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dalton99a

(92,127 posts)
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 08:44 AM Oct 2023

'Go pick up a Bible': Speaker Mike Johnson defends anti-LGBTQ+ views

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/27/mike-johnson-christian-bible-lgbtq-abortion-rights

‘Go pick up a Bible’: Speaker Mike Johnson defends anti-LGBTQ+ views
Republican House speaker, who has advanced extreme views as attorney and legislator, says ‘I am a Bible-believing Christian’
Martin Pengelly in Washington
Fri 27 Oct 2023 08.45 EDT

Questioned about comments and actions deemed by many to be homophobic, the new Republican US House speaker, Mike Johnson of Louisiana, told Fox News his worldview was: “Go pick up a Bible.”

Speaking on Thursday, Johnson said he “genuinely love[d] all people regardless of their lifestyle choices.

“This is not about the people themselves. I am a Bible-believing Christian. Someone asked me today in the media, they said, ‘… People are curious. What does Mike Johnson think about any issue under the sun?’ I said, well, go pick up a Bible off your shelf and read it – that’s my worldview. That’s what I believe and so I make no apologies for it.”

The Louisianan, 51, won his final vote without Republican dissent but is a controversial pick nonetheless. Before entering Congress in 2016, he was an attorney for rightwing Christian groups and a state legislator. In both roles he advanced extreme views, particularly against abortion and LGBTQ+ rights.

Johnson’s work for the Alliance Defending Freedom has attracted widespread attention. The Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors far-right activity, calls the ADF a hate group – a label it rejects.

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'Go pick up a Bible': Speaker Mike Johnson defends anti-LGBTQ+ views (Original Post) dalton99a Oct 2023 OP
Then get out of SECULAR government and go be the bigoted preacher that you wannabe, ARPad95 Oct 2023 #1
What one fabric is his clothing made of? underpants Oct 2023 #2
The Bible also says that evert fifty years there should be a year of Jubilee thucythucy Oct 2023 #5
Hmmm...i wonder if he has PLAID UNDERWEAR Chipper Chat Oct 2023 #15
I bet he never said that to Trump. Diamond_Dog Oct 2023 #3
The cult leader is exempt dalton99a Oct 2023 #11
How bout you pick up a Bible Marthe48 Oct 2023 #4
The Ayatollah has spoken. eppur_se_muova Oct 2023 #6
Wake Me When He Denounces Divorced Colleagues For Their Damnable Adultery, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2023 #7
And that's just fine and dandy Mike, the problem is when you foist that shit on errrrbody else GuppyGal Oct 2023 #8
Followers of Abrahamic religions seem to be at the root of many of our current problems. LastDemocratInSC Oct 2023 #14
understatement post of the year. maxsolomon Oct 2023 #23
100% vapor2 Oct 2023 #42
Oh, boy! At least he's right out front with leftyladyfrommo Oct 2023 #9
Enough of the Bible shit Traildogbob Oct 2023 #10
The United States is not governed by the bible, but by the US CONSTITUTION!!!! Fla Dem Oct 2023 #12
"lifestyle choices" we all know what that means n/t hibbing Oct 2023 #13
So he endorses legislation . . . gratuitous Oct 2023 #16
He wants the parts that make slavery legal ExWhoDoesntCare Oct 2023 #31
I've read the Bible twice (don't ask lol). I don't think ancianita Oct 2023 #41
Go pick up a tennis ball, and stuff it in your fat fucking self-righteous piehole. hatrack Oct 2023 #17
Read the Bible is a defense for weak minded Johonny Oct 2023 #18
Now, read it. czarjak Oct 2023 #19
I'll take the bible vercetti2021 Oct 2023 #20
Yep Chi67 Oct 2023 #27
You know ismnotwasm Oct 2023 #21
Can I hold it upside-down? Blue Owl Oct 2023 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2023 #24
I will listen to him when he reads and explains in cultural milleu, the original Aramaic sanatanadharma Oct 2023 #25
Pick up a bible and selectively choose the parts you want and ignore the rest. bullimiami Oct 2023 #26
Everybody who adheres to the cult ExWhoDoesntCare Oct 2023 #32
He doesn't know what it means to be a Christian. (nt) stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #35
How about after they pick it up MOMFUDSKI Oct 2023 #28
"This is not about the people themselves". Midnight Writer Oct 2023 #29
Do you want the list of who he hated? ExWhoDoesntCare Oct 2023 #33
The problem is that your Big Book of Bad Ideas ExWhoDoesntCare Oct 2023 #30
Actually it's a book of some good ideas -- not all, but mostly -- it's just that what HE says is in it is not true. ancianita Oct 2023 #37
Fuck that. twodogsbarking Oct 2023 #34
Go pick up Jesus, you cherry pickin' christofascist. ancianita Oct 2023 #36
Bob Marley - Judge Not stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #38
Amen! He knows the Bible better than megamaga mike. ancianita Oct 2023 #40
My Lifestyle NowISeetheLight Oct 2023 #39
Can this nut job do any real damage to our democracy? vapor2 Oct 2023 #43
If I ever find Jesus, I'm kicking his ass maxrandb Oct 2023 #44
Dang. Remember that toilet paper shortage? My Bible didn't survive that! LOL n/t brewens Oct 2023 #45
Maybe bdamomma Oct 2023 #46

