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(85,998 posts)
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:13 AM Nov 2012

The Sore-Losers Club

from Steve Kornacki at Salon: http://www.salon.com/2012/11/15/the_sore_losers_club_2/



(photo/Matt Rourke)


The Sore-Losers Club



____ That (Romney’s) still disparaging Obama’s coalition behind closed doors all but confirms that his campaign trail pleadings were insincere. It also reinforces the worst image of Romney, as a sneering plutocrat who has contempt for the common man.

. . . mainly, it’s just bad form. Romney was roundly defeated last week, and the man who defeated him has now publicly saluted him twice. This is the time for Romney to show grace, humility, and maybe some humor too. Instead, he’s coming across like a sore loser, one who’d rather make excuses than give his opponent any real credit.

The same can be said for Romney’s running mate, Paul Ryan. During a series of interviews on Tuesday, Ryan offered this backhanded compliment to the president: “Well, he got turnout. The president should get credit for achieving record-breaking turnout numbers from urban areas for the most part, and that did win the election for him.”

This too smacks of sore loser-dom. Ryan’s ticket lost in swing states without major cities, like Iowa and New Hampshire, and won another key battleground – Virginia – by racking up massive margins in affluent suburbs. And if Ryan was using “urban” as a substitute for “black,” he’s off the mark there too. Sure, Obama received overwhelming support from an unusually energized African-American electorate, but he won plenty of states with small to non-existent black populations. The Obama victory last week was far broader than Ryan’s comment suggests, and rooted not just in demographics but also a very basic advantage on most of the issues that mattered most to voters. As with Romney, this is bad form – the sort of thing that might sound good to conservative diehards but that comes across as tone deaf to just about everyone else.


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The Sore-Losers Club (Original Post) bigtree Nov 2012 OP
Vile manipulators BeyondGeography Nov 2012 #1
"He got turnout." What an asshole. Robb Nov 2012 #2
So sad...the perpetuation of bigotry and hate. And, there are already millions of people out there Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #3
Vermont, with 1.1% black population, gave Obama 66% of the vote BumRushDaShow Nov 2012 #4
This cracker hick from TX voted Obama, so fuck off the two of ya's. callous taoboy Nov 2012 #5
They're pissed off that they actually have their 47% SemperEadem Nov 2012 #6
Iowa's an urban state? who knew? rurallib Nov 2012 #7
The more I see of Romney post election deutsey Nov 2012 #8
Urban areas like Janesville WI? ...... home of Paul Ryan Botany Nov 2012 #9
Snap! Generic Other Nov 2012 #15
Janesville, WI now there is some "real hood." Botany Nov 2012 #16
They are saying as close to that as is allowed by hifiguy Nov 2012 #28
It's a heck of a note when GW Bush was a more gracious loser rhiannon55 Nov 2012 #10
+1, This should be an OP uponit7771 Nov 2012 #27
Ugh. LeftishBrit Nov 2012 #11
And also . . . brush Nov 2012 #14
They have no grace whatsoever. smirkymonkey Nov 2012 #12
Obama won in whiter then white New England. Jennicut Nov 2012 #13
The point is it wasn't what Obama did but what the Repugs have been doing for 30 years rickyhall Nov 2012 #17
Shit Mitt and a shit head! santamargarita Nov 2012 #18
Denial Old Codger Nov 2012 #19
Romney-Ryan lost Virginia. The article has a mistake in it. yardwork Nov 2012 #20
How does Romney explain losing in his home state by double-digits? Hmmmm.... Blue_Roses Nov 2012 #21
"Will someone please pass the crying towel?" ... LMAO lpbk2713 Nov 2012 #22
Republicans just don't know how to act like Americans Berlum Nov 2012 #23
The Party of Resentment graywarrior Nov 2012 #24
. bigtree Nov 2012 #25
Whenever I start to reply, my blood pressure goes up, so I'll just say ashling Nov 2012 #26

Robb

(39,665 posts)
2. "He got turnout." What an asshole.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:24 AM
Nov 2012

In the world beyond GOP political strategy, turnout is a good thing. He all but admits their strategy was to keep "the wrong sorts of people" from voting.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
3. So sad...the perpetuation of bigotry and hate. And, there are already millions of people out there
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:28 AM
Nov 2012

who need to be taught charity and tolerance. Hopefully, there will be a backlash, and there will be repukes who help to turn this around. It is a sad state of affairs when half the country doesn't care about the other half. Let them die without healthcare, who cares.

callous taoboy

(4,585 posts)
5. This cracker hick from TX voted Obama, so fuck off the two of ya's.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:50 AM
Nov 2012

Anyone who has a ticket on the clue bus would assume this would be their reactions.

