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CNBC's worst 10 states to live and work in. Notice a pattern? (Original Post) Clash City Rocker Jul 2023 OP
is there an article? would love to read more Recycle_Guru Jul 2023 #1
Found it Clash City Rocker Jul 2023 #3
thank you! I will read through it and maybe see full ranking Recycle_Guru Jul 2023 #4
👀 underpants Jul 2023 #32
like this? DBoon Jul 2023 #6
Screenshot for the Twitterless FakeNoose Jul 2023 #75
Here's the link RainCaster Jul 2023 #2
+1 dalton99a Jul 2023 #65
GOP Rebl2 Jul 2023 #5
and here are the top 5 to live and work in Recycle_Guru Jul 2023 #7
New Jersey? Duppers Jul 2023 #14
New Jersey is a great state to live in Clash City Rocker Jul 2023 #23
No. former9thward Jul 2023 #28
yes, NJ is a good state to live in NJCher Jul 2023 #45
I have traveled through many times. former9thward Jul 2023 #47
yeah, I thought that too NJCher Jul 2023 #83
Look, I am not a state basher. former9thward Jul 2023 #84
I lived there for years & agree that NJ is massively underrated whathehell Jul 2023 #72
I see Chris Christie has resurfaced. I thought we were done with him. But no... CTyankee Jul 2023 #79
It's hard to see Christie the way I once saw him whathehell Jul 2023 #81
The bridge thing was just ugly and it reflected badly on Christie. It was cheesy politics and lots CTyankee Jul 2023 #82
Oh yes, I agree.. whathehell Jul 2023 #85
The older I get, the more I appreciate the "just make the government work for people" idea we have CTyankee Jul 2023 #86
My sentiments exactly.. whathehell Jul 2023 #87
One of the prettiest towns in CT! I was there when I was working at Planned Parenthood of CTyankee Jul 2023 #88
It IS pretty! whathehell Jul 2023 #89
It's the only state in the US I'd ever live in... róisín_dubh Jul 2023 #73
+ it's close to NYC! Duppers Jul 2023 #80
Very ironic picture they have for their pick of #1 Vermont. former9thward Jul 2023 #31
Not really. Kingofalldems Jul 2023 #52
Yep! Pretty happy up here in Oregon. calimary Jul 2023 #61
Each of the states on this list has one disadvantage they didn't list cannabis_flower Jul 2023 #68
Oregon is pretty mild Recycle_Guru Jul 2023 #76
Pleasantly surprised to find New Jersey on the list Rocknation Jul 2023 #70
Easy to explain - fake news my friends chicoescuela Jul 2023 #8
Thanks for the fake input StClone Jul 2023 #22
wrong. clearly backed up by CNBC doing this every year Recycle_Guru Jul 2023 #77
This message was self-deleted by its author lamp_shade Jul 2023 #9
Top states for business Tickle Jul 2023 #10
It is amazing to me how many people are leaving the top states for the bottom states. Chainfire Jul 2023 #12
We're number 10! We're number 10! rubbersole Jul 2023 #15
For Florida in particular, most of that is being driven by retired Boomers. Mariana Jul 2023 #51
I sure do not understand why anyone would live in florida. The Jungle 1 Jul 2023 #63
I dunno... people sure are flocking here to Texasgal Jul 2023 #11
I don't know either but bronxiteforever Jul 2023 #21
If people did what was good for them, they wouldn't vote Republican Clash City Rocker Jul 2023 #24
Austin is very Blue Texasgal Jul 2023 #34
Didn't the Texassistan Rethuglicans just give themselves the ability to overturn an election in OMGWTF Jul 2023 #42
That was just Houston, as far as I know. summer_in_TX Jul 2023 #58
My Mass. granddaughter thought it would be OK when her company moved her there...but she gave CTyankee Jul 2023 #78
Get the word out Johnny2X2X Jul 2023 #13
I certainly would have thought Mississippi would be on this list. LoisB Jul 2023 #16
hell yes, MS would have been my first guess for the shithole of shitholes title, it is a shambolic Celerity Jul 2023 #25
Mine too. It always seems to lead in the worst of everything. For the sake of the good people of LoisB Jul 2023 #39
It should be. zuul Jul 2023 #26
Don't feel bad, I was born in South Carolina (left when I was six) and it is #4. LoisB Jul 2023 #41
LOL! zuul Jul 2023 #50
Good grief! You win. LoisB Jul 2023 #53
As #11, it just missed the "top ten" cutoff. JHB Jul 2023 #71
No wonder I'm fucked up Cheezoholic Jul 2023 #17
The common theme appears to be related to wokeness in those states. Lucky Luciano Jul 2023 #18
I'm surprised W. Va. and Mississippi aren't on the list. House of Roberts Jul 2023 #19
WV is awful. Pretty (in spots), but awful róisín_dubh Jul 2023 #74
People think they'll save money on taxes IronLionZion Jul 2023 #20
I way too many friends in these states.... ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2023 #27
Yay! stage left Jul 2023 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Jul 2023 #30
Yeah, the Grits Belt. marble falls Jul 2023 #33
WHOA WHOA WHOA! Where is Mississippi? trof Jul 2023 #35
I know, I don't get it, either! ShazzieB Jul 2023 #54
we're number ten, we're number ten! Conjuay Jul 2023 #36
''CNBC is a liberal fake news outlet'', in 10, 9, 8, 7, ... n/t aggiesal Jul 2023 #37
I'm not surprised that Texas is #1. Lonestarblue Jul 2023 #38
Agreed...Yet people keep moving here Texasgal Jul 2023 #60
I'm a transplanted Washingtonian living in Oregon. mommymarine2003 Jul 2023 #40
I'm a native Washingtonian and part-time Californian who loves living on the Left Coast. OMGWTF Jul 2023 #43
I live on the Central Ca moonscape Jul 2023 #66
Would love to be in your shoes. Enjoy. shrike3 Jul 2023 #67
At least we know where to start sawing Artcatt Jul 2023 #44
I worked as a defense lawyer for a major insurance company for 30 years. Kath2 Jul 2023 #46
Who Needs NowISeetheLight Jul 2023 #48
Not Surprised NowISeetheLight Jul 2023 #49
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Jul 2023 #55
What CNBC considers weaknesses, the GOP considers strengths... progressoid Jul 2023 #56
Red State Mania! Blue Owl Jul 2023 #57
We are #1!!! Dustlawyer Jul 2023 #59
0. Mississippi eppur_se_muova Jul 2023 #62
Texas ... BlueWavePsych Jul 2023 #64
Indiana. Layzeebeaver Jul 2023 #69

