Mark Meadows 'decided to trust' Jack Smith and cooperate against Trump: NYT

[Joinfortmill]

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https://www.rawstory.com/mark-meadows-jack-smith/

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/22/us/politics/mark-meadows-trump-legal-strategy.html

'Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows reportedly decided to cooperate in Special Counsel Jack Smith's prosecution of Donald Trump...The New York Times reported Tuesday that Meadows was initially reluctant to answer questions about classified documents and Trump's attempts to stay in office after the 2020 election.

"But when prosecutors working for the special counsel, Jack Smith, challenged Mr. Trump's executive privilege claims before a judge, Mr. Meadows pivoted," the paper reported....

"Even though he risked enraging Mr. Trump, he decided to trust Mr. Smith's team, according to a person familiar with the matter. Mr. Meadows quietly arranged to talk with them not only about the steps the former president took to stay in office, but also about his handling of classified documents after he left."'

[musclecar6]

1. Sounds

Like a smart move, if true. The LAST person I would trust about anything, is the defendent.

[erronis]

2. Meadows is a pantyhose windsock. He'll flutter as the wind blows.

Right now his prior boss ain't blowin very good.

[GETTINGTIRED]

7. I'm Laughin'

pantyhose windsock.

[rubbersole]

39. Absolutely hilarious 😂.

I'm stealing 'pantyhose windsock'.

[Fiendish Thingy]

3. "Decided to cooperate" is not the same as a cooperation agreement

All this article confirms is, once Trump’s privilege claims were overruled, Meadows agreed to answer questions rather than take the fifth.

No mention is made of immunity or a plea agreement (Meadows hasn’t even been indicted by the feds yet).

This is not the whole story, it’s just what Meadows’ team is choosing to leak.

[Brainfodder]

4. SO Republicans drunk on the liar admiration juice, WHAT lame excuse today?

and tomorrow? got 91 more? and a whole lot more?

Trained cockroach circuses are better trained though?
(saw a video years ago and just remembered it)

[BumRushDaShow]

5. Here is a gift link to the article and this was his choice: "Legal peril" or "Physical peril"

No paywall (gift)

And don't forget that he was one of the charter members of the teabagger caucus.

[burrowowl]

19. Thank you

[BumRushDaShow]

22. Most welcome!

[thesquanderer]

26. I think you meant political, not physical. (n/t)

[BumRushDaShow]

31. Nope

As Trump racks up indictments, his supporters are getting arrested and threatening violence against a judge and jurors


Sonam Sheth
Aug 17, 2023, 1:19 PM EDT

Former President Donald Trump went on the attack this week after he was hit with a fourth criminal case. And as the former president keeps racking up indictments, his most extreme supporters are stepping up their rhetoric too, escalating their threats against judges and jurors involved in handing down those indictments.

(snip)

Abigail Jo Shry called Judge Tanya Chutkan, who is Black, a "stupid slave," adding, "You are in our sights, we want to kill you," according to an affidavit from a DHS officer. "If Trump doesn't get elected in 2024, we are coming to kill you," Shry said in the August 5 voicemail, the DHS alleged. "So tread lightly, bitch ... You will be targeted personally, publicly, your family, all of it."

(snip)

Other Trump supporters online discussed targeting the grand jurors in another Trump case, according to media reports. After Georgia prosecutors indicted Trump and 18 other co-defendants in a sprawling RICO case, far-right message boards lit up with threats of violence against the grand jurors — whose names were listed in the indictment — who voted to charge the former president. One user wrote that the list of jurors' names was a "hit list," Media Matters reported. Another user responded, "Based. Godspeed anons, you have all the long range rifles in the world." A user on a pro-Trump QAnon message board posted the names of the jurors and their purported addresses, Media Matters reported, and a user on another message board threatened to "follow these people home and photograph their faces."

(snip)

Earlier this month, Smith's office asked Chutkan to issue a protective order in the January 6 case, and specifically cited a Truth Social post in which Trump wrote, "IF YOU GO AFTER ME, I'M COMING AFTER YOU!" Prosecutors wanted to limit what evidence Trump and his lawyers could disclose to the public. These limits were essential, they argued, because Trump "has previously issued public statements on social media regarding witnesses, judges, attorneys and others associated with legal matters pending against him." Trump's campaign defended his Truth Social post as constitutionally protected free speech.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-supporters-escalate-threats-as-he-racks-up-indictments-2023-8

Don't discount this type of thing (this was Philly's former (R) City Commissioner) -

AZ (R) State House Speaker Rusty Bowers -

[thesquanderer]

33. Ah, I thought you were referencing the article's line about...

..."the wary steps Mr. Meadows took to navigate legal and political peril."

[BumRushDaShow]

34. Sometimes the media

soft pedals the REAL threats, which is why the spineless GOP who don't go along with 45, are so afraid to publicly rebuke him. The literal doxxing, vandalism, death threats, and harassment is why.

It takes being a loudmouth bully like Crispy Creme to somewhat scare the QAnon loons away.

[D_Master81]

6. Trump vs the law

He went along with Jack Smith at the risk of “enraging President Trump” 😂. What a messed up world when that sounds like a courageous act…cooperating with authorities.

[anciano]

8. Exactly!

Thank you.

[ffr]

12. this!

[nycbos]

9. Meadows is smart enough to know...

... that with Trump loyalty is a one-way street. Meadows realized that in order for him to save himself, he had to throw Trump under the bus before Trump can throw him under the bus.

[wiggs]

13. As far as we know, he hasn't done it yet. And we have to remember the first rule of gop

public discourse: if they admit to anything it's because the truth is much worse.

