To remind everyone, January 6th wasn't Trump's Plan A. It wasn't even Plan B.

[kpete]

This should be mailed to every registered voter.

https://liberalsarecool.com/post/727220839423082496

[woodsprite]

1. What's the 40 ft reference to?

Hadn’t heard that statement before and wanted to find out before I post the thread to my FB friends. I know at least a few of them will read it.

[Kid Berwyn]

3. How far Trump's mob was from Pence and his family...

...inside the Capitol.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/16/mike-pence-40ft-from-mob-january-6#:~:text=At%202.26pm%2C%20Pence%20had,president's%20life%20was%20in%20danger.%E2%80%9D

The Secret Service agents on his detail's text messages were said to be along the lines of: "Good-bye. I love you."

[AllaN01Bear]

26. im glad mr pence refused to get into the limo.

[RussBLib]

28. have we ever heard Pence address WHY he didn't get into that limo?

If he did, I missed it. Obviously Pence knew more than he let on.

[wiggs]

37. ...and we haven't heard why Chuck Grassley knew Pence wouldn't be back to count votes nt

[RussBLib]

42. ...and how was it that Alito was ready to "step in"?

Still some unanswered questions....

...not to mention all the complicit GOP Congresscreatures.

[wishstar]

55. He said he felt compelled to stay so Congress could reconvene and finish the voting

otherwise the mob would have succeeded in their efforts to halt the vote counting.

[True Blue American]

62. Pence refused to get

In that SECRET SERVICE car that was supposed to take him to safety he knew he would not come back. And now we know some in that service were helping the insurrectionists.

[Abigail_Adams]

50. It could all

have turned on that decision. It still gives me the shivers.

[Qutzupalotl]

4. IIRC, the J6 committee said the insurrecctionists came within 40 ft

of Pence as he was moving to a secure location, missing him by less than a minute. If they had captured him, it could have turned into an even bigger tragedy, or even a successful coup.

[Alice Kramden]

5. Officer Eugene Goodman

On the stairs in the Capitol
[link:https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/01/12/us/capitol-police-eugene-goodman-riots-senate-chambers-trnd/index.html|]

[patphil]

10. Of all the heros of J6, Eugene Goodman has to be at the top.

If the mob had gotten to the Senate Chambers, it would have been game over for our Democratic Republic.

[Alice Kramden]

12. Agree

He is an amazing hero

[AllaN01Bear]

25. if dumpster fire wins then it is game over . i hope he does not .

[Kid Berwyn]

2. Heroics.

[Alice Kramden]

13. Agree

Grateful beyond measure that this brave and noble person had the strength and knowledge to do what needed to be done - she reconvened the proceedings in the middle of the night

[AllaN01Bear]

17. ms . barbra boxer , one of my many heros .

[ms liberty]

41. That's Nancy Pelosi former Speaker of the House, Barbara Boxer was In the Senate

And retired a couple of elections ago.

[Probatim]

22. And you know when "that woman" thinks of that day and what trunt did

she wishes she could choke the shit out of him.

Fortunately for him, she's too professional to do that.

I'm never going to be over what he's done to this country.

[calimary]

39. Neither am I. That's why I'm gonna be REMINDING everyone possible

about who stood for our government and our country and its Constitution, and who stood with the violence and the anarchists and the disrupters and schmucks and destructive assholes, a few of whom actually caused great bodily injury and death, in the name of worshipping a modern-day phony-ass golden calf.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

61. It is a travesty that we need to remind anyone of these things.

Every American ought to be fully aware that TFG is a traitorous monster. That the news media can't even put aside their corporate greed in this most dire of situations is a travesty. Tell the truth--that Pissolini lied & cheated & tried repeatedly to overthrow our government--even if you take a financial hit for it.

Really, though, if they truly wanted to, they could present the truth in a way that would "sell papers" (digital equivalent.) They could make click-bait out of it. But they don't.

So, they apparently want him to be POTUS again. Disgusting!

[calimary]

65. Cuz people forget. Especially when the pizazz is turned up full.

People will forget as the uncomfortable or outraging stuff fades into the past. And I understand why. Cuz few of us are eager to cling to bad memories, especially involving something embarrassing or in other ways negative.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

66. Yes, and all the more reason the media needs to step up

and remind e everyone.

[flying_wahini]

6. Yes, they were closer to success than most people imagine.

Scary shit.

[Traildogbob]

29. Look up

The GQP plan to give trump 100 percent power after he is re-installed. Thom Hartmann read the plan point by point yesterday. They are writing it all out, pre recruiting the entire cabinet, all. Cultists, to overthrow the entire government scheme, one branch, executive only, for the billionaire full control. They have only begun. “The Best is Yet To Come!!!!”
We should be scared on the highest level of terrified.

