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applegrove

(130,490 posts)
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 02:38 PM Oct 2023

Poll Shows Catastrophic Drop Off in Support for Netanyahu

Poll Shows Catastrophic Drop Off in Support for Netanyahu

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu visits the border with Egypt at the southern village ... MORE
By Josh Marshall
October 13, 2023 11:12 a.m.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/poll-shows-catastrophic-drop-off-in-support-for-netanyahu

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One issue we’ve discussed since Saturday’s attacks is what effect the Hamas attacks and subsequent Israel-Hamas war would have on public opinion in Israel. Specifically, would there be a rally round the flag boost for the government of Benjamin Netanyahu? As I’ve tried to argue, it was not at all clear this would be the case. There’s been a great deal of anecdotal and reported evidence to the contrary. If you watch Israeli media there’s clearly been a vast upsurge of social solidarity and support for retaliation against Hamas (that civilians in Gaza will pay a heavy price for). But there’s been very, very little evidence of any surge in support for Netanyahu or his government. Indeed, we see signs of a volcanic anger against his government over its responsibility for the events of last weekend. There have been a number of viral videos of members of the coalition heckled in public or shouted down or forced to leave events in response to public anger.

Now we have one of the first polls and it appears to confirm all of that, a vast sea of public anger and catastrophic loss of support for Netanyahu’s government.

Polls are always just snapshots in time, even more so in such chaotic circumstances. But this poll from the Israeli daily Maariv paints a clear and devastating picture of initial public reactions. The results show drops for almost every party in the government and a dramatic drop for Likud, from 32 to 19 seats. In total it’s well below a majority. There is meanwhile a huge gain for the party of Benny Gantz, the former chief of staff who just joined the national unity government. That party, somewhat confusingly also called National Unity, goes from 12 seats to 41. There are a bunch of other changes but those are the key ones.

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But what this shows pretty clear is that the current government has not benefited at all from the current crisis. On the contrary there’s a major backlash against the current government and a big surge of support for the opposition, especially Benny Gantz’s centrist/ex-general-heavy party.

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Poll Shows Catastrophic Drop Off in Support for Netanyahu (Original Post) applegrove Oct 2023 OP
Hey Benni! Invade a country that had nothing to do with the Aristus Oct 2023 #1
+1000 roamer65 Oct 2023 #4
Here it comes... TomDaisy Oct 2023 #2
Good, Elessar Zappa Oct 2023 #3
If evidence of LIHOP ever comes out, he will be running for his life Attilatheblond Oct 2023 #13
It's out. Warpy Oct 2023 #15
The corrupt narcissistic piece of shit needs to resign. dalton99a Oct 2023 #5
Too bad that motherfucker wasn't given the boot years ago. Sky Jewels Oct 2023 #6
He was booted out, but Israelis voted him back in. Hope the ppl of Israel got the message this time PortTack Oct 2023 #7
Would be good if they did but Israeli politics are 5x more divided than the current GOP congress. Ford_Prefect Oct 2023 #11
The Israeli people were bdamomma Oct 2023 #12
Exactly...bibi is Israel's trump! Sick fascist PortTack Oct 2023 #19
Recommended democrank Oct 2023 #8
Extremely unsurprising. ShazzieB Oct 2023 #9
The irony. Xolodno Oct 2023 #10
Israelis might be asking themselves . . . Aussie105 Oct 2023 #14
So Jews are seeking a Final Solution? Sympthsical Oct 2023 #17
Netanyahu should have listened to the Egyptians' warning. patphil Oct 2023 #16
let that be a lesson to the USA....... Takket Oct 2023 #18
2 of a kind AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #20

Aristus

(71,715 posts)
1. Hey Benni! Invade a country that had nothing to do with the
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 02:43 PM
Oct 2023

Hamas attacks! You’ll get re-elected, no sweat! It worked for George W. Bush!

Elessar Zappa

(16,385 posts)
3. Good,
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 02:54 PM
Oct 2023

that’s two things good that may come out of this mess: the elimination of Hamas and the fall of Netanyahu.

Attilatheblond

(8,358 posts)
13. If evidence of LIHOP ever comes out, he will be running for his life
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 05:04 PM
Oct 2023

Sorry, but I put him in same category as Trump: Willing to try anything to stay in power and out of jail.

Warpy

(114,413 posts)
15. It's out.
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 05:40 PM
Oct 2023

This might be one major reason, preoccupied with other things as they are (like staying alive), they no longer support their man who would be king.

(and no, I'm not being unfair, men who cling to power beyond all reason are very similar)

PortTack

(35,815 posts)
7. He was booted out, but Israelis voted him back in. Hope the ppl of Israel got the message this time
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 04:13 PM
Oct 2023

Ford_Prefect

(8,517 posts)
11. Would be good if they did but Israeli politics are 5x more divided than the current GOP congress.
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 04:55 PM
Oct 2023

One country and multiple parties, each with an agenda. Each with a distinct view of just how the country should do this or that. There are major themes to be sure but the adage about herding cats could have been written here.

bdamomma

(69,176 posts)
12. The Israeli people were
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 05:02 PM
Oct 2023

protesting in the streets against Netanyahu due to his fraud indictments he wants to neuter the laws in Knesset (their version of the Supreme Court). Netanyahu has been distracted by his own desires to change or ignore the laws then he won't have to be held accountable for his recklessness.

ShazzieB

(22,238 posts)
9. Extremely unsurprising.
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 04:28 PM
Oct 2023

If he really did know about the Hamas attack plan ahead of time and did nothing about it as many are claiming, I hope he chokes to death on the ashes of his political career.

Xolodno

(7,316 posts)
10. The irony.
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 04:54 PM
Oct 2023

He was trying to set himself as an autocrat and rule for life, probably so he could be celebrated as some sort of hero for eliminating the Oslo Accords, etc.

Now his last term will be of legacy of death of his own people that in his hubris, failed to protect.

Aussie105

(7,661 posts)
14. Israelis might be asking themselves . . .
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 05:19 PM
Oct 2023

Is this a step too far?

Are we turning fascist?

Is this Netanyahu's version of a Final Solution?

And coming up with some very dark answers.

Sympthsical

(10,870 posts)
17. So Jews are seeking a Final Solution?
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 05:54 PM
Oct 2023

And that's the rhetoric you looked at and went, "Yeah, I'll say this out loud"

Yikes.

patphil

(8,739 posts)
16. Netanyahu should have listened to the Egyptians' warning.
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 05:47 PM
Oct 2023

They told him it was coming, and he did nothing, so now he pays the price.
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy...but then that wouldn't have been Netenyahu.
He thought they'd see him as a hero, but he's just a self-serving villian.

Takket

(23,500 posts)
18. let that be a lesson to the USA.......
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 05:57 PM
Oct 2023

if you elect some authoritarian piece of shit who says only he can protect you, but all he really cares about is undermining the government to save his own ass, you are going to get hit with an attack akin to the one Hamas pulled.

Re-elect drumpf and we WILL get hit by terrorists when he destroys the government

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