How hard is it to condemn Hamas' rape of Israeli women, Rep. Jayapal?

[mcar]

This has me fuming.

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Good on
@DanaBashCNN
to continually press
@RepJayapal
on condemning Hamas’ horrific sexual violence against Israeli women. Jayapal repeatedly said she spoke out specifically against the sexual violence but has apparently not done so, at least on X.

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HOLY SMOKES. The clip is HORRIFYING. Jayapal scolds Israel: "If they do not comply with international humanitarian law..."

CNN's Dana Bash was having none of it: "With respect, I was just asking about the women, and you turned it back to Israel..."

Jaypal: "...We have to be balanced about bringing in the outrages against Palestinians..."

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When asked about why there hasn’t been more outrage about Hamas’s rape of Israeli women Rep Jayapal says sexual violence should be condemned but “we have to be balanced” in our condemnation.

[Sal_NV]

1. I have no words for her hypocrisy.

[NCIndie]

4. Odd. I saw nothing hypocritical in her comments.

Could you please be specific?

[Sal_NV]

7. Odd, I saw plenty of hypocrisy in her statements.

When did Israel rape and murder innocent Palestinian women?
She is saying that rape of women is common in war time, but I've yet to see any reports of Israeli soldiers raping and murdering civilians.
Maybe I missed it, if so, please provide a link.

[Marcus IM]

11. A simple google search will yield a lot of results.

But, like DU, there's a wide range of deeply held animosities and agendas therein.

https://www.google.com/search?q=IDF+rape+of+palestinian+women

[GuppyGal]

64. A simple read from your simple google search says that it's a "RARITY" nt

[NCIndie]

16. Again, very odd.

If not Israeli soldiers, who do you think in murdering Palestinian civilians? If you don't consider those launching missiles to be soldiers, you are sadly mistaken.

No one in this discussion is suggestion that Israelis are raping Palestinian women. Using your words: maybe I missed it. Please provide a link.

[NCIndie]

2. I have no idea about her history of condemning rape.

But in this clip, she was emphatic in he condemnation. And totally correct in saying that “one war crime deserves another.”

I see nothing wrong with her comments.

[mcar]

6. She makes one quick comment about condemning Hamas

Pivots to "I wrote something 20 years ago condemning rape in war," and then says, "but Israel..."

If you say yes, this is bad, but..., you are saying that it's really not bad and oh, it's just something that happens in war.

I see a lot wrong in her comments.

Like my OP said, how hard is it to condemn Hamas' rape of Israeli women? I'll add: how hard is it to do that, period, without adding a but Israel is worse-type comment.

[NCIndie]

18. She condemned the rape of Israeli women by Hamas at least three times in the clip.

So, yeah, it's not hard to condemn rape, and she did so repeatedly.

Are you somehow suggesting that raping women justifies Israel's slaughter of civilians? I am not trying to wrongfully attribute words to you; it's a sincere question.

[mcar]

22. Every comment was this is bad, but

My entire point is how hard is it to condemn Hamas' rape of Israeli women? Period. Without a but Israel.

In response to your question, are you aware that Hamas massacred 1200 civilians on Oct. 7, thus starting this war? They beheaded babies, slaughtered teenagers, the elderly. They filmed it all and cheered their atrocities. Are you aware that Hamas uses it own citizens as human shields? That it has been proven over and over again that they embed themselves in hospitals, schools, mosques, apartment buildings? Are you aware of any of that?

Are you somehow suggesting that Hamas was justified in slaughtering innocent people, raping girls and women and kidnapping babies? I am not trying to wrongfully attribute words to you; it's a sincere question.

[NCIndie]

25. So, the answer to my question is "yes"? Fair enough.

Any literate human who has read or watched the news in the past month knows what Hamas did. They are murderers of the first order. Period.

And I think that is your point: Hamas's atrocities justify whatever happens to them, and if others are killed in ridding the world of Hamas, well, too bad. Collateral damage.

I do not share this view.

[mcar]

27. Do not put words in my mouth

[NCIndie]

30. LOL!!!! I asked you a sincere question, and your response was your answer.

You had ample opportunity to answer the question, but you chose to turn up the volume of your previous arguments (rants).

It isn't too late: tell me that my inference is wrong.

