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madamesilverspurs

(16,464 posts)
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 01:59 PM Aug 2023

The scariest thing about McConnell's health

is that his replacement will be every bit as horrible but younger and will be committed to continuing Mitch's treachery and vandalism of the Senate.


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The scariest thing about McConnell's health (Original Post) madamesilverspurs Aug 2023 OP
The legislature of Kentucky passed a bill that not only requires the governor to choose a JohnSJ Aug 2023 #1
So the list will be Matt Bevin, Matt Bevin and Matt Bevin. roamer65 Aug 2023 #6
or worse JohnSJ Aug 2023 #12
Hitler, Stalin and Thomas Massey. n/t CincyDem Aug 2023 #15
OMG LymphocyteLover Aug 2023 #21
DeSantis Repug legislature passed a similar bill including that he could run again. Nice to riversedge Aug 2023 #13
Actually I think the bill passed was to allow him to run for president while remaining governor PortTack Aug 2023 #27
Is it time for Dr Oz to move again? mercuryblues Aug 2023 #19
That law needs to be tested in court. Governor Beshear has said that he would consider that. Lonestarblue Aug 2023 #22
Beshear also has a U.S. Constitution argument for appointing anyone of any party. Prior to 1913 the flashman13 Aug 2023 #37
That's a weak argument, because it would negate any appointments LeftInTX Aug 2023 #46
The Kentucky system requires that THREE names be submitted to the (Democratic) Governor... brooklynite Aug 2023 #2
Right, but his replacement as the minority leader will also be younger pnwmom Aug 2023 #18
Why should the Gov follow the law ? Would or better yet "DO" the reThuglicans follow the law ? rickford66 Aug 2023 #25
I going to suggest you delete a post endorsing the Democratic Governor breaking the law... brooklynite Aug 2023 #38
Not breaking the law, just ignoring it like McConnell. rickford66 Aug 2023 #41
So, if I decide to rob a bank, I can "ignore the law" because some other bank robber did? brooklynite Aug 2023 #42
Robbing a bank "is" breaking the law by taking action. rickford66 Aug 2023 #43
Name "the law" that McConnell broke. brooklynite Aug 2023 #45
And what happens if the governor does not pick one? Effete Snob Aug 2023 #30
A responsible Governor isn't going to leave a vacancy for political reasons brooklynite Aug 2023 #39
Well, if Bashear loses his challenge of the law wnylib Aug 2023 #3
Or, he could just say that when there's a divided government gratuitous Aug 2023 #7
Let's play ball! Hardball. erronis Aug 2023 #26
Until the courts decide, the Repugs are short a senator. Sneederbunk Aug 2023 #16
beautiful.tie it up in court. Recycle_Guru Aug 2023 #17
Good point nt spooky3 Aug 2023 #29
Precisely Effete Snob Aug 2023 #31
He's actually been the closest thing they have to the voice of reason. unblock Aug 2023 #4
He refused to intercede on the debt ceiling. 617Blue Aug 2023 #8
Oh absolutely. Rank partisan. unblock Aug 2023 #20
Disagree. He was a master at ratfu**ing. GOP caucus is full of dolts. 617Blue Aug 2023 #5
There's no dearth or bottom to the wingnut barrel. UTUSN Aug 2023 #9
Maybe, but the GOP bench is short. Whoever takes over will have to fight off other FSogol Aug 2023 #10
I have confidence that Gov. Beshear will make the least MAGAtty choice EYESORE 9001 Aug 2023 #11
They'll be Worse.. I've been saying Cha Aug 2023 #14
but as Majority Leader (god forbid) mountain grammy Aug 2023 #23
I wouldn't assume Minority Leader goes to the senior-most member... brooklynite Aug 2023 #40
Yes, I see that and you're right.. mountain grammy Sep 2023 #53
Yes, except freshman senators are relatively powerless, at least their first term Warpy Aug 2023 #24
Glitch McConnell. Comfortably_Numb Aug 2023 #28
The devil we know and the devil we don't. twodogsbarking Aug 2023 #32
is he dying? barbtries Aug 2023 #33
We are all dying. He's just rehearsing. twodogsbarking Aug 2023 #49
lol barbtries Aug 2023 #51
And will never show even the SLIGHT resistance to Trump's shenanigans that Mitch has shown. nt LAS14 Aug 2023 #34
McConnell, a "gently alive corpse". BradBo Aug 2023 #35
Perhaps, but he/she won't have the experience... Trueblue Texan Aug 2023 #36
+1 betsuni Aug 2023 #47
The only bright spot (if there is one) Mad_Machine76 Aug 2023 #44
That kind of public exhibition of decline waits for us all. Arthur_Frain Aug 2023 #48
Nah have a democrat switch to republican and... Brainfodder Aug 2023 #50
Okay? And? BannonsLiver Aug 2023 #52
 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
1. The legislature of Kentucky passed a bill that not only requires the governor to choose a
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 02:01 PM
Aug 2023