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
6. They're pissed off that they actually have their 47%
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:04 AM
Nov 2012

while the president has his 53%, and that is the majority in all math.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
8. The more I see of Romney post election
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:10 AM
Nov 2012

The more I'm convinced we truly dodged a big bullet with this election.

I think the next four years would've been far worse than Bush's two terms combined if Romney had won.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
9. Urban areas like Janesville WI? ...... home of Paul Ryan
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:18 AM
Nov 2012

"A struggling blue-collar manufacturing town of 63,575, Janesville lies on the eastern edge of
Rock County, Wis., and unofficial election tabulations from the county clerk there show that
only 37% of Ryan’s hometown neighbors voted for him and his running mate. Meanwhile,
Obama and Vice President Joe Biden got 62% of the Janesville vote."

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-paul-ryan-wisconsin-election-2016-20121114,0,3915876.story

Botany

(70,516 posts)
16. Janesville, WI now there is some "real hood."
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:22 AM
Nov 2012




Why don't they come out and say, "we would have won if all those
n******s & s**** hadn't gone and voted."

rhiannon55

(2,671 posts)
10. It's a heck of a note when GW Bush was a more gracious loser
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:41 AM
Nov 2012

than Romney. Apparently Barbara taught him SOME manners. I remember him refusing to disparage President Obama after the 2008 election, and I remember how pleasantly surprised I was.

LeftishBrit

(41,208 posts)
11. Ugh.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:42 AM
Nov 2012

I find this all very telling. I'm thinking of two blokes going to a job interview. The first one indicates how he is going to do his job, and serve the organization or group that hired him. The second says that he doesn't think it is right for him to do much for the organization, and complains that 47% per cent of the management would actually want him to do some work for them! People closely associated with him even imply that the organization ought to be abolished completely. Unsurprisingly, the first one gets the job. The second then complains that the first one 'bribed' the organization, by actually promising to do his job!

If you have such contempt for government; if you think that public service is 'giving people stuff' that they don't deserve; then why the hell did you run for the top job in government?

'Well, he got turnout. The president should get credit for achieving record-breaking turnout numbers from urban areas for the most part, and that did win the election for him.”'

And there's something wrong with this? Basically, that's saying that Obama won because people voted for him! It's spelled D.E.M.O.C.R.A.C.Y. And why should this not include 'urban areas'? Hard not to conclude that it's because many people in urban areas belong to ethnic minorities.



brush

(53,787 posts)
14. And also . . .
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:59 AM
Nov 2012

. . . one glaringly obvious point, urban areas are where the majority of the population of the country lives. And that includes ALL ethnicities not just African Americans. God, makes one wonder if the Romney/Ryan campaign's judgement is so clouded by prejudice that they can't count.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
12. They have no grace whatsoever.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:43 AM
Nov 2012

Don't they realize how pathetic they look by whining? Such sore losers.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
13. Obama won in whiter then white New England.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:45 AM
Nov 2012

Maine, NH and VT are hardly bastions of the urban vote.

Sore loser does not even begin to describe these cretins. Racists would be perfect.

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
19. Denial
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:54 AM
Nov 2012

They are both fighting irrelevancy, they do not like being relegated to obscurity , have to include mitwit in that lineup.



(edited to include mitwit)

yardwork

(61,650 posts)
20. Romney-Ryan lost Virginia. The article has a mistake in it.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:58 AM
Nov 2012

The writer seems to think that Ryan's ticket won Virginia. They lost that too, despite the affluent suburban vote - some of which went to Obama.

lpbk2713

(42,759 posts)
22. "Will someone please pass the crying towel?" ... LMAO
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:04 PM
Nov 2012




      "WAAAH!! No fair!! We spent all that money and we still LOST!!"




Berlum

(7,044 posts)
23. Republicans just don't know how to act like Americans
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:10 PM
Nov 2012

It is sad that they are such liars and FAILERS, and now on top of that Sore Losers...Pretty piss poor pathetic.

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