Tuberville's tales about his father in World War II have false elements

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

“My father, Charles Tuberville, made the D-Day landing at Normandy as a tank commander with the 101st infantry. He served with honor during World War II, earning five Bronze Stars and a Purple Heart.”

— Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.), in a tweet posted with a Fox News interview, June 6

“He lied about his age at 16, joined the Army.”


— Tuberville, in the Fox interview

“He was a tank commander with the 101st Infantry and landed at Normandy Beach on D-Day and drove a tank through the streets of Paris when the U.S. forces liberated the city.”

— Tuberville, on the archived website of the Tommy Tuberville Foundation

For nearly a decade, Tuberville has described the World War II exploits of his father, Charles R. Tuberville Jr., in a relatively consistent way — that he was a tank commander, that he earned five Bronze Stars, that he participated in the D-Day landing and that he lied about his age to join the army. News organizations have tended to accept Tuberville’s version and either reprint or broadcast it.

Yet an examination of army histories, newspaper reports and other materials calls into question many of the claims put forth by Tuberville,

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In effect, Tuberville has promoted his father to highly decorated tank commander — but based on our research, that claim is dubious.

Joined the military at 16
This is false. Charles Tuberville, who was born in 1925, turned 16 five months before the United States entered World War II because of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. His draft registration card (front and back) shows he submitted it on July 16, 1943 — his 18th birthday.

Tank commander
This is dubious. Charles Tuberville’s tombstone lists his highest rank as “TEC 5” or technician fifth grade, an Army rank at the time that indicated technical skills but not combat leadership. According to a 1944 Army memo, TEC 5 jobs were limited to armorer, cook, tank driver, light truck driver or tank mechanic. Tuberville would have needed to be a sergeant to be a tank commander.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tuberville-s-tales-about-his-father-in-world-war-ii-have-false-elements/ar-AA1emFfL

[Bettie]

1. I'm shocked, shocked, I say

A Republican lying?

OH, wait, not all that shocked.

[PCIntern]

2. Wait...whut ...?

You mean…you need CREDENTIALS to have a command of a tank? Tommy doesn’t need any stinking credentials and he’s a senator.

Second point is: you can’t just make up shit about people’s military rank and duties. It is all recorded somewhere. It’s not like one of those apocryphal bar stories where you picked up the best looking woman and fended off three of her suitors with a broken beer bottle, took her back And pleasured her all night.

Sorry, Tommy, none of those stories are true about you or your family.

[gordianot]

3. The 101 was a Regiment and not a Division.

They were originally a NationalGuard unit in Massachusetts during World War II. What a load of of crap he must have also been a Navy Seal.

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9. I think Tuberville exaggerated some things and is a bit confused...

as there was the famed 101st Airborne Division in WWll. They did drop on D-Day on Utah Beach but later fought in the Netherlands, not Paris. It's now an air assault division that no longer parachutes into war zones but rappels from helicopters.

And you're right about the 101st Infantry, it was a regiment.

[gordianot]

10. Yes it is easy to confuse 101 st Airborne Division did not have tanks.

The 101 Regiment was not in Europe on D-Day.

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11. Yep, pretty hard to air drop tanks.

[gordianot]

12. When they came up with the Sheridan an aluminum tank in the 60's it was a disaster.

Tommy should have stuck with Football.

[brush]

13. An aluminum tank? Are you kidding? I have to google that.

[gordianot]

19. It was a Cadillac no less.

[Javaman]

4. tuberville is an offshoot of the false patriots.

the false patriots claim this and that about serving in the military but usually, it's all complete and utter bullshit or they did serve but certainly not in the capacity they brag about.

tuberville inflates his dad's actual service to pump up his own image.

in other words, he's a piece of shit.

[keithbvadu2]

5. Stolen valor

[jimfields33]

7. Only the father could be up for stolen valor

The son can say it is family folklore. It’s been done dozens of times in political history

[former9thward]

14. People who landed at D-Day do not have "stolen valor" by definition.

No matter what they did there.

[Botany]

6. "He was a tank commander and landed at Normandy Beach on D-Day and drove a tank ...

.... through the streets of Paris when the U.S. forces liberated the city.”

Please what a liar. Setting aside his claims of his father being a commander less then a year or so
after enlisting but the landings where @ Normandy and ” the beaches” were Omaha, Utah, Gold, Sword,
and Juneau. And I think Ike let the French under de Gaulle lead the liberation of Paris.

[former9thward]

15. De Gaulle came after the Americans liberated the city.

A French regiment defying American orders got into the city first. The main American forces came in and liberated the entire city.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_of_Paris#:~:text=At%203%3A30%20p.m.%20on,as%20Montlh%C3%A9ry%2C%20into%20central%20Paris.

Is the Army questioning whether the father was at D-Day? They know who was there.

[Botany]

21. I was referring to the parade in Paris after it was liberated and I think De Gaulle was in the ...

... front of that parade.

[edhopper]

8. My father was in the Europe theater

he landed a few weeks after Normandy and was part of the push through to Germany. Infantry and prisoner guard.

He served with honor.

I never served, so I would not bring up my fathers service to prove my patriotism like Tuberville is doing. Especially if I were wrecking havoc on the military for political gain like he is.

Chickenshit Hawk.

[MineralMan]

16. My father was a WWII B-17 bomber pilot.

I have his service record on file at my house. I have photos. He married my mother in Louisiana at his last base before being shipped out to Europe, where he flew bombing missions out of Foggia, Italy, in 1944 and 1945. I was born 9 months after he shipped out. I can almost pinpoint the date of my conception. When he came back to the USA, he met me three months after I was born.

All of that is clearly documented. However, his service has nothing to do with my personal integrity, other than his being my father. I have my own service record, which is not even close to being as impressive. I stand on my own service record in the USAF, not on my father's heroic service in the USAAF.

Tuberville is a scoundrel and a coward!

[Buns_of_Fire]

17. Sounds like Tubes is trying to tell the military how much

he's almost like one of them, once-removed. This, of course, is the same military he's currently single-handedly screwing up the promotions in.

[Silent Type]

18. Tuberville can eat chit. But, I think those are pretty minor mistatements and something a son might

not know the exact details of his service.

His dad sounds like a hero -- whether joining at 16 or 18, tank commander or mechanic -- unlike his worthless son.

[MagickMuffin]

20. Shhhh, Does Tommy know his dad was ANTIFA?

Tommy would probably disown his daddy if he knew the truth, Daddy was fighting against fascism!

[mitch96]

23. +1, now THAT is a hoot!!! nt

[Jilly_in_VA]

22. Lying liars

and the lies they tell. Is anyone really surprised?