ARPad95

(1,672 posts)
1. Then get out of SECULAR government and go be the bigoted preacher that you wannabe,
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 08:48 AM
Oct 2023

JACKASS!

I said, well, go pick up a Bible off your shelf and read it – that’s my worldview. That’s what I believe and so I make no apologies for it.”



thucythucy

(9,043 posts)
5. The Bible also says that evert fifty years there should be a year of Jubilee
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 09:16 AM
Oct 2023

during which all debts are forgiven.

So we're obviously overdue.

Student loans, medical debts, mortgages, credit card debt all should be forgiven.

That's only of course if you truly read and follow the Bible.

Chipper Chat

(10,768 posts)
15. Hmmm...i wonder if he has PLAID UNDERWEAR
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 09:49 AM
Oct 2023

To go with his striped tie. ?
Check out yer Bible Mike.

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
7. Wake Me When He Denounces Divorced Colleagues For Their Damnable Adultery, Sir
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 09:21 AM
Oct 2023

And when he declares that by Biblical authority, clearly God has raised up Joseph Biden to be President over the land, for all in authority are, by quite clear statement in the New Testament, put in place by God.

GuppyGal

(1,748 posts)
8. And that's just fine and dandy Mike, the problem is when you foist that shit on errrrbody else
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 09:23 AM
Oct 2023

ya fucking zealot numbnut.

leftyladyfrommo

(19,955 posts)
9. Oh, boy! At least he's right out front with
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 09:34 AM
Oct 2023

this stuff. Even religious people are really turned off by this kind of talk.

Traildogbob

(12,561 posts)
10. Enough of the Bible shit
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 09:34 AM
Oct 2023

If the GQP want to shit on and shred the first Amendment, the second should be sliced and diced.
Separation of Church and State is clearly stated, and guns, militias and well regulated is as well. The read the “CONTSTITUTION”, as MTG pronounces it, the document she swore on the BUYBULL to protect, just like evilgelicals read that BUYBULL. All up to their own warped interpretation. And we all must live by.

Fla Dem

(27,427 posts)
12. The United States is not governed by the bible, but by the US CONSTITUTION!!!!
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 09:42 AM
Oct 2023

OMG. What has the Republican party become.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
16. So he endorses legislation . . .
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 09:56 AM
Oct 2023

So Mike will enact legislation that makes sure the hungry are fed, the homeless are sheltered, the sick and imprisoned are well cared for? He's going to welcome the alien and succor the widow and the orphan? He'll support economic programs that make sure that those who have much do not have too much and those who have little do not have too little? There's a LOT in the Bible about that, in both the Hebrew and the Christian Testaments.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
31. He wants the parts that make slavery legal
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 01:07 PM
Oct 2023

And selling daughters as sex slaves.

And forcing rape victims to marry their rapists.

And kidnapping and raping women to force them into marriage.

And killing witches and LGBT.

And killing anyone who picks up sticks on the Sabbath.

And murdering disobedient children.

And beating people who offend you.

And forcing women to have abortions.

And killing children for making fun of old guys.

You know. All those parts of the book most of its followers pretend don't exist.

ancianita

(42,896 posts)
41. I've read the Bible twice (don't ask lol). I don't think
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 08:24 PM
Oct 2023

some of what's on your list are really in it, though. Maybe Leviticus, but... Definitely not in the New Testament, which is the actual basis of Christianity.

