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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsofficially freaked out now
not only about Grayson P. Wolfe (ex-husband of Jill Kelley's sister)
but now his father Paul G. Wolfe (homeland security, electronic surviellance, WAY over my spinning head)
Electronic Warfare Associates Inc
ST-ISAC Surface Transportation Information Sharing & Analysis Center
http://www.zoominfo.com/#!search/profile/person?personId=179426614&targetid=profile
http://www.ewa-iit.com/content.asp?sectionID=48&contentID=153
Ms. Marple@Oenissem
Jill Kelley sis Natalie Khawam ex husband Grayson Wolfe. Check out his father..Paul Grayson Wolfe http://www.zoominfo.com/#!search/profile/person?personId=179426614&targetid=profile
http://www.ewa-iit.com/content.asp?sectionID=48&contentID=153
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)yourout
(7,543 posts)this whole mess should have it's own Wiki page.
Springslips
(533 posts)This thing should have its own Wiki site.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)LOL Gawd yes, Go do it!
TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)...
TYY
kentuck
(111,111 posts)....
dem4ward
(323 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)of elite sex-service service?
Not sure I'd call it a brothel or even escorts - more like matching up horny generals with gold-digging, attractive women.
Horse with no Name
(33,959 posts)But that is just my gut feeling.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)aletier_v
(1,773 posts)HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)flamingdem
(39,354 posts)with all those connections
MADem
(135,425 posts)Berlum
(7,044 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Now this is some strange shit.
Wtf is going on?
Horse with no Name
(33,959 posts)I think the idea is worth entertaining....but have to wonder who would have brought it down?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Actually. At this point I am. That is worst case, best case, really broken upper echellon of the military.
Horse with no Name
(33,959 posts)I also wonder if these are the people that were responsible for the missing billions in Iraq..
flamingdem
(39,354 posts)they are broke with all these players around.
Horse with no Name
(33,959 posts)and they started their spending spree early.
Another report said that Kelley was a liaison between Central Command and Middle Eastern government officials as well as being a party planner for Ft. MacDill.
There is just something that isn't sitting right.
HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)Even with the cover as a Dr's wife, drugs, clothes, trips, botox, and fake boobs are expensive. Oh and don't forget a whopping $350,000 fine for the twin.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)And the army, and ladies of the night.
Horse with no Name
(33,959 posts)Wow...good catch.
blogslut
(38,044 posts)My bad. I was confusing Paul Wolfe with Paul Wolfowitz.
flamingdem
(39,354 posts)in Afganistan, maybe this all breaks down into money scandals, what happened to all that $$
Now with several players having access to communications, including Wolfe, what can they bribe each other with? Miltary-repuke firing squad?
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)Religion has no meaning to these slime turkeys. That it appears they have been sucking $$$ from tax payer dollars really honks me off.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)2naSalit
(87,234 posts)Has been trying to play the whole thing down now. I think the Rs have been shown some mercy here so they don't go bonkers, more than they already are. But I still think that something big was in the works and was thwarted and that is why the whole clan was so stunned when they had their asses handed to them Tuesday night. All the voter suppression and other filthy tricks and they still lost... AZ still has over 34,000 provisional votes yet to count by Friday. Sad thing, the state decided not to officially enroll all the newly registered voters so now the election is still in limbo. They seem to be counting all of about 18,000 a day. Yikes.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)radhika
(1,008 posts)Irrelevant perhaps, but provocative to contemplate the existence of an elite sex bring-down ring, tied to deep pocket contractors. I'm getting totally carried away, of course.
I also get a Heidi Fleiss vibe from Kelley.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/wp/2012/11/13/for-charlotte-neighbors-paula-broadwell-and-rielle-hunter-the-spotlights-intense/
pnwest
(3,267 posts)what it is about her! Totally Heidi Fleiss, I get that from her, too!
