MI poll shows danger of Cornell West run

[WarGamer]

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/michigan/

8/1-2 Emerson has Biden v Trump at 44-44

But Add in Cornell West and it's Trump 43-41 and West with 4%

All hands on deck, we need a 2020-like turnout to win this thing...

GOTV

[dem4decades]

1. There's a reason Bannon is behind this. I hate that slob but he's treacherous.

[WarGamer]

2. What made me laugh...

In PA... DeSantis even lost to Kennedy by 4% and Biden by 9%... poor Ron.

[dem4decades]

3. The entire world knows he's a fake, except Florida. What are we going to do with those idiots?

[Initech]

24. Just like RFK Jr, it's an intel gathering operation to flip swing voters.

So far I'm glad no one is taking the bait, but we've definitely got to see past his evil schemes. There's too much at stake in this election, we cannot allow those scumbags to get what they want.

[mobeau69]

5. Doesn't he have some tax issues he should be dealing with?

BHO will need to have a sit down with him eventually.

[allegorical oracle]

17. Seems Cornel's philosophical about his IRS entanglements...

During a radio interview Monday, presumptive Green Party nominee Cornel West didn’t dispute that he owes half a million dollars in back taxes to the IRS.

The Daily Beast drew upon county clerk records in New Jersey and California to reveal that the IRS had repeatedly flagged West over back taxes, including for $85,477.02 from 2017, $136,916.26 from 2016, $82,396.14 from 2015, $98,818.25 from 2014, $62,367.69 from 2013, and $77,803.42 from 2005—all of which remain unresolved, according to the public records.

“Any time you shine a flashlight under somebody’s clothes, you’re gonna find all kind of mess, because that’s what it is to be human,” West asserted.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/cornel-west-calls-500k-tax-lien-a-distraction?ref=wrap

[ZonkerHarris]

20. lead with this and every taxpayer will not vote for him.

[betsuni]

25. That's rich. True things are a "distraction," hitting "below the belt" and flaws are only human.

Says the guy viciously lying about Democrats with ridiculous insults for many years: corrupt election-rigging "milquetoast neoliberal" elite warmongers yearning for "American Empire" WWIII who ignore the working/middle classes and on and on and on. Talk about distraction, below the belt, and demonizing liberals as not human.

[triron]

6. If American voters are this stupid they deserve a dictatorship.

[Silent3]

10. I don't deserve group punishment n/t

[triron]

18. Neither do I but I can't change that stupidity

And neither can you.

[Silent3]

21. Which is exactly why the word "deserve" doesn't work here

For the American public as a whole, or for any diverse group, the word "deserve" shouldn't be used. "Deserve" only applies to the people in a group causing the problems from which bad consequences follow.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

7. 45% of Jill Stein voters said had they known their vote would've changed the outcome....

Link to tweet

[betsuni]

8. +1

[Lonestarblue]

9. And if the Republican effort to field a No Labels candidate for president succeeds, we'll even more

votes lost to them. I wish the media would explain that we are not a parliamentary system, and third party candidates who do not get 50% of the vote in a state will get no Electoral College votes. No third party has a chance of getting anywhere close to 50%.

In reality, we have two parties in this country, and they are the only ones that matter. I’ve heard people say that voting for a third party is a protest vote to tell the other two parties that their policies are not liked. Well, guess what, one of the other two parties will win all the EC votes and they don’t care that you threw your vote away. Third-party votes are spoilers and often result in the worst candidate, in this case Trump, winning.

[ITAL]

15. Depends

I think if you live in a very safe state for one of the two main parties, voting for a 3rd party isn't really a big deal. Someone putting down West isn't gonna tip California - Biden will win here by about 5 million votes (note, I am not voting for West).

But in the 6-8 states that matter, no one should vote for 3rd Party if they have someone they really want to vote against.

[Recycle_Guru]

22. and then there are the Susan Sarandons of the world

[former9thward]

16. A party does not need to get 50% of the votes to win the electoral votes.

They just need one more vote than whoever is in 2nd. There are many states where Indies have more registration than either Ds or Rs.

[40oz to Freedom]

11. You're not going to get 2020-like turnout.

So many Americans were able to vote by mail - way more than will have that opportunity in 2024.

We can't count on 2020-like turnout.

With that said, this poll is irrelevant, Even with West, there's still 12% who are undecided. That number is way too big to take any of these polls seriously.

For all we know, 90% of that 12% are going to vote Biden.

That would give him a 51.8 win over Trump.

[elocs]

12. I wish I could say that I'm confident that the Left will turn out in record numbers

in '24 to vote for Biden. I wish I could, but I can't based on over 50 years of voting for Democratic candidates.

[kimbutgar]

13. Sorry Cornell West is a joke and once he starts talking people will turn away from him

I remember watching a show that he was on talking his politics and after awhile I said to myself this guy is an idiot. He’s on the hard left side of the political spectrum that is where some of these hard right wi g people are.

Just like RFK jr. Name recognition but nothing to offer.

[JustAnotherGen]

14. Can Corny

Just go away?

[Polybius]

19. The fact that they're tied without him his mind-boggling

Biden should be ahead by at least 10-15. Why isn't he?

[Recycle_Guru]

23. what % are indecided?

there are a committed 35 to 40% who will vote for Trump no matter what happens

[Sugarcoated]

26. Will he be running as an independent or Dem?

[betsuni]

27. Green Party, Jill Stein campaign manager.

[brooklynite]

28. I would cut the title down to " MI poll shows danger"

If you're STARTING at a 44-44 ties, you already have a problem to deal with.l

Fortunately, we don't believe in polls, right?