[MyNameIsJonas]

85. That woman being raped is wrong but...

She asked for it by wearing what she was wearing.

That's how you sound. By your logic, I condemned the rape so no biggie, right?

[NCIndie]

86. Wow. That was really disappointing.

I opened that comment fully expecting something interesting. But, it was such a let down.

Your transparent baiting, poor writing, and weak insult are so cliched. Please, work on your craft.

[MyNameIsJonas]

87. Good. That's how I felt about your reply.

Your whole point is trash. Adding any qualifier to the question minimizes the response. There is no "but" to what she was asked. Just as there is no "but" to the comment about opposing rape in general.

You either oppose it or you don't. Your simplistic attempt to justify her comments is offensive and wouldn't be employed when discussing rape in general.

[NCIndie]

90. Aspirational mediocrity. That's an impressive goal.

Perhaps with some work, you can get there. Maybe you can practice here:

What exactly would be the Representative's reply that would meet the criterion of "condemning Hamas' rape of Israeli women"? Keep in mind she said precisely that three times during the clip of the interview.

[MyNameIsJonas]

92. Condemning it without qualifiers. It's not hard.

Condeming something and adding a "but" to it is not really condemning. It's something insincere people do and that exactly sums up her answer and your defense.

[NCIndie]

93. Very poor answer! You are right on track in achieving your goal.

She didn't qualify her answer. The "but" to which you refer was refusing to justify Israel's heavy-handed response for any reason.

Perhaps you do? Do you feel that the rape of women justifies the killing of thousands of civilians who had nothing to do with it? (Unlike you, I am NOT suggesting you would justify Israel's war crimes by pointing to Hamas' crimes; I am asking the question.)

Give it your worst shot! You can(not) do it!!!

[MyNameIsJonas]

94. Look at you trying to twist yourself into a logical pretzel to justify her comments.

"When she condemned Hamas but added a 'but (or however lmao)' at the end what she really meant was..."



When the discussion is Hamas raping women, the only answer is to condemn the raping. It's that simple. The question wasn't about Israel's response - the question was about Hamas raping women. Her answer was to deflect and was abradant and no different than those who say they condemn rape and then say, "but women need to dress more appropriately".

The question was solely about Hamas raping women and she still had to make it about Israel.

But it's not a surprise. Those who hate Jews will always turn the argument back toward Israel.

[demmiblue]

10. I don't either.

[Happy Hoosier]

14. It was a giant "yeah, but..."

It comes off as “all lives matter!”

She should be able to condemn rape as a weapon by Hamas without immediately pivoting to attacking Israel.

It comes off as apologizing for the rape.

Just condemn the rape and leave it at that. Plenty of other opportunities to criticize Israel without “whatabouting” rape.

[NCIndie]

19. I strongly disagree with what you are heaping on her.

You say:

She should be able to condemn rape as a weapon by Hamas without immediately pivoting to attacking Israel.

It comes off as apologizing for the rape.

Is it impossible for both things to be true? To be disgusted by rape as a weapon of war and repulsed by the killing of innocent civilians?

[Mossfern]

37. Absolutely both can be true

but when one pivots almost immediately, somehow it can be considered as conflating the two and apologetics for the rapes. Did she acknowledge that it was Hamas that broke the cease fire?

Oops....

[sheshe2]

35. Emphatic in her condemnation?

Her response wasn't forceful, clear or without doubt. It was a sentence and then flipped back to Israel.

[GuppyGal]

65. If she was so emphatic in the condemnation why all the 'confusion'..... exactly !!! nt

[sheshe2]

66. This!

[mcar]

3. More

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.
@RepJayapal
, most wars don’t feature premeditated rape as part of the war plan.

Individual acts of rape from lack of discipline, which tragically does occur in war, is different than “preconceived and premeditated” rapes, which as one leading expert told me was Hamas’ plan.

[Srkdqltr]

5. Frankly, i think both sides are so guilty in this for same and different reasons.

I hate the leaders of both sides for putting everyone on the spot to have to take sides. I hate the leadership for putting Biden on the spot and maybe causing damage to him. I hate the leadership for the horrible damage they are causing to us all. I frankly hate Netanyahu and the leadership of Hamas and anyone who is pushing this.

