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kpete

(72,898 posts)
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 05:30 PM Oct 2023

MSNBC : Judge Arthur Engoron just set the schedule for the Trump family to testify in the civil fraud trial.

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: Judge Arthur Engoron just set the schedule for the Trump family to testify in the civil fraud trial.

November 1 — Don Jr.
November 2 — Eric Trump
November 3 — Ivanka Trump
November 6 — Donald Trump


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MSNBC : Judge Arthur Engoron just set the schedule for the Trump family to testify in the civil fraud trial. (Original Post) kpete Oct 2023 OP
Too bad this one isn't televised. Ocelot II Oct 2023 #1
I watched Junior's deposition...his schtick was smarmy and agingdem Oct 2023 #6
Enjoyed reading your post, not least because it is so well written! . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2023 #8
I'm guessing Don, the Jr. has a problem. Should he snort a lot of coke before erronis Oct 2023 #19
Junior..greasy charming, glib agingdem Oct 2023 #23
judges shd b able to order drug tests for witnesses. mopinko Oct 2023 #35
I think you are exactly right on this chicoescuela Oct 2023 #30
What happens if one of them or all don't show up? FarPoint Oct 2023 #2
Good question. Haggard Celine Oct 2023 #3
They have to answer the subpoenas but they don't have to answer questions. 3Hotdogs Oct 2023 #32
I'm not sure that you're correct. Eyeball_Kid Oct 2023 #38
Parallel civil and criminal trials are problematic that way Shermann Oct 2023 #42
The judge should immediately BlueIdaho Oct 2023 #11
I'm just an amateur unfrozen caveman lawyer, I don't fully understand many NY state civil procedures JoseBalow Oct 2023 #14
Your world frightens and confuses me BaronChocula Oct 2023 #16
Don't be sorry, your words are just as true now as they were in my time JoseBalow Oct 2023 #18
Ha! BaronChocula Oct 2023 #28
Funny and spot on. underpants Oct 2023 #27
You got me 😆 underpants Oct 2023 #26
Trump Crime Family Emile Oct 2023 #4
I like Engoron. He doesn't mess around. ananda Oct 2023 #5
translations Takket Oct 2023 #7
'Slippery Snake' speak easy Oct 2023 #9
Thanksgiving at Mar-a-Lago should be interesting this year. Xavier Breath Oct 2023 #10
There'll be lots of "what sticks to the walls" activities. erronis Oct 2023 #21
errr ... you mean WhiteTara Oct 2023 #24
The mashed potatoes may have ketchup on them. Xavier Breath Oct 2023 #25
Fortunately my birthday falls on the Saturday. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2023 #12
Happy birthday to me! PlutosHeart Oct 2023 #13
November 6 - perjury day! tinrobot Oct 2023 #15
Colbert NowISeetheLight Oct 2023 #17
I would love to see this televised.... slightlv Oct 2023 #20
Wow. They all have to testify under oath Demobrat Oct 2023 #22
Yes that going to be quite the dynamic underpants Oct 2023 #29
There is no parent child evidentiary privilege LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2023 #31
This may worry Rump more than anything else. tavernier Oct 2023 #33
A real missed opportunity for a TV ratings blockbuster. hay rick Oct 2023 #34
if he's ever gonna off himself, this will b the week. mopinko Oct 2023 #36
Racist fascist rapist daddy HAD to get down the escalator because... Justice matters. Oct 2023 #37
They really should interview Ivanka first Bucky Oct 2023 #39
Going to be very interesting. republianmushroom Oct 2023 #40
Why aren't these televised? The American people have a right to see these thugs respond to ?s and such, SWBTATTReg Oct 2023 #41

Ocelot II

(129,021 posts)
1. Too bad this one isn't televised.
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 05:33 PM
Oct 2023

I ended up with a lot of popcorn from my CSA subscription, would like to put it to good use. Wonder if Don Jr. will lose his shit altogether. And TFG's testimony will be a perjury festival!

agingdem

(8,769 posts)
6. I watched Junior's deposition...his schtick was smarmy and
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 06:15 PM
Oct 2023

self-deprecating...if the prosecutor is a woman, he'll try to charm her...Eric will come off as his daddy's mini-me, glowering, belligerent ...and Ivanka will reprise her J6 committee taped testimony...Wite-Out concealer, eyes prominent (rimmed in smokey black)..she will feign sincerity as she spews vague answers so as to not piss off daddy and remain the daughter he wants to date...

erronis

(22,650 posts)
19. I'm guessing Don, the Jr. has a problem. Should he snort a lot of coke before
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 07:48 PM
Oct 2023

to be really primed to be ready to take on any and all?

Or should he go into withdrawal for a few hours to look like a pitiful dumb shit?

If it was televised I know he'd go full on. With a Gofundme address stapled to his forehead.

agingdem

(8,769 posts)
23. Junior..greasy charming, glib
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 08:49 PM
Oct 2023

high...no withdrawal, dumb but not pitiful...pitiful and vacant with a touch of "I'm just a baby duck" nuance is Ivanka's schtick..

mopinko

(73,306 posts)
35. judges shd b able to order drug tests for witnesses.
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 09:59 AM
Oct 2023

srsly. so much of the crazy loose in the world today is aided by drugs.