Heidi Fleiss
Berlum
(7,044 posts)Berlum
(7,044 posts)JanMichael
(24,919 posts)We are familiar with the area; my wife grew up there. The Broadwells live in Dilworth, and Rielle Hunter lives about 3 miles away in a completely separate neighborhood.
The news is all over this as if they live blocks from each other; they do not.
In Charlotte, most of the money is just South of downtown, with some smaller neighborhoods around those. There is this "triangle" where people who want to stay in Charlotte, and for a long time, live....as opposed to the university area, etc.
Nothing shocking at all about the locations.
starroute
(12,977 posts)European Security:
What are the Right Questions?
Paul G. Wolfe
U.S. Army War College, 1996 - 60 pages
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)LOL the title, the title..
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,131 posts)is unraveling like a cheap suit....
Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)try to keep up ok...
Other man wanna be FBI agent sends other other woman pics of his hairy chest.
Other other woman gets leave my man and my other man alone email from Genl Peterlus other woman.
Other other woman calls on other man wanna be agent for help getting the other woman off her back.
Other other woman is able to get a full scale FBI investigation launched on a private citizen by its elite cyber intelligence unit.
Other woman found to have a romantic tryst with Genl Peterlus and discovers other other woman.
Other other woman is hostess extraordinaire to high level military including Genl Peterlus and the other other woman other other military man Genl All-in Johnston.
Other woman also knows about other other womans dealings with Genl other other man and sends email you better leave all my Generals alone
FBI finds nothing but a girls gone wild, but nooooo, agent other man wanna be wants to do more than just send pics of his chest.
Agent other man wanna be has ulterior political motives and involves high level Repub in Congress.
High level Repub says to agent other man wanna be, Why the fuck you telling me this shit for???!!! Dont you see me in the middle of my own fucking campaign? Dont you know Peterlus is one of ours? You fucking idiot! You were so eager to pin this on PBO you exposed one of our best guys!!! Get the fuck outta my face you agent other man wanna be!!!!
Enter stage right; other man Genl All-in Johnston, not to be outdone in having a biography done by a young woman, submits his own 30,000 page bio to the other other woman for her review.
Other woman and Genl Peterlus are called in and told they are in deep poo poo.
Other woman husband cancels other womans 40th birthday celebration.
Genl Peterlus cancels his career.
Genl All-in Johnston cancels his promotion.
Other woman lives in same block as Presidential hopefuls other woman.
Other womans book climbs steadily in sales on the best seller list.
Other other woman has book deal offers in the making.
whew...
Courtesy of theobamadairy
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Freak show of horrors theatre in the round!
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)bunker.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Couldn't believe it when I learned about it in H.S.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)on the OP thingy idea.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)"Tetradittoes" sounds good but what does it mean? I googled it and you are the only one using that great made up word.
Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)or several layers of dittos.
BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)The back/under story is about genls gone wild with military contractors and private companies wanting to cash in the war and other people's misery.
Raksha
(7,167 posts)or just the outline?
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Dusty Foggo, Wade, Ward and that bunch, recall? Other corrupt stuff went along with it like WMD intel falsification and domestic spying. This is nothing new, except maybe that the WH is pushing back a bit harder this time. Maybe.
SweetieD
(1,660 posts)unto itself even without all of the other drama.
They obviously knew Grayson Wolfe. He was a Bush appointee to some national bank in Afghanistan in 2002. And now its' pretty obvious they would've known Grayson's dad too, probably well. Something had to have happened to make them want to give testimony against him in this custody battle and for Kelley's sister. Why would Allen and Patraeus give testimony against Grayson? Why would they take any one person's side? Why are they giving testimony period in a domestic dispute?
anobserver2
(836 posts)Extremely weird.
starroute
(12,977 posts)May 1, 2002
The Foundation for the Defense of Democracies is prepared to send a team of impartial, professional investigators to assist with fact-finding in regard to the fighting that occurred last month in Jenin.