[mcar]

8. I don't understand what you are saying here

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Both sides meaning Hamas and Israel? Both sides meaning Democrats and Republicans?

[Sal_NV]

9. Where are the reports of Israeli soldiers raping and murdering Palestinian women?

I must have missed those, if so, then please provide some links to the allegations.

[Marcus IM]

13. Here. A simple google search.

Same link I posted upthread. Many contain/reveal a wide range of deeply held animosities and agendas therein.


https://www.google.com/search?q=IDF+rape+of+palestinian+women

[womanofthehills]

54. A photo used by Israel as a rape victim was actually an older photo believed to be a Turkish woman

The Israeli govt has published a new FAKE photo purporting to show a victim of rape by Hamas militants at the Nova music festival on October 7

The image predates 10/7 and likely shows a female Kurdish fighter killed in action whose corpse was defiled. They are described on a Japanese website as "beautiful Kurdish soldiers killed on the battlefield." The post is dated from May 2023.

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[sarisataka]

57. Do you recall the AI photo

Of a supposed Palestinian man carrying children out of a bombed neighborhood?

At the time the fact that it was a fake was dismissed. The justification was "even if it wasn't accurate it was representative of what did happen."

[womanofthehills]

72. This is not fake - the links will take

You to the original site the photo was posted on early this yr and then the Israel gov site with the same photos. Shame on Israel.

“The Israeli govt has published a new FAKE photo purporting to show a victim of rape by Hamas militants at the Nova music festival on October 7

The image predates 10/7 and likely shows a female Kurdish fighter killed in action whose corpse was defiled. They are described on a Japanese website as "beautiful Kurdish soldiers killed on the battlefield." The post is dated from May 2023.

Here's the Japanese site where the original image can be seen: carro-groce.com/guro-gazou/324…

The Israeli Foreign Ministry has published the fake photo here: hamas-massacre.net/categories/the…

Below is the original photo beside the one just published on Israel's "Hamas Massacre" site and presented to highly suggestible foreign journalists. (I concealed part of the deceased person's exposed lower torso on the latter image).

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?s=46&t=YZgyyp4w_z7vW3neKxa6cQ

[JustAnotherGen]

82. Rape is rape is rape

Human rights investigators say that they believe that sexual violence and gender-based violence was carried out by Hamas, including mutilation. But they are not yet certain about the scale and there is not a large amount of evidence that is available to human rights organizations.

The most voluminous evidence is of bodily mutilation of sexual organs by bullet, knife or even scissors, according to an NBC News analysis of the evidence currently available. “They had a thing with sexual organs, both in women and men,” a first responder told police in videotaped testimony.

Israeli officials pointed to a Hamas pamphlet discovered on Nov. 2 that gives detailed instructions about how to pronounce phrases in Hebrew including “raise your hands and open your legs” and “take off your pants.”

During interrogations, captured Hamas militants talked about raping women and children as a Hamas tactic of war. “To have our way with them, to dirty them, to rape them,” said one Hamas militant during a videotaped interrogation.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/hamas-rape-israeli-women-oct-7-rcna128221

[JustAnotherGen]

12. Impossible for her

We could solve the issue of black American maternal health if the Squad folks could be as disciplined in their messaging as they are about letting Hamas off the hook for sexual violence against women in Israel on October 7th.

[jmbar2]

15. Honestly, I don't get the criticism either...

Being against the ongoing violence against Palestinian civilians and children does not mean that you are not outraged by the rapes. How much outrage against the rapes is enough? Who determines whether you have adequately expressed enough outrage over the rapes? What are the agreed upon criteria?

It is a classic disinformation gambit. No matter what she says, she is in the wrong. It is compassionate to want to stop suffering on both sides.

[mcar]

17. As post #14 says, it was a giant "yeah, but..."

Why couldn't she condemn Hamas' rape of women, period? That part of her comment is almost offhand and when Bash presses her, she continues to pivot to Israel.

I agree with poster #14, it's like saying "all lives matter."

[ecstatic]

53. But both "sides" are doing it

If there are sides. I think we're all on the same side.