[Lonestarblue]

43. Are you referring to Project 2025 or some other plan? Project 2025 is over 900 pages.

I’ve downloaded it but haven’t had time yet to start reading.

[Traildogbob]

44. Yes!

That’s the one. It was easier to hear Thom take it apart. Takes 900 pages to shred our government. Also MAGA’s can’t read even 9 pages so there would be zero backlash with the whole 900.

[Mr.Bill]

51. If they try to do that

there will be a bloodbath.

[bucolic_frolic]

7. Clarity in retrospect, and actually well-planned, not random or opportunistic

It pales only in comparison to the insurrection and coup of the Russian Revolution. Bolsheviks prevailed by strategic planning, alliances with right wing military and historic conservative groups, geographic advantage played well, and propaganda. Slow communications of the period worked to advantage too.

You could feel the effort to seize power from April 2016 when he began repeating elections were rigged. By "Russia, if you're listening ..." it was evident something was afoot.

[Evolve Dammit]

8. May this all come out as testimony in various venues unfolds. He needs justice bigly. nt

[OMGWTF]

9. Hanging is too good for Shitler.

[erronis]

16. Well, by his heels might be OK.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Benito_Mussolini#Piazzale_Loreto

[thomski64]

19. ..while the Hitler reference is apt....

..I like to compare him to Jefferson Davis, who was President of only his part of the Country, led an insurrection against the Nation. Should have been hanged for it. And at the least was prohibited from being a candidate for office by the 14th amendment
tRump was only ever president of MAGAstan, not the United States. It is manifestly obvious that he led an coup attempt. If you throw in Russian Agent,
he should be executed for treason....

[usonian]

11. TFG doesn't really understand politics.

He understands mob rules. His appeal is to hold the mob together. It carried over into politics via voter suppression (intimidation) and character assassination.

Lackeys do all the dirty work. And a major aspect of this affair, and the GOP of recent years has been money laundering, TFG's specialty. This will come out in trials, as it is coming out on Rudy.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/09/a-new-rudy-scandal-fbi-agent-says-giuliani-was-co-opted-by-russian-intelligence/

TFG's empire is (arguably) an exercise in money laundering, and given the billions that Musk has lost, he may be playing the same game. When any operation loses lots of money while claiming to be successful, their success is suspect.

I have made comparisons to mob behavior in other posts.

[erronis]

18. Thanks for link to MotherJones article - interesting.

It would seem to imply that the FBI is still not cleansed of its connections to outsiders.

[WilliamPlanke]

14. Add US Congressional Republicans to that list

The 3rd act conspiracy also depended heavily on Ted Cruz and company contesting the election on Jan 6.

[Jarqui]

15. Trump ought to be in prison awaiting trial

rather than out working to take another shot at stealing the Oval Office to protect himself from being held accountable for his crimes.

[musclecar6]

21. I completely agree

He should have been locked up at 12:01 on 01/20/21.

[usonian]

34. "Nobodies" have already gotten contempt of court slapdowns.

While agent orange continues to threaten the DA, the judge, the judiciary, executive, legislative, military, election workers, the media (Fox and NYT!) and even the medical professionals.

I said THREATEN, not criticize.

[jaxexpat]

46. The relationship that transitions Trump from .....

whiney critic to a dangerous threat is similar to the DOJ's challenge. They must to reveal Trump's exhortations to "fight hard or you won't have any country left" as s directive to take over Congress and physically disrupt the electoral count.

[byronius]

35. Second that.

Dangerous predator left to roam freely? Not in my town.

[musclecar6]

20. Yes

It was a close call. If our favorite National Disgrace defendant gets convicted, I hope the judge sentences him to prison, NOT let him off with a plea deal with no prison time. He really needs to serve time for the unthinkable insurrection he mounted against our country. His sentence should be similar to the proud boys and oath keepers leaders of many years in prison.

[Probatim]

24. I feel like the future of the nation is riding on the outcomes of these cases against him.

Many people here have suggested that conservatives have acted with impunity since Nixon was pardoned. Reagan, Bush the lesser, and now Trunt. All have done terrible things to enrich themselves, their co-defendants, and even foreign nations - at the expense of millions of lives.

Each time they've gotten to walk away from it.

If he isn't punished, we'll get a new crop of criminals who, judging by their character, words, and actions, will do far worse things.

I think about McConnell's health and the idea of Rick Scott becoming Minority Leader scares the shit out of me. The guy is evil, smart, and motivated by the worst instincts. I feel like we'll actually miss Mitch if he takes the reins.

So fucking infuriating.