This team has the military background and qualifications to determine what really happened on the ground in Jenin, said Jack Kemp, Chairman of the Board of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies. Serious allegations have been made. Those allegations should be looked into by investigators who have both technical expertise and relevant experience. And no investigation can be complete without an international inquiry into the massacre at Netanya and similar terrorist atrocities.
A five-man team assembled by Electronic Warfare Associates Information and Infrastructure Technologies Inc. (www.ewa.com) is prepared to conduct all aspects of the fact-finding mission. EWA IIT specializes in military intelligence, operational security and vulnerability assessments. Paul G. Wolfe, program director for EWA IIT, will serve as Team Leader. Wolfe is a retired US Army Intelligence and Special Operations Officer.
http://www.rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/foundation_for_defense_of_democracies
Founded in the wake of the 9/11 attacks with the apparent goal of pushing the United States to undertake an aggressive war on terror in the Middle East, the Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD) is a neoconservative think tank based in Washington, D.C. that claims to defend democratic countries from the purportedly existential threat posed by radical Islamism. Describing itself as a nonpartisan policy institute dedicated exclusively to promoting pluralism, defending democratic values, and fighting the ideologies that threaten democracy, the organization declares on its website that a global war is being waged against democratic societies. While the military fights with arms, the Foundation for Defense of Democracies fights with ideas. We fight militant Islamism and other anti-democratic forces with information, policy research, investigative journalism, strategic communications, and democracy and counterterrorism education.
FDD is one of several hawkish pressure groups founded in the wake of 9/11 that helped build support for the U.S. military intervention in Iraq and other war on terror policies. Similar groups included the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, the Committee on the Present Danger (which FDD later took over), and Americans for Victory over Terrorism. Shortly after its founding, FDD quickly developed into a prominent member of the group of neoconservative-aligned think tanks and advocacy groupsincluding the American Enterprise Institute and the Hudson Institutethat were influential in shaping the early foreign policy priorities of the George W. Bush administration.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Jenin
The Battle of Jenin (April 111, 2002) took place in the Jenin refugee camp in the West Bank. Israel Defense Forces (IDF) entered the camp, and other areas under the administration of the Palestinian Authority, during the Second Intifada, as part of Operation Defensive Shield. The Jenin camp was targeted after Israel alleged that it had "served as a launch site for numerous terrorist attacks against both Israeli civilians and Israeli towns and villages in the area."
The IDF employed infantry, commando forces, and assault helicopters. Palestinian militants had prepared for a fight, booby trapping the camp, and after an Israeli column walked into an ambush, the army began to rely more heavily on the use of armored bulldozers to clear out booby traps laid inside the camp. On April 11, Palestinian militants began to surrender. Israeli troops began withdrawing from the camp on April 18.
Jenin remained sealed throughout the invasion and claims of a massacre were circulated in the mass media by Palestinian officials. Stories of hundreds or thousands of civilians being killed in their homes as they were demolished spread throughout international media.[10] Subsequent investigations found no evidence to substantiate claims of a massacre, and official totals from Palestinian and Israeli sources confirmed between 52 and 54 Palestinians, mostly gunmen, and 23 IDF soldiers as having been killed in the fighting.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Basically, the neocons want the US to fight Saudi Arabia and Israel's wars for them.
Those pushing ever deeper US involvement in the quagmire of the Middle East present the greatest threat to US national security.
starroute
(12,977 posts)I've been wondering for some years about the alliance between the Neocons and the military-industrial complex -- but it's becoming clear now that the common element is seeing intervention in the Middle East as a source of profit.
The Neocons are not so much pro-Israel as they are pro-free market. Islam is resistant to the free market ideology, so they see US invasion as a means of overturning that reluctance and bringing the backwards natives the blessings of free market capitalism. That's what the CPA office that Grayson Wolfe was part of was all about.
Many of the Neocons (as well as their more standard-issue GOP allies) also see US intervention as a source of personal enrichment. Check out the doings of Feith and Perle -- or for that matter, the involvement of Haley Barbour's circle in New Bridge Strategies.
