Remember when the Israelis took out the Iraqi reactor?

[PCIntern]

The worldwide outrage including by virtually the entire Reagan cabinet was gigantic.

Only Alexander Haig prophesied that soon, everyone would thank Israel for their actions, and truly, the militaries of the world were amazed. Minimal casualties resulted, the attack did not disperse the nuclear fuel stored nearby, and that was that for Saddam’s nuclear program. Perfection.

They prevented a worldwide catastrophe but not without the usual condemnations later followed by kudos.

My guess is that there’s going to be some big surprises before this is over, including but not limited to much lesser casualty figures from Gaza, since they have been relying upon terrorist numbers. The fogging by the anti-Israel forces is extreme. In the end, the truth will out.

[ripcord]

1. Hey Israel, Iran supplied Hamas and they are building a reactor

Just a suggestion.

[yagotme]

2. Bet Iraq didn't park their program in the middle of town, surrounded by hospitals and schools, either.

Surgical strikes are more effective, the further civilians are away from it. Something others on this board seem to have a hard time grasping.

[PCIntern]

4. It was in the middle of a dense area of a Baghdad suburb.

You’d lose that bet.

[yagotme]

6. 11 miles from Baghdad. Current picture below.

I don't feel too bad about that bet...

[PCIntern]

9. There were many more buildings there and Nuclear fuel stored next door

If hit, would have been catastrophic for the region. 11 total casualties , most from Iraqi anti-aircraft shelling. It was described as a nuclear Oz with many many facilities and hundreds of people and families present. They hit the reactor building only.

Your photo is what is there currently after everything else was torn down.

[yagotme]

23. The buildings/foundations present were probably for the workers/families.

The desert to the north and east don't look like they have had any major construction. Appears to be desert. If it had been built on, I would suspect a lot more disturbance on the ground, outlines of foundations, etc. "Middle of suburban area" doesn't seem to fit this photo. Perhaps that was a propaganda statement from Iraq to make the world think Israel was trying to bomb civilians. Seems to be a recurring theme over there...

[JohnSJ]

3. No they won't, and I think you know the reason why. It is the

elephant in the room, and has nothing to do with the deplorable actions of Netanyahu.

This place is becoming a very unpleasant place

[Big Blue Marble]

5. There will actually more deaths than have been counted not less.

Thousands are buried under the rubble under the third of Gaza that has been destroyed
include more than a thousand children who were crushed slowly to death.

Others are dying from starvation, dehydration, and disease..

The count will go up not down. Even our state department and international NGO's
have found previous death counts from the other four attacks of Gaza to be accurate
And with the intense bombing, lack of communication and displacement, it is harder to count the dead.

This is a major humanitarian crisis that is only going to get worse.

[Chautauquas]

7. So the numbers are off?

That's your guess anyway. They're claiming more than 3,000 children killed. What's your guess, only 1,000 or 2,000?

[PCIntern]

11. They said the Israelis killed 500 people

At the hospital, it turned out that not only were the Israelis not responsible, but there were only about 40 people killed. By Hamas rockets. Believe what you wish.

[marble falls]

19. Link?

[Magoo48]

20. Only: adverb, (as little as) example-- "only about 40 people killed".

Well shit, that ain’t nothin’. Except, of course, if it is your grandma, or grandpa, or baby sister, or the kids from next door.

[yagotme]

24. "500 killed by Israelis!!!" World: CONDEMN ISRAEL!!!

"Oops! Rocket from Gaza kills 40, not 500, and not Israel!" World: Yawn. Perhaps you should have kept reading the post. I think you missed the last 2 sentences. The important ones.

[Mossfern]

25. They were killed by a Hamas rocket

[manicdem]

22. Hamas can surrender

And end the war immediately.

Palestinian Authority, who have maintained their cease fire in the west bank, can take over and work for peace with Israel.

[Chautauquas]

29. That would be the best case scenario

but you and I both know Hamas is not going to surrender, so it's pointless for you and others to keep bringing it up as a way to stop the killing. Another way of ending the fighting must be found and eventually will be found.

[Hekate]

8. KnR

[T_A]

10. Ah, No

Remember when the Israelis took out the Iraqi reactor?

That wasn't a nuclear reactor. It was the wrong shape for a containment facility.

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My guess is that there’s going to be some big surprises before this is over, including but not limited to much lesser casualty figures from Gaza, since they have been relying upon terrorist numbers.

Except 'BBC Verify' and 'Human Rights Watch' are both independently tracking and corroborating the Gaza death numbers released by them, which they say are accurate.

UNICEF also reports their numbers closely match those of the Health Ministry:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/unicef-defends-accuracy-of-gaza-death-toll-as-horror-unfolds-in-ravaged-enclave/ar-AA1jzMpH

[AZSkiffyGeek]

12. Expert on the shape of nuclear reactors now?

Did you hear that on live radio or did you actually do some research?
And your link still doesn't say what you claim it does.

[T_A]

13. Of Course It Does

[AZSkiffyGeek]

14. Space and time bent for you?

Historical does not mean current. But you’ve been told that multiple times and keep repeating it, so I guess you still don’t understand reading conprehension. Or else you are deliberately sharing misinformation.
What is the word for people who go on Message boards and share misinformation?

[Mossfern]

26. Doody heads!

Just needed to de-stress ...

Carry on.

[PCIntern]

16. Oh yeah...the UN

Sorry…I can’t stop laughing.

[progree]

15. And then there is Stuxnet that crippled the Iranian nuclear program for awhile - likely a joint U.S. - Israeli project

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet

[marble falls]

17. The two situations do not compare.

[Magoo48]

18. I'm not rooting for Hamas terrorists or the Israeli military.

I’m against blood lust and indiscriminate slaughter no matter who the fuck does it.

[PCIntern]

21. That's great.

I went to a Quaker school. My mom taught in a Quaker school. If it were up to them, the Nazis would have taken over the world.

[TexasDem69]

27. If those are the two options

I’m certainly rooting for the Israeli military. And I’ve seen no evidence that Israel is engaging in “indiscriminate slaughter.” You must be thinking of Hamas

[Kennah]

28. No one is going to oppose Israel

The US is probably the only nation that can project power into the region in an effort to challenge Israel, and that won't happen. The US will stand with Israel in order to prevent them getting back on their heels and going nuclear.

So who might come to the aid of Hamas? Russia? China?

Hezbollah, maybe, but they've been very reserved, and I think they know the US would strike them just as the US has struck sites in Syria.

Iran? How? Missiles? Maybe. But the US and Israel and maybe even both Iraq and Saudi Arabia would shoot at Iranian missiles sent towards Israel.

Iraq? No.

Saudi Arabia? If MBS wins out, no. The King, maybe, but I'm betting on Mohammed Bonesaw Salman.