Rebl2

(17,353 posts)
5. GOP
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 03:58 PM
Jul 2023

for sure. In my state many fundamentalist in rural areas. Some in large cities, but nothing like rural areas.

Clash City Rocker

(3,546 posts)
23. New Jersey is a great state to live in
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 05:21 PM
Jul 2023

It’s massively underrated because New York is massively overrated, and they need someone to look down on.

NJCher

(42,377 posts)
45. yes, NJ is a good state to live in
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 06:42 PM
Jul 2023

Did you ever live here?

How did you form your opinion?

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
47. I have traveled through many times.
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 06:48 PM
Jul 2023

Not the worst state but many on the "worst" states rank better in my book.

NJCher

(42,377 posts)
83. yeah, I thought that too
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 09:16 PM
Jul 2023

when I lived in CT and had driven through Jersey a few times.

If you just see the Turnpike and some of the urban areas (although Newark is now quite an attractive city), it looks compact, crowded. Then there are historical areas like where I live. I love driving past Edison's laboratory on my way to work. Within easy driving distance is Washington's headquarters.

My property is on a mountainside and I have a beautiful view of the NYC skyline. I live at the end of a dead end road and there is no traffic. My cat can go out and roam around without being run over in traffic. It is in the woods and very beautiful back here. Whenever I want to shop for anything, there are any number of good stores to choose from and within easy driving distance. I'm pretty sure it's still the highest paying state for teachers out of the 50 states.

And tomatoes grow beautifully here! We're the tomato state.

Progressive governor, Democrats control both houses. What more would one want?

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
84. Look, I am not a state basher.
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 09:53 PM
Jul 2023

There are wonderful aspects to all 50 states I'm sure. I have been in 48 of them and lived for an extended time in four of them (OR, AL, IL and AZ). I try and keep politics out of it because which party is in power in a state doesn't have much affect on people as far as their daily situation. When I lived in the South I found the people much friendlier than in other parts of the country. When I have visited the NE I have found the people not too friendly at all. Maybe just me?

whathehell

(30,335 posts)
72. I lived there for years & agree that NJ is massively underrated
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 01:32 PM
Jul 2023

likely for the reason you've given..I've always felt that New York was much overrated.



whathehell

(30,335 posts)
81. It's hard to see Christie the way I once saw him
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 03:59 PM
Jul 2023

because now, compared to the rest of the repugs, he actually looks good.

CTyankee

(67,759 posts)
82. The bridge thing was just ugly and it reflected badly on Christie. It was cheesy politics and lots
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 06:31 PM
Jul 2023

of people were affected. They were just trying to get to work.

whathehell

(30,335 posts)
85. Oh yes, I agree..
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 08:03 AM
Jul 2023

but, since Trump, that incident seems long ago and far away. I just like the way that he, In contrast to the other Republicans, has been calling out Trump

CTyankee

(67,759 posts)
86. The older I get, the more I appreciate the "just make the government work for people" idea we have
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 02:11 PM
Jul 2023

with Ned Lamont here in CT. No political stunts, no showing off. Nice and boring. No drama. I'm too damn old and tired. Thank you, Governor Lamont!

whathehell

(30,335 posts)
87. My sentiments exactly..
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 06:05 PM
Jul 2023

I am also too old and tired for the BS.

