Pence Says He's 'Deeply Offended' By Vivek Ramaswamy's 9/11 'Truth' Claim

[Jilly_in_VA]

Former Vice President Mike Pence declared that he was “deeply offended” by “conspiracy theories” from Vivek Ramaswamy after his fellow GOP presidential candidate questioned the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Pence, in comments to New Hampshire’s Union Leader newspaper, slammed Ramaswamy for telling conservative Blaze TV’s Alex Stein that he doesn’t believe the government “has told us the truth” about the terror attacks and that he doesn’t believe the 9/11 Commission.

Pence said the 38-year-old Ramaswamy “was probably in grade school” on 9/11 while he was on Capitol Hill.

“I think comments like that, conspiracy theories like that, dishonor the service and sacrifice of our armed forces who fought against our enemies determined to kill us,” Pence said.

Ramaswamy, a biotech entrepreneur who has pledged to pardon Donald Trump if elected, said he had “no evidence to suggest” the moon landing was fake before answering Stein’s question on whether 9/11 “was an inside job or exactly what the government tells us.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mike-pence-9-11-vivek-ramaswamy_n_64d49834e4b0fa822c0dba28

Vivek is as nutty in his way as RFK Jr.

[bucolic_frolic]

1. Loonies are tools to disconnect voters' minds from logic, sanity, and reality

[Effete Snob]

5. Yep

It's easy to dismiss nutters as not having a lot of influence. But these kinds of things are like the welcome mats outside the door to some really destructive cultlike influences, e.g. Q, and the remnants of the Larouchies, Birchers etc.. It's not even a matter of right v. left, since they draw from across the spectrum.

That's a good way to put it, though, the nuttery is merely a tool to get people to disconnect and throw up their hands. They'll go on about things like the "uniparty" to suggest there is no point in engaging in ordinary politics, since there are secret powerful forces behind the curtain that control what only appear to be political options.

[JohnSJ]

2. Yes, Vivek is a nut case

[A HERETIC I AM]

3. A significant portion of the American electorate went batshit crazy when we elected a guy named...

Barack Hussein Obama.

Does anyone actually think those same people are going to elect a guy named Vivek Ramaswamy?

Yeah, he’s nuts alright and he doesn’t stand a chance in hell of ever being elected President, much less winning the Republican nomination.

[Sympthsical]

4. That could be taken a lot of ways

There are a lot of people on our side who think we weren't told everything about 9/11.

And I'm not talking about the inside job, fire doesn't melt steel beams, building seven demolition nuttery (although there are plenty of those people, too).

I just mean, details about Saudi funding, who knew what, just how much was known beforehand and ignored or let slide.

"The government isn't telling us everything" covers a lot of bases between batshit crazy and reasonable questions.

(For the record, my belief is government incompetence missed all of the warnings)

[The Magistrate]

7. A View I Am In Sympathy With

It's rather like the 'right track/wrong track' question on polls. Not every respondent means the same thing by their answer.

[Effete Snob]

8. "just how much was known beforehand and ignored or let slide"

The 9/11 Commission Report goes into quite a bit of that.

The W administration was distracted by stupid pet projects and wacky priorities to the detriment of paying attention to what was going on.

What impresses me about the various nutjob theories is the extent to which, by dismissing the 9/11 Commission as "the official story", they discourage people from taking a hard look at how much culpable malfeasance it actually documents.

One thing I don't understand is the way that people refer to "the Saudis" as if they are some kind of Borg-like hive mind of collective purpose. It's been pretty obvious in the way that bin Salman came to power and consolidated his position by jailing and killing his enemies (ultimately aided by Kushner), that there was not, and has not historically been, a single-faction "Saudi" agenda. But once we start talking about people whose skin tones get into non-Caucasian shades, it is harder for some people to see them as anything other than a collective "them" with no distinctions among them.

[tulipsandroses]

6. Nope. He has a snowball's chance in hell. Some of them entertain his foolishness

because he says the crazy and hateful shit they like. At the end of the day, he will just be another tool. He will be a raghead, mooslem, sand N…. Never good enough to be the overlord of white Christian people.

ETA: I know he’s not Muslim. But this is what RW idiots will say.

Pence should be just as outraged by RW conspiracies.

[czarjak]

9. Christian. Conservative. Republican.

Hoosier Daddy is a shining example of theological nitwitnessity. Righteousness to spare. The way Jesus likes it.