FarPoint

(14,546 posts)
2. What happens if one of them or all don't show up?
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 05:50 PM
Oct 2023

We are in the upside down world so I thought I would ask this question....

Haggard Celine

(17,678 posts)
3. Good question.
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 06:06 PM
Oct 2023

I don't think they'll be able to go back to NY if they decide to ignore the subpoena. Will DeSantis allow them to be extradited?

3Hotdogs

(15,030 posts)
32. They have to answer the subpoenas but they don't have to answer questions.
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 07:30 AM
Oct 2023

BUT their refusal to answer can be used against them in criminal cases.

Correction: Princess Sparkle Pony does have to answer since she is not part of the suit.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,604 posts)
38. I'm not sure that you're correct.
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 11:41 AM
Oct 2023

Civil Fifth Amendment pleas have no bearing on criminal cases and cannot be used as evidence against a defendant. But a judge or jury in a civil trial can draw an inference of culpability when a witness or defendant pleads the Fifth.

Shermann

(9,007 posts)
42. Parallel civil and criminal trials are problematic that way
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 02:17 PM
Oct 2023

I'm sure the lawyers on both sides will attempt to tangle or untangle those entanglements.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
11. The judge should immediately
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 06:51 PM
Oct 2023

Swear out a bench warrant and have the offending family member brought in front of him in cuffs and given the choice to testify or go immediately to a cell for contempt of court.

JoseBalow

(9,159 posts)
14. I'm just an amateur unfrozen caveman lawyer, I don't fully understand many NY state civil procedures
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 07:12 PM
Oct 2023

But there is one thing I do know...

If you deliberately ignore a judge's order, you are subject to a contempt of court charge, with likely an accompanying arrest warrant.

BaronChocula

(4,022 posts)
16. Your world frightens and confuses me
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 07:41 PM
Oct 2023

When I see your people carrying weapons of war when there is no war it makes me think 'are these people possessed by some evil demon who is seeking higher office as a Republican?' I don't know. I'm just a caveman.

Sorry. Off topic, but couldn't resist.

ananda

(34,393 posts)
5. I like Engoron. He doesn't mess around.
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 06:15 PM
Oct 2023

And he doesn't suffer malignant fools lightly!

Xavier Breath

(6,471 posts)
10. Thanksgiving at Mar-a-Lago should be interesting this year.
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 06:48 PM
Oct 2023

In the family tradition, maybe someone will be wearing some mashed potatoes.

Xavier Breath

(6,471 posts)
25. The mashed potatoes may have ketchup on them.
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 09:08 PM
Oct 2023

That sounds like something he would do. But no, I meant potatoes and was referring to the incident, as related by Mary Trump, when her dad dumped mashed potatoes on seven-year-old Donny's head. I can see him doing that to one of his kids if they had the nerve to actually tell the truth on the stand.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,369 posts)
12. Fortunately my birthday falls on the Saturday.
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 06:57 PM
Oct 2023

Don't want any of them raining on my parade.

slightlv

(7,438 posts)
20. I would love to see this televised....
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 07:49 PM
Oct 2023

but near as much as the two criminal trials... which I think, as Americans, we have a right and duty to observe.

Demobrat

(10,262 posts)
22. Wow. They all have to testify under oath
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 08:17 PM
Oct 2023

while daddy sits there glowering at them. And it’s not televised! Not fair!

underpants

(194,839 posts)
29. Yes that going to be quite the dynamic
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 09:59 PM
Oct 2023

I expect them all to do well really.
If Trump taught them anything it’s being presentable when it counts.

tavernier

(14,265 posts)
33. This may worry Rump more than anything else.
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 07:30 AM
Oct 2023

He knows his kids and he knows they aren’t stable geniuses.

hay rick

(9,344 posts)
34. A real missed opportunity for a TV ratings blockbuster.
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 09:40 AM
Oct 2023

Kind of like Shark week- Felony Family Week.

mopinko

(73,306 posts)
36. if he's ever gonna off himself, this will b the week.
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 10:03 AM
Oct 2023

i honestly think his head will explode if vanky throws him under the bus.

so, can the judge order a psyche eval?

Justice matters.

(9,377 posts)
37. Racist fascist rapist daddy HAD to get down the escalator because...
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 10:12 AM
Oct 2023

Well, because Obama made a joke to humiliate him in front of the press corps!

Revenge is a plate served cold!

Had he taken it and refrain from wanting his stupid revenge, none of that would have ever happened, hey kiddos?

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
39. They really should interview Ivanka first
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 11:45 AM
Oct 2023

She's the one most likely to come up with plausible lies to get out of trouble. If she hears the cross-examination of her brothers before going up there, she'll be prepared to dodge and weave in ways that they are mentally incapable of doing.

Plus prosecutors really should want but to increase the chances that Don Jr has been day drinking when he takes the stand

SWBTATTReg

(26,026 posts)
41. Why aren't these televised? The American people have a right to see these thugs respond to ?s and such,
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 01:46 PM
Oct 2023

being that they were in the middle of things during their dad's time in office. We deserve to watch them, see them lie to us on national TV.

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