I still think Michael Cohen knows a LOT more than he has admitted to. Same for all the former cabinet members who have bemoaned the ignorance and stupidity of Trump but don't tell us the dozens of instances of treachery and immorality. Certainly same for Barr.

They remain loyal to their gop brand, even while trying to rehabilitate their public images.

[kimbutgar]

10. 3-2-1 it will be interesting to see the rage posts on Hitler jrs lying social site.

[ffr]

11. Building that brick house case, just gained another brick.

But I'm so sad for these rubes. They're all corruptible mindsets. What kind of home life and friends do they keep and what does that say about those other people? They're all a bunch of crap eating cheaters and untrustworthy individuals.

Now forever marked as useful idiots in someone else's grand scheme.

[Bluethroughu]

14. The field mice are beginning to jump ship. The largest rat

will be imprisoned in the wreck as it goes down.

Good riddance.

[Pluvious]

15. Another point Cohen made...

Cohen said his Bail bond was 500k for a hush money payment and Trumps is 200k for racketeering
and the most egregious crime against the nation !!!

Like W. T. F. !!

[yardwork]

16. I know.

[triron]

18. Justice in America.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

38. Hadn't heard this. Dammit, an ex POTUS should be held to a higher standard,

not a lower one. Or, since everyone ought to be treated the same under the law, they should be held to the same standard, but certainly it sucks that we can't expect better behavior from anyone who's ever been elected POTUS.

What a travesty TFG ever set foot in the WH.

[badgolfer]

17. Mark Meadows

Jack Smith should be careful in trusting Meadows. The guy is a a snake.

While in Congress, he was with Jordan and DeSantis to form the Freedom Caucus.

[MayReasonRule]

30. It's Not About "Trust". Trust And Hope Are Two Peas In The Same Ill Fated Pod.

It's incumbent on Jack Smith as a prosecutor to know the answers to all questions before he queries his subject, which is precisely how he's proceeded.

Mark Meadows is testifying because Jack Smith has him by his cojones. Evidently Mark Meadows values his cojones.

It's transactional. Mark Meadows "trusts" that he'll get his balls cut off if he does not. It's Mark Meadows that "trusts" in this situation, which is why he's made this choice. He doesn't wanna' hear *snip*...

[MOMFUDSKI]

20. Just yesterday David Jolly said

Meadows won’t sit for the clown

[Kingofalldems]

21. Trump's wife doesn't even trust him.

I expect the offspring don't trust him either.

[BumRushDaShow]

27. Notice that the spawn have suddenly gone quiet?

Except for one of them who was dropped from the suit, they have a trial coming up Oct. 2.

[Kingofalldems]

35. Ivanka has disappeared.

[BumRushDaShow]

37. Yup

Got outta Dodge.

[Questions questions]

23. Justice? Lol.

Meadows belongs locked up even if he turned on Trump.
Meadows is an insurrectionist, seditious and very untrustworthy.

On Trump:
The DOJ Criminal Division looks away of course. Can't bother a very wealthy piece of shit who 91 charges against him.

Merrick Garland must be in fear of major riots if Trump goes down.

Fuck it, if they riot, we shall overcome their satanic ways.

[Grins]

24. FLYNN!!!!

“Mr. Meadows was there, at times, when Mr. Trump listened to entreaties from outside allies that he use the apparatus of the government to seize voting machines and re-run the election.”

What Mike FLYNN also said to the vile Greg Kelly on Newsmax in Mid-December.

[thesquanderer]

25. "For months, Mr. Trump, his advisers and his allies had been deeply suspicious of Mr. Meadows."

Deeply suspicious is a funny way to put it... they were suspicious that he might tell the truth!

[PortTack]

28. They're all gonna flip!

[Gary 50]

29. I hope Meadows' cooperation with Jack Smith results in a ten year sentence instead of a twenty year

sentence for this traitor.

[Hortensis]

32. :) The DoJ's got Meadows on their stringer. He's busy thrashing on GA's sharper hook.

(My husband's a fishing nut.)

Mr. Meadows was Mr. Trump’s top aide in his chaotic last months in the White House and a firsthand witness not only to the president’s sprawling efforts to overturn the 2020 election, but also to some early strands of what evolved into an inquiry into Mr. Trump’s mishandling of classified documents. ...

Mr. Meadows quietly arranged to talk with them not only about the steps the former president took to stay in office, but also about his handling of classified documents after he left.

When Mr. Meadows first appeared before the grand jury, he gave only limited testimony, declining to answer any questions he believed were protected by executive privilege, which shields some communications between the president and members of his administration.

]Ultimately, Judge Howell issued an order forcing Mr. Meadows to go back to the grand jury. He answered questions for a second time, giving an unvarnished, privilege-free account.

The federal indictment against Mr. Trump contains a mix of accounts about Mr. Meadows’s behavior, some favorable to him. He is mentioned as enabling the false elector scheme to move forward by emailing campaign staff members to say, “We just need to have someone coordinating the electors for states.” ...

By contrast, Mr. Meadows fought efforts to compel him to testify in the separate case in Georgia ... The indictment that resulted from the Georgia investigation lays much blame at Mr. Meadows’s feet. It portrays him as acting as a willing accomplice in the effort to overturn the 2020 election, ... also accused Mr. Meadows of a felony over his role in an infamous phone call on Jan. 2, 2021, in which Mr. Trump pushed the Georgia secretary of state to “find 11,780 votes.”

In a sign that he views the federal venue as more favorable terrain, Mr. Meadows has asked for the Georgia charges against him to move to federal court. ...

[Recycle_Guru]

36. shady headline