Toddler dies after being left alone for 10 days

[TexasDem69]

https://people.com/girl-dies-mom-allegedly-left-child-home-alone-ten-days-7552615

Awful story. Hope the mother never, ever gets out of prison.

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

1. I read the story. It's strange and tragic

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

2. another weird one: 18-Month-Old Dies After Being Left in Car Overnight

18-Month-Old Dies After Being Left in Car Overnight
Florida parents are charged with aggravated manslaughter


A toddler died after her parents left her in a hot car overnight following a Fourth of July party in Florida, authorities said Thursday. The Polk County Sheriff's Office said Lakeland couple Joel and Jazmine Rondon have been charged with aggravated manslaughter of a child. Authorities said the Rondons accidentally left the 18-month-old girl in her car seat while they removed their two other children and unloaded their vehicle after arriving home from the Independence Day celebration. Joel Rondon discovered his toddler unresponsive in the car the following morning, the AP reports. She was declared dead at a hospital.

The couple submitted to drug tests, according to the Polk County Sheriff's Office. Joel Rondon tested positive for methamphetamines, marijuana, and alcohol; officials said; his wife was positive for marijuana and alcohol. An autopsy ruled the toddler's cause of death was hyperthermia. The couple was arrested Thursday. It was not immediately clear if the Rondons, both 33, have hired an attorney who could comment on the allegations. "This rips your heart out," said Sheriff Grady Judd, per WTVT, adding, "This child from 3am until she was discovered was harnessed and could not get away from this."

https://www.newser.com/story/337379/18-month-old-dies-after-being-left-in-car-overnight.html

[NowISeetheLight]

3. Meth... Pot.... Booze

Sounds like a great party to bring your kids too.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

4. And drive them home from (nt)

[lostnfound]

5. Stupid aand awful but damn there needs to be an alarm for this

Technology would be a nice backup for forgetfulness, drunk and stupid parents. A loud alarm if your kid is in a car seat for more than 5 minutes after the doors are shut, something like that.

[SYFROYH]

6. New cars have this feature. They alert to check back seat with the slightest weight.

...as soon as the engine goes off.

[NowISeetheLight]

10. 2019

My 2019 car does this. When I turn it off, the bell rings several times, and the display says "Check Back Seat." It's not by weight, but the passenger seat air bag off light is on when I'm alone or my small dog is in the passenger seat, so that is by weight. The technology exists. I'm waiting for it to become a mandatory feature like backup cameras became a couple of years ago.

[phylny]

13. Yes, my Toyota will even send

a message to my phone telling me to check the back seat.

[dalton99a]

7. Proof that some people should be sterilized.

What a stupid monster

[swong19104]

8. Prison isn't the right option for the mother

Just make sure she's not able to ever have children again. She's no threat to society, so why imprison her? What is punishing her helpful to the rest of society? Is it going to deter other prospective mothers from doing what she did?

Vengeance based on emotions is the worst thing enlightened (I hope!) people can do. Killing all the upper echelon people within the Republican party, yeah, that makes sense, because they are an existential threat to society and the planet. This woman? If she were to become a mother again, for the rest of her life, she might be able to birth 10, 12 children. And if she were to be so negligent as to cause all 12 to die, so what? That's not a threat to any of us.

And lastly, it's none of my business, but in some circumstances (probably not in this case), the mother has to make that rather terrible choice on having to commit infanticide. Other animals do it on a regular basis due to whatever circumstances are occurring. Zebra mothers are known to kick their newborns to death because the bleating of the newborn will signal to predators the whereabouts of the herd. Bears, birds, baboons are also known to commit infanticide. It's nature's way of enabling the fittest to survive. I doubt that is the case here, but I'm not in this mother's head rationalizing on what transpired.

[brooklynite]

12. Prison is perfectly appropriate.....

...as an warning to other people who might consider doing the same thing.

the mother has to make that rather terrible choice on having to commit infanticide

You know the mother went on a vacation, right?

[swong19104]

18. Going on vacation is negligence,

not attempted infanticide. Why are people still harboring second millennium BCE attitudes on crime and punishment. Ooh, we must stone her for her negligence! I think we, as humans and society, have moved beyond that.

Anders Breivik, the Norwegian white supremacist who killed the most people, using a gun and a bomb (69 and 8 people killed, respectively) in all of mass-shooting history (outside of a military action, I suppose), is locked up for just 21 years in prison. And is treated rather humanely while there.

You think this mother's action is much worse than Breivik's?

[brooklynite]

19. Leaving your kid alone when you go out for dinner is negligence...

Leaving your kid alone for a weekend is gross negligence...

Leaving your kid alone for TEN DAYS and leaving the country is unforgivable. Any sane individual can assume a 6 month child won't survive.

The comparison with Breivik is meaningless: it says nothing about whether a 21 years sentence is REASONABLE for the death of more than 70 people, rather than simply shorter. I'm happy to say he's a person who should not be released into society at any time, however nice his prison accommodations are.

[swong19104]

20. Breivik can still be a threat after his sentence

He apparently has not renounced his right-wing terroristic leanings. Keeping him in prison is a wise move.

This woman who neglected her baby... she's not a threat to society. Keeping her in prison isn't going to teach anyone anything. Most mothers are going to be far more attentive to their newborns than she was. And any mother who is going to be negligent isn't going to be scared into being more diligent about her newborn by seeing the penal consequences of being negligent.

[Beaverhausen]

21. that mother had to know her baby would not survive being alone for 10 days

what the actual fuck dude? Why are you excusing what she did as simple neglect?

Is she a friend of yours? did you got on vacation with her?

jesus christ on a crutch! STOP

[SYFROYH]

14. There is room for penalty in sentencing.

And penalty should be proportionate to the crime. Her neglect was willful and no person with an IQ over 70 would think a toddler can survive for 10 days in a crib.

A long prison can be justified in this case.

A vengeful sentence would be to let her die of thirst while rolling around in her urine and feces.

[LisaL]

15. First of all, the child wasn't a newborn infant.

Second of all, mother's "terrible choice" was to go on vacation while leaving her toddler home alone for 10 days.
A very long prison sentence certainly appears warranted to me.

[swong19104]

17. And the point of a long (or any) prison sentence is to do what?

What's the end goal here? Eye for an eye? That's 2000 BCE barbarism. Send a message to other mothers to be more mindful of their children? I think that's pretty much a given. Show society that we're tough on crime? Is there a spate of child endangerment happening here? Maybe a PSA on TV would be more productive than sending her to prison as a statement to be more mindful of your children. Lock her up because she's a threat to society? Really? I would probably never hire her as a babysitter, but other than that, is she a threat to anyone?

[WhiskeyGrinder]

16. lol a lot going on in this post