replacement from the same party as the vacant Senator, and from a list of three supplied by the republican leadership in Kentucky

riversedge

(79,433 posts)
13. DeSantis Repug legislature passed a similar bill including that he could run again. Nice to
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 02:15 PM
Aug 2023

have these sheepie working for you instate of the State of FL.

Lonestarblue

(13,231 posts)
22. That law needs to be tested in court. Governor Beshear has said that he would consider that.
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 03:54 PM
Aug 2023

The governor vetoed the bill but Republicans overrode the veto. Beshear cited the Kentucky Constitution in his veto:

“Beshear also wrote in his veto statement that SB 228 violates Section 152 of Kentucky's constitution, which states a governor "shall" fill appointments or vacancies in the state at large. The governor wrote that "no conditions, qualifications, or limits are placed on that appointment power" in that section of the constitution.”

So perhaps the state constitution overrides the deliberate attempt to restrict a governor’s rights. If not, Republicans will find the worst candidate possible, perhaps the idiotic in the House, Rep. Comer. At least any newcomer to the Senate would not have an immediate leadership role as McConnell does.


https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2023/07/28/heres-how-kentuckys-law-works-for-filling-u-s-senate-vacancies/70484359007/

flashman13

(2,026 posts)
37. Beshear also has a U.S. Constitution argument for appointing anyone of any party. Prior to 1913 the
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 05:08 PM
Aug 2023

the state legislatures appointed Senators. The 17th amendment changed that so that Senators are elected by popular vote. You can argue that that change also means that the state legislature can not summarily designate a small group of citizens that the governor is obligated to chose from.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
2. The Kentucky system requires that THREE names be submitted to the (Democratic) Governor...
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 02:01 PM
Aug 2023

...who makes the ultimate choice.

The replacement will be younger but won't have the same political clout.

pnwmom

(110,194 posts)
18. Right, but his replacement as the minority leader will also be younger
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 03:33 PM
Aug 2023

and very possibly even worse.

rickford66

(6,043 posts)
25. Why should the Gov follow the law ? Would or better yet "DO" the reThuglicans follow the law ?
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 03:55 PM
Aug 2023
 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
38. I going to suggest you delete a post endorsing the Democratic Governor breaking the law...
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 05:34 PM
Aug 2023
 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
42. So, if I decide to rob a bank, I can "ignore the law" because some other bank robber did?
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 07:52 PM
Aug 2023

rickford66

(6,043 posts)
43. Robbing a bank "is" breaking the law by taking action.
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 07:57 PM
Aug 2023

Did McConnell break the law by not having hearings for Obama's supreme court nominee ? No he just ignored it. That's all I'm gonna say.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
30. And what happens if the governor does not pick one?
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 04:45 PM
Aug 2023

Within what time frame is that selection required to be made, Brooklynite?
 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
39. A responsible Governor isn't going to leave a vacancy for political reasons
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 05:36 PM
Aug 2023

"But Trump gets to do it" is an argument people here should be ashamed of.