My sister, like me, a lifelong Democrat, lived in Connecticut for decades and loved it. She now lives in Washington DC, but her last place of residence in the state was Litchfield.

CTyankee

(67,759 posts)
88. One of the prettiest towns in CT! I was there when I was working at Planned Parenthood of
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 07:00 PM
Jul 2023

CT and we had some strong donors in Litchfield. I always thought it was such a pretty town!

whathehell

(30,335 posts)
89. It IS pretty!
Mon Jul 17, 2023, 07:35 PM
Jul 2023

She lived there about ten years, I think, until her husband died and she retired from the bench (she was a judge)...Prior to that she did live right outside of New Haven..I can't recall the name of the town, but I remember it being on Long Island Sound, on a street called Townsend.

róisín_dubh

(12,226 posts)
73. It's the only state in the US I'd ever live in...
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 01:42 PM
Jul 2023

If I ever lose my mind and decide to return to the US.
It has a governor who cares, there are relatively inexpensive places to live, there’s beautiful forests and beaches.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
31. Very ironic picture they have for their pick of #1 Vermont.
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 05:43 PM
Jul 2023

A couple in a boat paddling on a body of water. The whole state is flooding,

Kingofalldems

(40,023 posts)
52. Not really.
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 07:34 PM
Jul 2023

Natural disasters happen pretty much everywhere.

Does it bother you that Vermont is #1?

calimary

(88,935 posts)
61. Yep! Pretty happy up here in Oregon.
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 12:54 AM
Jul 2023

I saw a deer today! Second time in three days! A doe.

And then this evening, while it was still light enough to see, her mate wandered through, too! With his antlers on!

A double-lucky day!

cannabis_flower

(3,916 posts)
68. Each of the states on this list has one disadvantage they didn't list
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 10:17 AM
Jul 2023

….too fricken cold. At least for me.

Rocknation

(44,977 posts)
70. Pleasantly surprised to find New Jersey on the list
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 11:40 AM
Jul 2023

Last edited Sun Jul 16, 2023, 02:38 PM - Edit history (3)

AND among the top three!

Why? Well, I've long since nicknamed New Jersey the Unpretension Capitol Of The World: that's because though we've turned purple, we've NEVER turned red!


Rocknation

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Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
12. It is amazing to me how many people are leaving the top states for the bottom states.
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 04:38 PM
Jul 2023

Fascist Florida is the fastest growing state in the Union, so go figure...

rubbersole

(10,973 posts)
15. We're number 10! We're number 10!
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 04:47 PM
Jul 2023

But just give us time. desantis has more nazi shit up his sleeve. Why, it's time to call all vaccines biological weapons. That's the ticket.

Mariana

(15,613 posts)
51. For Florida in particular, most of that is being driven by retired Boomers.
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 07:33 PM
Jul 2023

Retirement commuities like The Villages are growing like weeds.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
63. I sure do not understand why anyone would live in florida.
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 08:55 AM
Jul 2023

It is a stinking hot muggy arm pit. I certainly would not invest in real estate.

Texasgal

(17,235 posts)
11. I dunno... people sure are flocking here to
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 04:14 PM
Jul 2023

Austin, Tx though.

Personally, I wish they would stop. Our city is too damn full.

bronxiteforever

(11,069 posts)
21. I don't know either but
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 05:14 PM
Jul 2023

I can tell you my niece moved from Dallas to Minneapolis this year. She was extremely concerned about reproductive freedom and the way people handled COVID in Dallas. She is post graduate educated so she is aware of things. One story but who knows?

Texasgal

(17,235 posts)
34. Austin is very Blue
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 05:49 PM
Jul 2023

Always has been... we have the rest of Texas to deal with, mainly rural. UGH.

OMGWTF

(5,007 posts)
42. Didn't the Texassistan Rethuglicans just give themselves the ability to overturn an election in
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 06:20 PM
Jul 2023

the Dallas area which is home to a large number of Dems?

CTyankee

(67,759 posts)
78. My Mass. granddaughter thought it would be OK when her company moved her there...but she gave
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 02:15 PM
Jul 2023

up on it and is now in San Francisco. She has no patience for it, growing up in ultra liberal New England.

I am a 3rd generation Texan and I wouldn't back to TX for anything. I love living in CT where I don't feel like I'm fighting all the time for just basic government programs that work for people. We're old and need all the help we can get and the state of CT gets that. If that's socialism, well tough shit.