[byronius]

36. So true.

[AllaN01Bear]

23. thats what i have been saying all along. trump and puttie tried to get ukr

to find dirt on hunter biden. then dumpster fire lost and puttie invaded ukr. full stop.

[William Seger]

27. Wasn't there another plan to intimidate election officials into "finding" votes? (nt)

[Bluethroughu]

30. Boom there it is.

Treason, traitors and terrorists...

That's most of the GOP, and the cowards that can't open their mouths for the sake of our Country, they're nothing but self interested a$$holes. My relatives that died in the Civil War on up are rolling over in their graves.

[Pluvious]

31. Original tweet...

Jfyi

https://x.com/stealthygeek/status/1671684153157337090?

[kpete]

47. thank you Pluvious

peace
kp

[bringthePaine]

32. superb summary - thank you!

[bora13]

33. no one wanted to play with donny that day

[link: |

[Boomerproud]

38. Email this to the NYT, WaPo., CNN and MSNBC.

Insist that they prove that every point is wrong. Cowards!

[agingdem]

40. I think there was a pre-Plan A.."fixing" prior to "stealing"

months before November 2020, covid was raging, people were dying, and the blame was solely on Trump...and because the signs pointed to a Trump loss, he, Barr, and DeJoy set about "fixing" the election in their favor..questioning the validity of mail-in ballots, slowing the mail, and warning rally goers if Trump lost it was because Biden and the Democrats had rigged the vote...and playing their part in the rigged election charade, Bannon/Giuliani/Stone, aware the early vote would more than likely skew Republican, concocted a plan for Trump to declare victory early, demand a halt to the vote count, and throw the outcome of the election to Trump's compromised Supreme Court, confident they would rule in Trump's favor with Bush v Gore as precedent....but the vote count continued and Biden was declared the winner of the 2020 election...

and that's when stealing the election from Biden was a go...

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

53. Actually, the timeline works like this

Plan A: Pre-election

Get Russia to manipulate the results.

Plan B: Election loss - 12 December

Sue if the results don't line up with "expected" vote tampering. Twist arms in swing states to "find" votes for TFG, by any means necessary (even tampering with voting machines, or trashing absentee ballots). Put together fake electors for when the votes are "found."

Plan C: 12 December - 5 January

Convince Pence and traitor thugs on Capitol Hill to throw elections back to state legislatures to authorize fake electors.

Plan D: 6 January and beyond.

Call forth mob to shut down counting the electoral votes. Subdue LEO and National Guard response until Antifa clashes with right-wing mob. When antifa gets into the fray, declare martial law. Suspend Congress. Arrest all antifa and Democratic elected officials. Install TFG as Dear Leader for "two weeks." A two weeks that never ends, of course, leaving TFG as Dear Leader for life.

[agingdem]

56. I don't think Russian election interference played as big part in

the 2020 election as it did in 2016...I think it was all about sowing doubt in the election process, eliminating voting centers in predominately Black districts, manipulating voter rolls, claiming victory regardless, and demanding a stop to the vote count with a nod from the Supreme Court..(my opinion for what it's worth)...

[DFW]

60. to put it in baseball terms:

[Cha]

45. I got busy and Retweeted.. Spread the Word..

Link to tweet

TY

[Blue Owl]

49. I sure hope Jack Smith is secretly holding the goods between the Putin/tRump comradeship....

Waiting for the right time to expose this corrupt partnership....

[The Wizard]

52. A failed coup D'Etat

usually results in guillotines and head baskets, blindfolds and cigarettes or gallows . At the very least, public whippings. Treason is a serious offense. Putin is not our friend.

[ancianita]

54. He thinks he can frame a DC defense from what he learns on discovery from GA co-defendants,

to create 'reasonable doubt' with the jury, keeping in mind the responses of the convicted militia seditionists.

If they can't get off in the GA case, he can't get off in the DC case, either.

Here's hoping the GA case feeds into the DC jury's mindset.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

57. Good, very good history. But what about 2024!!! Geez

Just heard that per AP poll a whooping 77% of people think Biden is too old!!!

Why aren't we talking and strategizing and brainstorming about THAT!!!? We know he's not too old.

[czarjak]

58. "Any means necessary." They meant it then, they mean it now, they'll mean it tomorrow.

Persistently vile behavior catches up with itself. Every Fucking Time

[orangecrush]

59. Put the bastard in prison

And be done with him.

[FakeNoose]

63. This is all true because Chump KNEW he was going to LOSE the election

Plans were being made for the Krazy Koup as far in advance as 6 months BEFORE the election. Doesn't that prove premeditation? Doesn't that prove conspiracy?

Lock him up! Lock them all up!

[malaise]

64. Great OP

Rec