wnylib

(25,355 posts)
3. Well, if Bashear loses his challenge of the law
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 02:03 PM
Aug 2023

that requires him to choose a Republican, I guess he could choose the weakest, most disliked one who could be beaten in the next election.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
7. Or, he could just say that when there's a divided government
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 02:05 PM
Aug 2023

Then the executive gets the final say. I call it The McConnell Rule for why President Obama was prevented from filling a Supreme Court seat during the last year of his term because the Senate was under Republican control. Just like the Founding Fathers intended, but forgot to write down.

unblock

(55,924 posts)
4. He's actually been the closest thing they have to the voice of reason.
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 02:03 PM
Aug 2023

He has repeatedly talked his colleagues out of unreasonable crap. Only to replace it with more pragmatic crap, but still.

He's one of the few republicans who actually knew what he was doing.

If his replacement is more wackadoodle, that's ok as long as they stumble all over senate rules.

617Blue

(2,189 posts)
8. He refused to intercede on the debt ceiling.
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 02:06 PM
Aug 2023

I thought he might actually do the right thing there but silky me. He's been silent on the Trump indictments. You'd think he might feel liberated to speak his mind at this point but he's just a partisan warrior thru and thru.

unblock

(55,924 posts)
20. Oh absolutely. Rank partisan.
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 03:46 PM
Aug 2023

Look at the shifting "principles" he talked about when rigging the Supreme Court. He's always happy to argue whatever serves Republican interests in moment.

I only meant that he's not the usual random ranting raving lunatic republican. He knows how to play the game methodically.

617Blue

(2,189 posts)
5. Disagree. He was a master at ratfu**ing. GOP caucus is full of dolts.
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 02:04 PM
Aug 2023

They'll all be moving in different directions. He always had them on the same page.

FSogol

(47,527 posts)
10. Maybe, but the GOP bench is short. Whoever takes over will have to fight off other
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 02:10 PM
Aug 2023

ineffectual GOP shitweasels. Bottom line: they'll be left with much weaker leadership. And who knows, maybe Kentucky can turn purple again one day.

mountain grammy

(28,682 posts)
23. but as Majority Leader (god forbid)
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 03:54 PM
Aug 2023

who is next in seniority? Thune, Cornyn, Grassley.. in fact I think Grassley has more seniority than the rest

Whatever, horrible, fucking men one and all.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
40. I wouldn't assume Minority Leader goes to the senior-most member...
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 05:39 PM
Aug 2023

...its a political choice.

Schumer is by no means the most senior Democrat.

3 Dianne Feinstein, D-CA Nov. 4, 1992
4 Patty Murray, D-WA Jan. 3, 1993
5 Ron Wyden, D-OR Feb. 6, 1996
6 Richard J. Durbin, D-IL Jan. 3, 1997
7 Jack Reed, D-RI Jan. 3, 1997

Warpy

(114,389 posts)
24. Yes, except freshman senators are relatively powerless, at least their first term
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 03:54 PM
Aug 2023

I would be more concerned about the grandstanding by Tuberville.

Democrats, should they hold the Senate, MUST end the filibuster.

De fang the right wing bullies. It is the only way to deal with them.

ETA, I disagree, the scariest thing is how his staffers cover for him along with much of the press. Enough, already, splash this one all over the place, force him to fess up and/or retire.

LAS14

(15,457 posts)
34. And will never show even the SLIGHT resistance to Trump's shenanigans that Mitch has shown. nt
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 04:48 PM
Aug 2023

Trueblue Texan

(4,194 posts)
36. Perhaps, but he/she won't have the experience...
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 05:02 PM
Aug 2023

...This is why I don't believe in term limits. Nancy Pelosi saved Democracy on Jan 6. Her experience and wisdom served us better than a younger, more energetic Speaker would have.

Mad_Machine76

(24,936 posts)
44. The only bright spot (if there is one)
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 07:59 PM
Aug 2023

Is they (probably) won’t be the Machiavellian politician that McConnell is.

Arthur_Frain

(2,266 posts)
48. That kind of public exhibition of decline waits for us all.
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 01:12 AM
Aug 2023

Politics aside. That’s the scariest thing about watching what he’s going through now.

Waits for us all.

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