I understand the anger and outrage at what may appear to be flippant responses to Israeli women being raped. Let me be 100% clear: The violent and deadly attack on October 7th was horrible and inexcusable. The raping of Israeli women is an absolutely terrible war crime! No ifs ands or buts about it. The taunting and harassment of Jewish people in this country and other countries is antisemitism. Period!

All of that said, it would be really nice if everyone walked away from this conversation with a little bit of self-awareness, which would mean acknowledging that the same anger and outrage is felt on the other side when any reference to thousands of Palestinians women and children being bombed and killed is dismissed or deflected with a reference to "hamas."

15,000+ Palestinians, mostly women and children, have been killed!

Yeah, but hamas.

Proportionally, 15,000 killed in Gaza is equivalent to over 2.4 million Americans. Can you imagine if another country killed that many of us in response to the actions of American terrorists? Would it be okay?

I'm not bringing this up to be another "yeah but" on this board, but because I'm hoping that maybe we can start listening to each other instead of talking at each other. I still believe that the vast majority of us are on the same side.

This conflict is so horrifying and the worldwide fallout is also disgusting to watch. Democrats and progressives seem to be turning against each other. Comments are being taken out of context for the purpose of silencing or demonizing the other. The pain is real. The entire situation is awful and what really sucks is that this might be what provides the opening for trump to get back in office!

[TheKentuckian]

73. I don't have to imagine the response

of how this country would respond even at proportionally like 5% or 10% of 10/7 as happened on 9/11.

I also don't have to imagine what would be the outcome of tens and hundreds of thousands hiding behind human shields because I've seen the response even without having to get even go that far.

Hell, we destroyed a country that had nothing to do with it all and killed humdreds of thousands or maybe a million in the process while absolutely hand waiving Saudi Arabia and got into a twenty year debacle killing God only knows how many in Afghanistan when the bulk of the problem was actually in Pakistan before turning the whole mess back over significantly to the people we said we were invading about.

The tune changes quick with some fat in the fire.
Many wringing their mitts now were stone cold idiots caught up in the lies and bloodlust, shouted down with great vehemence any that had sense enough to call it the wrong war from the tip. The bulk if the rest just were't alive or aware at the time.

We funded literal Death Squads in South America "in fear" of communism. We killed almost without number in Vietnam and got tens of thousands of our own zilched out in the process and damage so many more. Same bull. Nobody raised so much as a hand to us. Korea little different.

How would we feel? You've seen it time and time again and will be paying for it for generations too, if we manage to live to live long enough as a county and/or a species.

No nation on the globe would respond any better and many including and especially us would respond far more poorly and do so even with much less reason, no matter how many lies we tell ourselves.

Gaza would be a Walmart, like three casinos, an Applebees, and a parking lot yeeeeeaaaarrrrs ago if we had anything resembling just the non adjusted numbers of acts of terrorism much less if you correct for population.

Show me the nation that provides a better example under like circumstances.

I'll wait.

I know you have no such answer though because there is no analogous situation but the closer you get to it, the examples get worse rather than better as far as I can tell.

This isn't any run of the mill terrorism either.

Hamas is by hook or by crook the government and that government is using their people as human shields while being embedded in the population in a densely packed urban setting.
A significant portion of that population being between sympathetic to functionally a reserve force for said government.

There is no model and there is no living with Hamas. Certainly no democracy will tolerate it and even authoritarian governments would likely fall if they blatantly refused to protect their own people because doing so would put too many lives of the people lobbing bombs at them and busting through on occasion to murder, rape, and kidnap them.

Anyone who gives a tinker's fart in a hurricane about the Palestinian people the actual people would have their first priority as eliminating the barbarians and getting them rational leadership that can actually get them a homeland and that homeland comes with necessary preconditions.

There will be no death to Israel by any means and as a Jewish state. There is nothing to discuss further on this point.

Base law will recognize the right of Israel to exist. Israel will do the the same for Palestine as part of the treaty.

Palestine by base law shall not be a haven for nor fund terrorism.

It won't be easy from there but I figure that is the bare minimum to start any process that isn't going to go very poorly.

[nycbos]

20. Because apparently the new mantra is believe women unless they're Jewish apparently.

It's disgusting.

Of course, they can't condemn for breaking the cease-fire or for using Palestinian civilians as human shields.

