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Lunabell

(6,158 posts)
Sat Oct 7, 2023, 02:11 PM Oct 2023

My mind/heart just can't wrap around being a nazi.

What kind of degenerate thinking goes into this mindset? How much energy goes into hating and to basically having your humanity and soul decay from the inside out? Not realizing that YOU are the problem, you try to reach/program others, use their vulnerabilities to plant seeds of rot into their humanity and foment violence against your fellow humans. I am not religious, but I do believe in evil.


https://www.rawstory.com/msn-uk/not-just-a-nightmare-leaked-how-to-manual-exposes-workings-of-extreme-white-nationalism/


Rolling Stones link. I don't have a subscription.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/white-lives-matter-manual-reveals-hate-group-strategy-1234848279/

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My mind/heart just can't wrap around being a nazi. (Original Post) Lunabell Oct 2023 OP
And why are they always reQublican? KS Toronado Oct 2023 #1
Their brains are not wired correctly. LuckyCharms Oct 2023 #2
Me too. HELL is empty and the devils are all here, Shakespeare. Bluethroughu Oct 2023 #3
Paranoia and greed are the root bucolic_frolic Oct 2023 #4
The Nazis took control in Germany as the result of circumstances following WWI Ocelot II Oct 2023 #5
Hitler was a true believer Shermann Oct 2023 #6
Agree, totally. Shame so many became America's "trusted friends." Kid Berwyn Oct 2023 #7

LuckyCharms

(17,490 posts)
2. Their brains are not wired correctly.
Sat Oct 7, 2023, 02:16 PM
Oct 2023

The same way a sociopath lacks empathy.

The same way a psychopath can murder without feeling anything.

I feel it's the same thing with Nazi's and white supremacists. They somehow feel superiority because of their race. To me, it indicates either a mental illness, a personality disorder, or an organic brain disorder.

Just my opinion.

Bluethroughu

(5,222 posts)
3. Me too. HELL is empty and the devils are all here, Shakespeare.
Sat Oct 7, 2023, 02:18 PM
Oct 2023

I hate the hate. It's such a waste of energy.

bucolic_frolic

(43,720 posts)
4. Paranoia and greed are the root
Sat Oct 7, 2023, 02:21 PM
Oct 2023

As a Nazi you get to hate a group of nameless faceless people, and when they're gone you get to plunder the space and resources they occupied, so there's more for you and your family.

Ocelot II

(116,227 posts)
5. The Nazis took control in Germany as the result of circumstances following WWI
Sat Oct 7, 2023, 02:23 PM
Oct 2023

Basically, after having lost the war Germany was in bad shape. Hitler and other politicians saw that a scapegoat was needed to take the blame for all the problems (since they were unable to solve them themselves), and since anti-Semitism already existed, though not so overtly, Jews were easily designated as the cause of all the difficulties. And once an out-group can be blamed for all of a country's ills, the easy next step is to dehumanize them, depict them as inferior, dirty, dangerous animals, and then it's possible for many members of the general population to justify their isolation, imprisonment and eventual extermination. This has happened in many places, not just Germany, when a demagogue takes control and is able to convince enough people that an Other presents a mortal danger to them and their country. This is exactly what TFG and his new Nazis in the GOP are doing.

Shermann

(7,572 posts)
6. Hitler was a true believer
Sat Oct 7, 2023, 02:29 PM
Oct 2023

That said, the political benefits of having a group to characterize as a common enemy and then exploit were not lost on him.

Many Nazis weren't true believers but assisted with the exploitation merely to improve their positions.

In a way, that is even more evil.

Kid Berwyn

(15,327 posts)
7. Agree, totally. Shame so many became America's "trusted friends."
Sat Oct 7, 2023, 02:40 PM
Oct 2023
THE CIA’S WORST-KEPT SECRET: NEWLY DECLASSIFIED FILES CONFIRM UNITED STATES COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS

Pried loose by Congress, which passed the Nazi War Crimes Disclosure Act three years ago, a long-hidden trove of once-classified CIA documents confirms one of the worst-kept secrets of the cold war--the CIA's use of an extensive Nazi spy network to wage a clandestine campaign against the Soviet Union.


By Martin A. Lee | May 1, 2001

“Honest and idealist … enjoys good food and wine … unprejudiced mind …”

That’s how a 1952 Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) assessment described Nazi ideologue Emil Augsburg, an officer at the infamous Wannsee Institute, the SS think tank involved in planning the Final Solution. Augsburg’s SS unit performed “special duties,” a euphemism for exterminating Jews and other “undesirables” during the Second World War.

Although he was wanted in Poland for war crimes, Augsburg managed to ingratiate himself with the U.S. CIA, which employed him in the late 1940s as an expert on Soviet affairs. Recently released CIA records indicate that Augsburg was among a rogue’s gallery of Nazi war criminals recruited by U.S. intelligence agencies shortly after Germany surrendered to the Allies.

Pried loose by Congress, which passed the Nazi War Crimes Disclosure Act three years ago, a long-hidden trove of once-classified CIA documents confirms one of the worst-kept secrets of the cold war–the CIA’s use of an extensive Nazi spy network to wage a clandestine campaign against the Soviet Union.

The CIA reports show that U.S. officials knew they were subsidizing numerous Third Reich veterans who had committed horrible crimes against humanity, but these atrocities were overlooked as the anti-Communist crusade acquired its own momentum. For Nazis who would otherwise have been charged with war crimes, signing on with American intelligence enabled them to avoid a prison term.

Continues…

https://fpif.org/the_cias_worst-kept_secret_newly_declassified_files_confirm_united_states_collaboration_with_nazis/

More history on the subject from GWU’s National Security Archives:

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB146/index.htm

Jewish Virtual Library also provides excellent resources:

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/cia-s-support-to-the-nazi-war-criminal-investigations

ETA: The intelligence community lied to Truman about this history. Apparently the team Eisenhower had in place didn’t mind.
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