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Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
Mon Jul 10, 2023, 04:55 PM Jul 2023

What can the DNC do to help states to permanently eliminate caucuses?

Caucuses potentially disenfranchise voters, particularly those who have difficulty attending caucus meetings due to work schedules, disabilities, or other reasons. Unlike primary elections, which are held throughout the day and allow voters to cast their ballots at a time that is convenient for them, caucuses typically require voters to attend a specific meeting at a specific time in order to participate.

In addition, it's my understanding that caucus systems can be complex and confusing, which may discourage some voters from participating. It's also clear (to me) that caucuses can be less democratic than primaries, as they often involve a smaller percentage of the electorate and can be dominated by party activists and insiders.

Another potential concern with caucuses is that unlike primary elections, where voters cast their ballots in private, caucuses involve public meetings where voters must declare their support for a particular candidate in front of others. This can create a situation where voters may feel pressure from others to support a particular candidate or may be intimidated into not expressing their true preferences.

Furthermore, caucus attendees may be subject to peer pressure or aggressive tactics from supporters of a particular candidate, which could further discourage participation or lead to a situation where the loudest and most vocal attendees dominate the proceedings.

In contrast, primary elections allow voters to cast their ballots in private, which can help to ensure that they are able to freely express their preferences without fear of intimidation or reprisal. This is seen as a key advantage of primary elections over caucuses, particularly in states with a history of voter suppression or where there are concerns about the safety of voters or having to deal with aggressive "grass roots" groups.

Should the DNC help states to eliminate caucuses? What can the DNC do to help states to permanently eliminate caucuses?

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tritsofme

(19,774 posts)
1. Caucuses should simply not be an acceptable form of delegate selection.
Mon Jul 10, 2023, 04:59 PM
Jul 2023

The secret ballot must be sacrosanct

tritsofme

(19,774 posts)
6. Huh? If anything, that makes it the perfect time to solve the problem.
Mon Jul 10, 2023, 07:51 PM
Jul 2023

It would be much harder to change the status quo once the ball gets rolling on 2028.

And there will indeed be primaries and caucuses across the country next year to select the delegates that will renominate Biden/Harris. Weird comment.

Demsrule86

(71,467 posts)
10. It is not an problem we can solve. For example, in Iowa the Caucus is state law and
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 08:11 AM
Jul 2023

The GOP government won't budge. How can you fix that? You can only stop giving Iowa any influence.

Demsrule86

(71,467 posts)
12. We can't do anything about Iowa...it is a law and the GOP won't budge. Those state that
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 08:13 AM
Jul 2023

hold caucuses are small and will have little effect. We could not count their delegates and probably should.

Xavier Breath

(6,429 posts)
4. When I first read about how a caucus works
Mon Jul 10, 2023, 06:57 PM
Jul 2023

I couldn't believe what I was reading. All the sitting around, and having to defend your supporting your candidate, or trying to convince someone to abandon theirs, seems absolutely crazy. Let me vote and get the hell out of there already.

LetMyPeopleVote

(174,550 posts)
5. I was with the Obama voter protection team in 2008 which was the last year of Texas Two Step
Mon Jul 10, 2023, 07:31 PM
Jul 2023

Prior to 2012, Texas had a process called the Texas Two Step where a portion of the delegates were selected in a primary and the rest of the delegates were selected the night of the primary at a caucus. I ended up being the leader of my precinct's caucus where we had over 100 people attending. After the precinct caucus, each county convention met and selected the delegates to the state convention based on the caucus result and the primary. The Obama campaign had training sessions on how to game the caucus portion and I learned some fun tricks. Bottom line, Hillary won the Texas primary but President Obama won the most Texas delegates. There was a credential challenge to my county's delegates that was pending until Hillary Clinton conceded one day before the Texas state democratic convention.

Caucuses are not democratic. I was happy when the DNC made Texas drop the Texas two-step in 2012.

MichMan

(16,574 posts)
7. Refuse to participate in any of them is one way
Mon Jul 10, 2023, 08:19 PM
Jul 2023

Last edited Mon Jul 10, 2023, 10:40 PM - Edit history (2)

When Michigan moved their primary up several years ago, the DNC said that delegates from Michigan would not be allowed to count. They later conceded to count half of them come convention time.

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