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OKIsItJustMe

(21,709 posts)
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 10:14 AM Aug 2023

Can you spot the temperature difference between Summer in the North and Winter in the South?

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Can you spot the temperature difference between Summer in the North and Winter in the South? (Original Post) OKIsItJustMe Aug 2023 OP
North of the equator? South America? Croney Aug 2023 #1
The hottest areas will be first to become uninhabitable. roamer65 Aug 2023 #2
Back in the 1970's the very first attempts at planetary climate models localroger Aug 2023 #6
... roamer65 Aug 2023 #7
... roamer65 Aug 2023 #8
I read something here on DU MyMission Aug 2023 #3
See Also OKIsItJustMe Aug 2023 #4
Thanks for posting this MyMission Aug 2023 #9
The impact on food is my go to when dealing with climate skeptics. NutmegYankee Aug 2023 #5
Food and water; famine and drought bring catastrophic consequences MyMission Aug 2023 #10

roamer65

(37,817 posts)
2. The hottest areas will be first to become uninhabitable.
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 10:31 AM
Aug 2023

By 2070, that will be most of the Middle East and India.

localroger

(3,776 posts)
6. Back in the 1970's the very first attempts at planetary climate models
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 11:34 AM
Aug 2023

...showed that the beginning of the end of a world dying of runaway climate was a global equatorial desert, which would spread to encompass the whole planet.

MyMission

(2,008 posts)
3. I read something here on DU
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 10:46 AM
Aug 2023

There was an article yesterday about how the South American winter is looking more like summer. It's very disturbing, and I suspect it will effect food production, since many fruit trees need winter cold and to produce a good yield in spring and summer.
And many extreme weather patterns we see are causing problems. High heat, early blooms, late frosts, heavy rains, etc in many places can really disrupt our food supplies, in addition to our health and ways of life. I live in the south and the peach crop was hurt this year due to a number of environmental factors. Sure, there are good years and bad years in farming, always have been, but climate change adds to that in a big way.

I remember learning about the greenhouse effect on the early 70's (I don't think they were using the term global warming then), and I was struck by the description that it would manifest as a flattening of the seasons, extreme cold and extreme heat. The overall outcome is global warming, but the seasonal patterns are messed up, and have been moving in a bad direction for decades. The image you posted is very strong. Here's the post from yesterday.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/12327726

MyMission

(2,008 posts)
9. Thanks for posting this
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 06:48 PM
Aug 2023

It's important to share this information. Too many want to ignore and have been ignoring the signs, although more and more places are affected by this and many are realizing how serious this is.

Sometimes I think it's the Earth's way of getting rid of the parasite that is humankind, even though we humans have largely brought this on ourselves. A friend gave me a perspective when we both worked for Greenpeace 35 years ago. If we nuke ourselves, life will go on, maybe not human life as we know it, but mutations and resilience will let the planet survive. In my 20's I got a bit of comfort from that thought; but in my 60's I'm seeing the changes and the real potential for serious problems, mass extinction due to climate changes, including wars over land and resources.
Not a promising outcome.

NutmegYankee

(16,457 posts)
5. The impact on food is my go to when dealing with climate skeptics.
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 11:10 AM
Aug 2023

They can comment about changes millions of years ago, but there weren’t 8 billion humans reliant on agriculture back then. We could face catastrophic consequences in just a few decades.

MyMission

(2,008 posts)
10. Food and water; famine and drought bring catastrophic consequences
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 07:00 PM
Aug 2023

Drought and deluge affect both the food and water supply. We will need more water as temperatures rise. It's important to stay hydrated, we can survive longer without food than without water, but we need both. I may live another 20-30 years, but to see extreme events happening now does not bode well for the future.

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