Just sayin'.

hatrack

(64,253 posts)
17. Go pick up a tennis ball, and stuff it in your fat fucking self-righteous piehole.
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 10:02 AM
Oct 2023

However long this asshole stays in office is going to be way too many days too long.

Johonny

(25,464 posts)
18. Read the Bible is a defense for weak minded
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 10:03 AM
Oct 2023

Thoughts that a person can't defend by logic. The idea liberals haven't read the Bible or aren't religious is silly. These American Taliban types are typically unable to produce sound policies and often simply use bigotry to distract from their number one tenant, greed is good. An idea not generally lavished by his beloved Jesus.

 

vercetti2021

(10,481 posts)
20. I'll take the bible
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 10:07 AM
Oct 2023

And shove it up his slop hole. Fuck you asshole, come and arrest us commander Johnson.

ismnotwasm

(42,663 posts)
21. You know
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 10:24 AM
Oct 2023

I’ve been reading a lot about biblical stuff lately. What the texts say, in context with what would have been the original meaning at the time. “Homosexual orientation” didn’t exist in the minds of the writers, what they were talking about on the OT is taking a passive, penetrative role —like a woman—in other words, it’s misogynistic.
Abortion is in no way condemned in the Bible. They do a lot of biblical tap dancing to claim it does.

If I can do that, anyone can. Lots of info out there.

This horrific take is a deliberate choice. Which creeps me out.

Response to dalton99a (Original post)

sanatanadharma

(4,076 posts)
25. I will listen to him when he reads and explains in cultural milleu, the original Aramaic
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 11:58 AM
Oct 2023

I will listen to him when he reads and explains in cultural milieu, the original Aramaic.

In the meantime I will continue with my teacher of the Sanskrit Upanishads; way deeper than biblical exegesis.

bullimiami

(14,072 posts)
26. Pick up a bible and selectively choose the parts you want and ignore the rest.
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 12:01 PM
Oct 2023

There are a whole lot of thou shalt nots that he is shalt-ing.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
32. Everybody who adheres to the cult
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 01:10 PM
Oct 2023

Picks and chooses what to follow from it. There are no exceptions.

Only a schizophrenic could practice everything it preaches without cognitive dissonance.

Midnight Writer

(25,145 posts)
29. "This is not about the people themselves".
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 12:54 PM
Oct 2023

I'm pretty sure believing that certain folks should be "outlawed" is the definition of "about the people themselves".

Who would Jesus hate?

I'm sure I could scour the Bible and find reasons Speaker Mike Johnson should be "outlawed". Would he take that personally?

I'd rather lawmakers take their political believes from Aesop's Fables than The Bible.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
30. The problem is that your Big Book of Bad Ideas
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 01:00 PM
Oct 2023

Is not law, and nobody is required to follow any of it.

We're a secular government.

Deal with it, Nazi traitor scum.

ancianita

(42,896 posts)
37. Actually it's a book of some good ideas -- not all, but mostly -- it's just that what HE says is in it is not true.
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 07:28 PM
Oct 2023

There's a list of sins Paul describes in Romans, sodomy being among twenty he lists. That's Paul being out there with the Gentiles.
Jesus never said any of that or even hinted that. Jesus believed that Law had an important and honorable place on earth -- not pharasaic law, not Pauline sin lists, but Roman law.

ancianita

(42,896 posts)
36. Go pick up Jesus, you cherry pickin' christofascist.
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 07:22 PM
Oct 2023

Jesus never said anything about homosexuality. But Jesus DID say, and is quoted:

"Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man." John 8:15

"Judge not, that ye be not judged." Matthew 7:1, Luke 6:37, Paul's letter to the Romans 2:1, 14:3-4, 10, 13

NowISeetheLight

(4,002 posts)
39. My Lifestyle
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 07:33 PM
Oct 2023

So I'm a "Lifestyle Choice".

- Worked for a living.
- Honorably discharged disabled veteran.
- Taxpayer.
- Law abiding.
- Cared for elderly parents.
- Care about the environment
- Monogamous and Married.
- Volunteer.
- Homeowner.
- Help my neighbors.
- Care about the poor.
- Donate money to charity.

Just exactly what is the horrible lifestyle I'm living?

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