PM
Jun 2023

Enjoy it.

And enjoy Fox News. Maybe Tucker and Hannity will send you a check.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
54. Oh, let's include the nonvoters. What was behind curtain #3
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 04:47 PM
Jun 2023

is starting to attract even their proudly feckless notice also. They blame us, of course. I grab every (admittedly rare) opportunity to set those who still show their heads straight on that.

hadEnuf

(3,537 posts)
62. Yeah, the nonvoters really need to cut the crap and get out there.
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 07:27 PM
Jun 2023

The apathetic "it'll make no difference " has been proven wrong repeatedly. It does matter and we are now seeing the results of not understanding that.

Cha

(317,108 posts)
37. Yes 6 Hateful Greedy so called
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 03:01 PM
Jun 2023

jurists are Destroying America sitting up there on their high SC benches while enjoying Frolicking with Billionaires.. while on their vacations

And some of the loudest on Twitter are Whining about President Biden who advocated Not to vote for Hillary.

Cha

(317,108 posts)
53. That would be Fair & to do that
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 04:45 PM
Jun 2023

We need both chambers full of Dems and the President.

The SC wouldn’t go along tho.

czarjak

(13,455 posts)
57. The Base covered the bases a long time ago. Strangel-holds don't have to last forever.
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 05:10 PM
Jun 2023

Cha

(317,108 posts)
58. Right.. not forever. And it seems
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 05:29 PM
Jun 2023

what we Dems could do is WIN All 3 branches in 2024 and the House could start with the Student Debt Forgiveness.

StevieM

(10,578 posts)
61. She would have won the electoral college by a lot had it not been for James Comey.
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 06:41 PM
Jun 2023

He dominated that election from start to finish. Without his constant interference, HRC would have won decisively.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
88. Comey
Mon Jul 3, 2023, 12:46 PM
Jul 2023

made an announcement. It was THE PEOPLE, who decided how they would or would not vote based on said announcement. Russian propaganda, Fox news, whatever your blame of choice might be. And they did so knowing that if you vote AGIANST or don't vote at all Trump would end up POTUS. Or at least they SHOULD have known! It REALLY was that black and white simple. You can "blame" whoever or whatever you want. But the fact remans, it was, and always is THE VOTERS who decide the election.

usonian

(23,680 posts)
47. It's called leverage.
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 04:02 PM
Jun 2023

If you control 6 people, you don't have to control 74 million (fail) or 232 electors (fail twice. Once for the real ones and once for the fakes.)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
55. Not even close. But between extremist idiocy and
Fri Jun 30, 2023, 04:52 PM
Jun 2023

climate change, there's genuine potential. I haven't quite made up my mind if I want to follow and kill them if they all fly off to what they imagine is their reward in the next world or just be glad we get to tend to the ruins without them. Yes, real conceit that I won't be among those decomposing.

Yeah, yeah. Itm, accept that ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES? Judging just from indulgence of misdirected blame, safe to say some failed to take even the lessons so far. So, no matter how well we do, it'd be wise to buck up for more.

Some will moan through what comes and call that the end of the world. The rest of us will handle it until and if the real thing comes.

calimary

(89,136 posts)
66. ANOTHER reason why we need to keep the White House.
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 12:41 AM
Jul 2023

And get Congress to pass term limits for Supreme Court justices. NO MORE lifetime appointments!!!

I wrote an ask about it for my Indivisible group's next "Call to Action" email - which will be put together NEXT weekend, not this weekend. And there's plenty of time to refine and update. Everybody on the writing & editing team wants to take this weekend off because of the 4th of July next Tuesday. Nobody's gonna want to call their reps about any issue next week, and there'll be few, if any, staffers on duty locally or the state capitol or in DC to take calls anyway. Screw it. The whole team needs a break!

misanthrope

(9,390 posts)
67. Sorry but I see how most of it leads back to one person
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 01:39 AM
Jul 2023

The prime culprit

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