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NCIndie

(556 posts)
2. You're using an anti-Semitic poster to illustrate antisemitism?
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 09:22 AM
Oct 2023

Isn't that a bit self defeating?

Particularly around here, I don't think a blunt instrument is needed to illustrate the history of these attitudes.

sarisataka

(22,240 posts)
9. If it makes people uncomfortable- good
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 09:56 AM
Oct 2023

I have seen Biden called "stupid", "kissing Israel's ass", "war monger", supporting genocide". I have seen posts saying we must make him a one term President and one for him to resign.
I cannot even track all of the blatantly antisemitic posts I have seen. (No, not all criticism of Israel is antisemitic. I have criticized their actions several times this week)

Sadly most of these posts remain on DU. Perhaps a blunt instrument is exactly what is needed.

I am thankful a jury agreed with me, the post I referenced was over the line.

Maru Kitteh

(31,274 posts)
14. Rec for your original post and for this one too. People must see. Russian troll farms target
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 10:25 AM
Oct 2023

even a little forum like ours because it is so widely seen. They encourage the worst impulses of a contingency of far left and try to push those attitudes and antisemitism into the mainstream.

We must be guarded against it, and against Islamophobia.




sarisataka

(22,240 posts)
17. Completely agree
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 10:31 AM
Oct 2023

I posted about threats our Muslim congress members are receiving. Islamophobia is equally intolerable.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
12. Right
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 10:22 AM
Oct 2023

I'm upset and alerting over antisemitism so let me post THE SAME antisemitism I alerted. Makes perfect sense!

sarisataka

(22,240 posts)
20. Perhaps your issue is with the Holocaust Museum
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 10:36 AM
Oct 2023

Since that was my source.

If you think calling out current antisemitism and showing how the exact same antisemitism was expressed in the past is the same, I do not know how to help you. But I will try.

If a person says slavery was wrong, and then uses a picture to show how slaves were treated is that supporting slavery?

Hugin

(37,453 posts)
3. That's what makes misinformation and propaganda corrosive.
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 09:25 AM
Oct 2023

It’s so divisive.

Like you, I refrain from alerting, but when an environment of highly charged emotions takes hold during a period of open conflict. These issues take on a new urgency and people feel that they must stand up for their view of the situation.

Elessar Zappa

(16,385 posts)
5. I've alerted a couple of posts too.
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 09:49 AM
Oct 2023

I usually don’t but anti-Semitic canards shouldn’t be tolerated on a progressive website.

edhopper

(37,097 posts)
6. What that poster said is true
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 09:50 AM
Oct 2023

in that Congress is in the pocket of many, many groups and lobbyists. Some domestic, some international.
But it is different from those, mostly Republicans, who are actually in the pocket of Russia and Putin.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
8. The SCOTUS really fucked this country with Citizen's United
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 09:55 AM
Oct 2023

Dark money flows from every fascist orifice now.

Maru Kitteh

(31,274 posts)
16. You just stated that Biden and Congress is in Israel's back pocket because money. Do you
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 10:30 AM
Oct 2023

believe that? Do you believe as you said, that what the removed OP stated was true?

edhopper

(37,097 posts)
19. No
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 10:35 AM
Oct 2023

I said the Congress is in the pocket of many, many lobbyist groups. Not all members the same groups, but most are beholden to one lobbyist groups or another. The ones who aren't are few and far between. It's how things are, especially after Citizens United.
Israel is just one of many of these groups.

Emrys

(8,934 posts)
13. Well, a couple of weeks ago I alerted on a post that called for the torture of Hamas captives.
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 10:24 AM
Oct 2023

Another DUer challenged this by pointing out torture had been tried in the past and was not only illegal but unproductive, at which the poster I alerted on expanded on this vehemently by saying what they'd tried wasn't enough, and he meant "truly medieval torture."

Those posts stood for two days before I finally decided to alert on the second one, which I was then glad to see was hidden, or I'd have lost a lot of faith in DU. The first slightly less objectionable post still stood the last time I looked - I left it as I felt the poster, who regularly crops up on threads about Israel/Palestine and is vociferous in support of Israel, should own it. That poster certainly hadn't thought better of the first post, having gotten a hide, and deleted it.

I didn't post about this till now as I generally feel that's against forum etiquette and the jury result is enough and should be the end of the matter, but if we're sharing objectionable material we've found on DU, then why not?

Emrys

(8,934 posts)
18. Good. Did you see the first post I referred to while making your decision?
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 10:34 AM
Oct 2023

If so, was there any reason why you didn't alert on it? It called for torture.

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