And there are also wealthy Middle Easterners who are part of the free market push -- particularly Lebanese Maronite Christians (like the Khawams), who have been investing heavily in Iraq and particularly in the Kurdish region.
Finally, add in the military-industrial complex, and particularly the retired generals who wind up as well-paid lobbyists for government contractors, or as Pentagon pundits pushing for war on Fox News, and you get the third leg of the tripod.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)they want to ultimately farm off to us, the most powerful Infidel mercenaries presently available. We, the Saudis, the Qatar's, Turks, and Israelis are initially giving Sunni Jihadis from across the MENA a chance to kill as many Alawites in Syria (and themselves) as possible on the ground. The really heavy lifting, overturning nation states, remains our job.
Then, comes the next step being urged by the neocons and the Saudi-supported think tanks and media. Destroy what's left of Syria from the air. That task probably can be accomplished in a year or so of heavy bombing to provide "humanitarian" cover for a safe area along the Turkish border. Then comes the ethnic cleansing of non-Sunni urban areas along the coast, just like Kosovo.
Finally, as on 9/11/01 after Bosnia and Kosovo, the Saudi-supported Jihadis will simply turn on us, which is what they really wanted to do begin with. We'll attack the wrong enemy, again, overextending our last vestiges of Imperial power in a bloody showdown with Iran, just like the last time with Iraq, only bigger. No more Last Rogue Superpower problem. No more Iran problem. The Caliphate rises again. Osama's dream is fulfilled.
starroute
(12,977 posts)Woolsey is a former CIA director (1993-95), one of the most high-profile non-Jewish Neocons, someone who has personally profited off the Iraq War, and currently chairman of Foundation for the Defense of Democracies. I strongly suspect that he may be Petraeus's role model.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._James_Woolsey,_Jr.
Woolsey is the chairman of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. He is currently a member of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP) Board of Advisors, Advisor of the Institute for the Analysis of Global Security, co-founder of the United States Energy Security Council, Founding Member of the Set America Free Coalition, and a Senior Vice President at Booz Allen Hamilton for Global Strategic Security (since July 15, 2002). . . .
Woolsey is also a member of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) and was one of the signatories to the January 26, 1998 letter sent to President Clinton that called for the removal of Saddam Hussein. That same year he served on the Rumsfeld Commission, which investigated the threat of ballistic missiles for the US Congress.
Within hours of the September 11 attacks, Woolsey appeared on television suggesting Iraqi complicity. In September 2002, as Congress was deliberating authorizing President Bush to use force against Iraq, Woolsey told The Wall Street Journal that he believed that Iraq was also connected to the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building and the bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993. . . .
Steve Clemons, a senior fellow at the New America Foundation think tank, has accused Woolsey of both profiting from and promoting the Iraq War. Melvin A. Goodman, senior fellow at the Center for International Policy and former CIA division chief, told the Washington Post that "
Woolsey was a disaster as CIA director in the 1990s and is now running around this country calling for a World War IV to deal with the Islamic problem."
http://www.rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/woolsey_james
R. James Woolsey, the director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) under President Bill Clinton during 1993-1995, is an advocate of a militarist U.S. foreign policy who has supported the work of several neoconservative-led interest groups, including the Committee on the Present Danger, the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, the Project for the New American Century, and the Center for Security Policy, among numerous other groups. In March 2011, Woolsey was named chair of the board of directors for the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, an important bastion of hawkish pro-Israel advocacy in the United States that has served as an outpost for many well known rightist ideologues.
Woolsey is also a frequent consultant and advisor to private businesses, as well as government boards and panels. A former vice president of Booz Allen Hamilton, a Pentagon contractor, and partner at the high-profile D.C. law firm Shea and Gardner, Woolseys experience includes serving as chair of his firm Woolsey Partners, serving as venture partner and senior advisor to VantagePoint Venture Partners, chairing an advisory group of the private equity fund Paladin Capital Group, and serving as counsel to the law firm Goodwin Procter.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)This is the kind of meat that really matters - the Petraeus affair may rip the veil off a whole shitload of other stuff that's been simmering.