[David__77]

23. She gave a good response.

[mcar]

26. I should not have to say this in 2023 but here we are: RAPE IS RAPE.

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I should not have to say this in 2023 but here we are: RAPE IS RAPE.

Do not minimize, excuse, “balance” or “both sides” sexual assault - that is victim blaming we have spent decades trying to undo in the laws, the courts and the hearts and minds of the people. #WeSaidEnough

[Cha]

44. No Jaypal did NOT. , "You don't see Israeli soldiers raping Palestinian women."

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[Oopsie Daisy]

61. Rape and sexual violence against Israeli women calls for nothing less than unequivocal condemnation.

Rape and sexual violence against Israeli women calls for nothing less than unequivocal condemnation. Israel did not invade Palestinian homes and rape and sexually violate Palestinian women. Hamas did invade Israeli homes and did rape and sexually violate Israeli women. There is no “balance” or “both sides” or “moral equivalence” here. Period.

[Cha]

63. Rec Yes, and Jaypal didn't do that.

[Oopsie Daisy]

68. I wonder if (or hope) someone will primary her.

[NoRethugFriends]

76. She sure as hell did not

[LexVegas]

24. At least shes honest in not really giving a shit. nt

[NCIndie]

28. LOL! And you are not being honest in that assessment of her.

Of, irony!

[Donkees]

31. Steve Guest: Special Advisor for Communications @ Sen Ted Cruz Rapid Response Director @ Republican National Comm.

STEVE GUEST'S WORK
Special Advisor for Communications @ Senator Ted Cruz
Rapid Response Director @ Republican National Committee
Deputy Rapid Response Director @ Republican National Committee
Deputy Press Secretary @ Republican National Committee

[lapucelle]

36. Repesentative Jayapal said what she said.

[marble falls]

32. It seems hard for everyone involved to condem war crimes/crimes against humanity ...

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Hamas rapists need to be arrested and tried and imprisoned.

[lapucelle]

34. "Hamas rapists need to be arrested"? Who is going to arrest them?

[marble falls]

49. No one will stop either side. This is a rinse and repeat situation. That said: rapists and murderers of children ...

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... on both sides need to be arrested, tried and jailed.

[Mossfern]

84. The difference is quite simple

Israel does not seek out children to torture and kill up close and personal.

[Cha]

89. So Glaringly DIFFERENT! Shocking some Don't

Get That.

Mahalo!

[Cha]

38. Mahalo, mcar!! Good to have the LIGHT SHINING on

on this!!

[mcar]

41. It's not easy, Cha

Thank you for the support.

[Cha]

42. I know .. too bad for anyone who

doesn't want to see it.

Mahalo for your Support!

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[LetMyPeopleVote]

39. Thank you for posting this

[sarisataka]

40. Apparently impossible

Without checking for "balance"

[Tribetime]

43. She's dead to me..as Kevin Oleary says

[maxrandb]

45. Show me any war in the entire history of mankind

and I will show you rape being used as a weapon by one side, the other, or both.

Show me any war in the history of mankind and I will show you one side, the other, or both, waving the bloody shirt of rape, or atrocious behavior, like murdering children, being used to dehumanize an entire group of people.

If war has taught us anything, it's that it's much easier to murder, crush and blow people to bits, if you first depict them as animals and savages.

It amps up the bloodlust.

[Cha]

46. I have an Idea! Why doesn't m$m Get somebody

on who actually cares about Israeli Women being Violently Raped and then Shot in the head?

Let's get their POV.

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[Chi67]

81. Well

This is probably happening to Palestinian women too. If they survived the bombings.

[betsuni]

47. K&R

[Behind the Aegis]

48. "How hard is it to condemn Hamas' rape of Israeli women, Rep. Jayapal?"

Well, given some here are making excuses, I guess we can ascertain it is VERY difficult to condemn rape of "Jewesses".

[mcar]

52. It's really disheartening

I didn't think I'd get this much pushback on something that should be obvious - rape is an abomination.

[yardwork]

50. So Jayapal is equating Palestine with HAMAS?

[Chainfire]

51. Rape is a terrible crime, there is no way of legitimizing it as a weapon of war.

I morn for the people that were killed, raped and injured on Oct. 7. My heart goes out to their survivors and neighbors. It was a great injustice. The men who carried out the crime have forfeited their right to live among us.