Johnny2X2X

(23,671 posts)
13. Get the word out
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 04:45 PM
Jul 2023

All we ever hear about in the media is California and Chicago and their problems, but it’s never mentioned that the higher poverty and crime states are red states.

Celerity

(53,589 posts)
25. hell yes, MS would have been my first guess for the shithole of shitholes title, it is a shambolic
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 05:29 PM
Jul 2023

mess at every level, basically a 3rd world country for a huge number of people there

LoisB

(12,304 posts)
39. Mine too. It always seems to lead in the worst of everything. For the sake of the good people of
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 06:13 PM
Jul 2023

MS, I hope there is something good about it.

zuul

(14,703 posts)
26. It should be.
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 05:31 PM
Jul 2023

And I’m not just being a leftist snob. I grew up there and some of my family members are still there. Mississippi almost always ranks dead last in any type of ‘quality of life’ list.

But I live next door in Louisiana. And we’re Number Three! Yay!

zuul

(14,703 posts)
50. LOL!
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 06:58 PM
Jul 2023

I won the trifecta of shithole states:

Born in Alabama.

Reared and educated in Mississippi (yes, there are colleges and universities there.)

Now live in Louisiana.

Check check and check!

róisín_dubh

(12,226 posts)
74. WV is awful. Pretty (in spots), but awful
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 01:43 PM
Jul 2023

Loved there for 10 years and left at every opportunity. I hated that place and I can’t wait to never have to step foot there again.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,580 posts)
27. I way too many friends in these states....
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 05:31 PM
Jul 2023

As I am sure as they read this article, they will see that this is true.

Republican Governors in each of these states who do not give a tiknker's cuss about the people, but sure as hell want them to keep voting for them none the less.

stage left

(3,195 posts)
29. Yay!
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 05:38 PM
Jul 2023

We're number four! And yet people from blue states keep moving here. Wait...maybe if we got enough people from blue states who actually vote blue...A girl can dream can dream, can't she?

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trof

(54,274 posts)
35. WHOA WHOA WHOA! Where is Mississippi?
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 05:54 PM
Jul 2023

Alabama's brag is always "We're # 49 (in whatever list of best to worst) but MISSISSIPPI IS # 50!"

Lonestarblue

(13,209 posts)
38. I'm not surprised that Texas is #1.
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 06:08 PM
Jul 2023

Abbott and his merry band of Republican haters have turned the state into one in service only to the rich. High property taxes, high insurance rates in some areas due to fire hazards for draught that climate warming exacerbates, no medical care for millions, high cost of homes, and constant attacks on personal rights, crowded roads because public transportation is limited and not favored by oil billionaires who want more cares on the roads using gas, poor utility grid because of a resistance to any regulation.

mommymarine2003

(344 posts)
40. I'm a transplanted Washingtonian living in Oregon.
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 06:14 PM
Jul 2023

I love the Pacific Northwest. No wonder we are in the top 10. Other than an occasional earthquake or volcanic eruption, we have a fantastic climate. Both states have Democratic governors and senators. I live a few minutes from the Columbia Gorge and drove to Hood River for lunch today. The scenery is fantastic. I feel very lucky.

moonscape

(5,633 posts)
66. I live on the Central Ca
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 09:51 AM
Jul 2023

coast and considering a move to the Seattle/Puget Sound area. My only concern is the meaningfully below average # of days with sun, when I live where we are way above average. Reported cases of depression from that give me pause when I have a smidge of SAD.

Kath2

(3,174 posts)
46. I worked as a defense lawyer for a major insurance company for 30 years.
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 06:45 PM
Jul 2023

In Maryland. It sucked. Three years after retirement I am realizing how bad it sucked. At this point, I don't know how in the hell I put up with all of those hours, all of that shit, and still took care of three children. The problem was not Maryland, it was the company in my case.

NowISeetheLight

(4,002 posts)
48. Who Needs
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 06:49 PM
Jul 2023

Healthcare, schooling, livable wages, etc. People who want stuff like this are snowflakes?

progressoid

(52,539 posts)
56. What CNBC considers weaknesses, the GOP considers strengths...
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 09:29 PM
Jul 2023

Reproductive Rights, Health, Voting Rights, Worker Protections, Inclusiveness

Dustlawyer

(10,536 posts)
59. We are #1!!!
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 11:16 PM
Jul 2023

This is what happens when you vote Republican year after year! We used to be #1 go business but the low quality of life keeps them from attracting the best workers.

Layzeebeaver

(2,151 posts)
69. Indiana.
Sun Jul 16, 2023, 11:16 AM
Jul 2023

Wtf.

I can see it’s Missouri because they are crazy up there.

Oh wait… so is Indiana.

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