K&R for these posts. eye opening stuff.
starroute
(12,977 posts)I want to emphasize again that I'm not saying any of these people are directly tied in with Woolsey -- just that he's the poster child for how the system of interlocking military, intelligence, and profit-oriented interests works.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0511-07.htm
Published on Sunday, May 11, 2003 by the Observer/UK
Bush Ally Set to Profit from the War on Terror
James Woolsey, former CIA boss and influential adviser to President George Bush, is a director of a US firm aiming to make millions of dollars from the 'war on terror', The Observer can reveal.
Woolsey, one of the most high-profile hawks in the war against Iraq and a key member of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board, is a director of the Washington-based private equity firm Paladin Capital. The company was set up three months after the terrorist attacks on New York and sees the events and aftermath of September 11 as a business opportunity which 'offer[s] substantial promise for homeland security investment'. . . .
The involvement of one of the most prominent hawks in Washington with a company standing to cash in on the fear of potential terror attacks will raise eyebrows in some quarters.
In 2001 US Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz sent Woolsey to Europe, where he argued the case for links existing between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda. He was one of the main proponents of the theory that the anthrax letter attacks in America were supported by Iraq's former dictator.
http://articles.latimes.com/2004/jul/14/nation/na-advocates14
Advocates of War Now Profit From Iraq's Reconstruction
July 14, 2004
Former CIA Director R. James Woolsey is a prominent example of the phenomenon, mixing his business interests with what he contends are the country's strategic interests. He left the CIA in 1995, but he remains a senior government advisor on intelligence and national security issues, including Iraq. Meanwhile, he works for two private companies that do business in Iraq and is a partner in a company that invests in firms that provide security and anti-terrorism services.
Woolsey said in an interview that he was not directly involved with the companies' Iraq-related ventures. But as a vice president of Booz Allen Hamilton, a consulting firm, he was a featured speaker in May 2003 at a conference co-sponsored by the company at which about 80 corporate executives and others paid up to $1,100 to hear about the economic outlook and business opportunities in Iraq.
Before the war, Woolsey was a founding member of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, an organization set up in 2002 at the request of the White House to help build public backing for war in Iraq. He also wrote about a need for regime change and sat on the CIA advisory board and the Defense Policy Board, whose unpaid members have provided advice on Iraq and other matters to Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld.
Woolsey is part of a small group that shows with unusual clarity the interlocking nature of the way the insider system can work. Moving in the same social circles, often sitting together on government panels and working with like-minded think tanks and advocacy groups, they wrote letters to the White House urging military action in Iraq, formed organizations that pressed for invasion and pushed legislation that authorized aid to exile groups.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)HAVE GUN, WILL PROFIT
"Where roam? Why with the occult Republican Christo-Fascist War Profiteer & Sex Cabal, of course." - Paladin (R)
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lexw
(804 posts)...and Hollywood got me thinking something under-handed was /is going on here.
Maybe someone found a weak link in the system.
Scary stuff.
I guess movies can do that.
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)Either cite your freak out authorization code, or delete this post immediately.
It is getting damned bizarre, isn't it? I am not so much freaked out, but awed at the incompetence at all levels, all the way down to the media reporting it.
It really is the Kardashians all over again.
Like your post.
R&K
anobserver2
(836 posts)Because all the press keeps reporting is that Jill Kelley's father was the owner of SARAHA restaurants.
Maybe there was some electronic spying going on in those restaurants? Thinking of NYC restaurants and what goes
on sometimes in Little Italy...
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)I wonder when that will be leaked out.
With idgits like these people, we don't need Anonymous to tell us what is going on in Afghanistan or in the CIA.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)Because they do it in broad daylight and dare us to do something about it.
It was nice to have the documents though, to shut up all the people who used to say "but we have no evidence for that, so we can't accuse them of it!"