The problem that some of us have is that Israel has killed and estimated 10,000 women and children, who were not guilty of rape or murder, in punishment for the crimes of Oct. 7. Another 5,000 Palestinian men have died in the bombing and shelling, but since some of them may have been involved in the original sin, we won't count them... The domestic parallel to what is happening in Palestine would be if we punished a rapist and murderer by burning down the whole city where he lived; people an all.

Do not confuse vengeance with justice.
One crime does not justify another.
All lives matter.

[Wingus Dingus]

55. "But"....are there seriously "buts" in rape as a terror tactic? I didn't know that.

"Yeah they totally shouldn't rape, but Israel totally shouldn't be defending itself from the rapey terrorist hordes, either, 'cause not ALL Palestinians raped their women! It's unfair! COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT BLAHBITTY BLAHHH!"

[Happy Hoosier]

56. Yup... I'm seeing FAR too many "condemnations" with a "but" at the end. Disgraceful NT

[mcar]

58. "Yeah, Hamas did some bad things but, LOOK OVER THERE!"

The squirrel defense.

[Oopsie Daisy]

69. Indeed!

[Chi67]

80. Honestly?

It's not that hard to look "over there" anymore. Hamas is terrible, no doubt. But Israel's reaction is insane. In my whole life, I have never seen anything like this. How much blood do you need? How many people need to die to make you feel better?

I survived the AIDS epidemic in the 80s as a gay man. Would I be justified in killing every Republican who ever existed because of all the horrible things they did? Because, trust me, they did a LOT. I lost a lot of friends because they would not even allow research into HIV/AIDS. Tons of lives were lost back then.

But this upsets you after years of bullshit on both sides? Is this what keeps you up at night? Revenge? What innocent Palestinian has ever hurt you?

[EX500rider]

88. " In my whole life, I have never seen anything like this."

Just how old are you then?

Battle of Grozny-1999


Second Battle of Fallujah-2004


Popasna-Ukraine


Battle of Mariupol-Ukraine


Taiz-Yemen




Etc

[Goddessartist]

59. Why are you sharing right wing GOP crap? Why are you attacking my Representative, a Democrat?

Steve Guest
@SteveGuest
Conservative communicator. Alum of:
@TedCruz
@GOP

Washington, DC

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She didn't say what you wanted her to say or how you wanted her to say it.

WTF???!!!

[Oopsie Daisy]

60. Oh please ... "attacking?" ... LOL

Nobody is being attacked. Nice try, though.

[mcar]

62. I'm "attacking" her by

sharing her own words?

[Goddessartist]

74. Oh look!

The 'Israel can do no wrong - criticizing Israel is antisemitic' crowd is being completely obtuse.

What, are you spanking her for her words? Sharing a far right tweet attacking her?

Oh and it's so funny, isn't it? Jesus.

Her words are fine. Yours are not.

[Cha]

70. Jaypal's words were posted.. She didn't

Condemn the Rape and Torture of Israeli women.

[Chi67]

79. I condemn it

Now explain to me why over 10000 Palestinians have to pay the price for it.

Never mind. I will just be called anti-semitic. There is nothing any rational person could see here other than revenge. I get it. Revenge feels good in the short term. But long term it just makes monsters out of everyone.

I condemned our government for invading Iraq after 9/11. It was wrong. It was VERY wrong. Does that make me anti-US?

This is wrong too, for the same reasons. Killing innocent people helps nothing. It just makes more enemies.

[iemanja]

91. The clip is Jaypal in her own words

You focus on the author of the tweet to distract from that fact.

[maxsolomon]

67. She didn't condemn rape on Twitter?

This is an outrage!

Everyone must use Musk's pet platform to condemn rape, or they will be held accountable.

[Polybius]

71. I'm not a big fan of PayPal, but it looks like she condemned it

The video shows that she does, but then goes into "bothsidesism." That's where she made her mistake.

[Cha]

75. Kicking

[revmclaren]

77. Kick for continued visibility.

🕍😥

[Cha]

78. Mahalo Rev.. Rec.. yes this

shouldn't got down the memory hole.

[CincyDem]

83. I wonder if she's even bothered to watch the videos from 10/7. n/t