Taylor Swift 2023 Times Person of the Year

[irisblue]

Taylor Swift has been named 2023 Person of the Year by TIME magazine, beating out a host of finalists who over the last 12 months dominated politics, entertainment and more.
https://www.cbsnews.com › news

[malaise]

1. Well deserved

😀

[brush]

101. Yep, bet trump is so jealous. He's never won a Nobel or Man of the Year.

And she's a progressive, just the opposite of his maga behind.

[EYESORE 9001]

2. My favorite billionaire

Despite knowing next to nothing about her music, her voter registration activities have endeared her to me.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

3. I'm kinda glad.

[John Shaft]

4. I'm old

I hate most computer-created-auto tune-treble-up-to-11-digital modern music, can't stand it. In my opinion, it isn't even music. Just one old jagoff's opinion.

BUTTTTTTT

May Tiny Infant Baby Jesus bless this woman, may she enjoy continued success, and if the kids dig it, more power to them - this is their world.

If Taylor Swift can mobilize voters too, SWEEEET! Bonus. Glad she seems like a kind person.

[niyad]

9. Welcome to our DU family.

[John Shaft]

64. Thank you

[irisblue]

65. Welcome to DU

[John Shaft]

73. Thank you very much

[greymattermom]

10. My nephew met her.

He was working at the St, Petersburg yacht club getting boats ready, and he worked on her Dad's boat to help get ready for a pre tour dad and Taylor trip. Word is she's very nice and tips well.

[Rebl2]

38. It's

not just kids who like her. When she was here in KCMO last summer local news coverage showed a large mix of ages attending her concerts. I don’t know her music all that well myself.

[mwb970]

80. Your description does not describe her music at all.

Have you actually listened to any of her songs?

Sorry to say this, but the flippant bit about "the kids" does make you sound like a crabby old man and is kind of an insult to her older fans. I'm 74, and she is the best thing I've found musically since The Beatles. She appeals to all ages, not just "the kids".

[MOMFUDSKI]

5. Good for her!

She not only got the kids to the polls but gave each of her truck drivers $100K bonuses. Bubblegum music 🎶 but the lyrics say a lot. Great choice by Time.

[Emile]

6. Good, well deserved!

[Oopsie Daisy]

7. Link goes to "Attacks in Texas" story.

[niyad]

11. Scroll down, it is the third story.

[Paladin]

8. Better her than trump or one of his goons. (nt)

[marmar]

12. Good for her. She's done some important, good things.

But good grief I'm sick to death of hearing her (and Travis Kelce's) names.

[Emile]

13. Iris here is the link you need to the story.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/taylor-swift-time-2023-person-of-the-year/

[SleeplessinSoCal]

23. From your link

"The pop star's "Eras Tour" became a cornerstone of the summer's pop cultural zeitgeist, with the Federal Reserve even saying at one point that the concert boosted tourism and travel to such an extent that it likely helped to revitalize the economy."

[chia]

29. And in Chicago:

Link to tweet

?s=20

[Lucky Luciano]

75. I believe that. My apartment has a view from the 62nd floor of soldier field. Three days in a row packed to the brim.

[Swede]

14. This is a good thing, in this world of rage and depression.

She is a decent person on top of her talent.

[milestogo]

15. Its a feel-good choice.

She's totally likable.

[LakeArenal]

16. She's singing all the way to the bank. 🎶🎶

Love her and the woke Barbie movie.

[Fla Dem]

17. Good! Well deserved. She's brought some joy to the world during these days of gloom and doom.

[BobTheSubgenius]

18. pfffft...

[TheProle]

37. For real

When your "big break" involves daddy buying 3% of the record company signing you, the path is much smoother. Sounds like the old "born on third base and thinks she hit a triple" stuff.

At a showcase in Nashville's Bluebird Cafe in 2005, Swift caught the attention of Scott Borchetta, a record executive who was preparing to form an independent record label, Big Machine Records. She became one of Big Machine's first signings, with her father purchasing a three percent share of the company.

https://www.theswiftmuseum.com/life-and-career

And then, of course, let's ignore that her carbon footprint is 637 times yours or mine:

While Swift does not flaunt her jets, she is on the top of the celebrity list in terms of carbon emissions from traveling in private planes. On July 29, Yard, which tracks celebrities’ private plane use, noted: “Taylor Swift might be today's pop princess, but Yard's research found that Miss Swift is the biggest celebrity CO2e polluter of this year so far… Her total flight emissions for the year come in at 8,293.54 tonnes.” For reference, as per the World Bank, in 2020, the average global per capita carbon emission was 4.3 tons. This means Swift's private jet footprint alone was 1,928 times the global average. Or, more conservatively, it was 637 times the U.S. per capita carbon emissions of 13 tons.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/prakashdolsak/2023/08/02/taylor-swift-and-climate-change-is-the-youth-shaking-off-or-embracing-carbon-intensive-lifestyles/?sh=33354a195c08

[NoMoreRepugs]

50. Thinking her 'positives' outweigh her 'negatives' for young girls and society as a whole by 637 times.

[TheProle]

51. Whatever works for you.

[NoMoreRepugs]

52. Pretty sure I'm not alone in that line of reasoning. (Time Person of the Year 2023.)

[TheProle]

54. Of course not

I'm okay being in the minority opinion and just shared a couple of facts. Dismiss them at your leisure.

I don't need to sit at the cool kids table.

[NoMoreRepugs]

62. All seats filled at the moment.

[LuvLoogie]

106. Heh

[progressoid]

56. The carbon footprint of most mega-stars is enormous.

Last year it was Bad Bunny and Elton John and every football team etc. Entertainment is a huge draw on resources.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

66. Hm.

"Did Taylor Swift’s Dad Buy Her Career?

The short answer is, no. But you wouldn’t believe that from listening to Taylor Swift detractors or reading the comment threads on Swift articles. Quick to discount the young songstress, this is the first accusation you will see of why Taylor Swift’s success is a sham."

https://www.savingcountrymusic.com/did-taylor-swifts-dad-buy-her-career/

From your own link, in fact, right before your cherry picked quote:

"In Nashville, Taylor started working with songwriter Liz Rose during two-hour writing sessions every Tuesday afternoon after school. Later, she became the youngest artist signed by Sony/ATV publishing house, but left the group at age 14."

Imagine that...her dad bought THREE percent of a fledgling company his 14 year old daughter was working with, after having been previously signed with Sony/ATV. The horror!

Her birthday is a week from today, and she will be 34 years old. And she's a billionaire. At 33! That is NOT the result of Daddy's three percent.

I don't know much of her music, but this comment diminishing an obviously talented, gorgeous, successful young woman who mobilized her millions of fans to vote is unnecessary, unkind, and untrue.

PS. Thanks for that link. I've learned a lot about Ms. Swift and her pics are lovely.

Edited to correct error.

[TheProle]

69. Good for her for making billions

And good on her for encouraging voting.

I don't know much of her music, but this comment diminishing an obviously talented, gorgeous, successful young woman who mobilized her millions of fans to vote is unnecessary, unkind, and untrue.

Nothing I posted was untrue. Unnecessary and unkind are judgment calls.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

86. Meh

[NorseSaxonCelt]

79. The success she has now is because of her hard work and talent.

She is brilliant songwriter and musician. She is highly respected by other musicians, she is extremely generous with her money. Gave her crew from the US Tour, huge bonuses.
Her fathers share in a record label she had to fight to leave, did not give a career that is still going strong. Taylor Swift did that herself.

[oldsoftie]

71. That purchase was after she was already signed. And that doesnt make people buy your records either.

There are PLENTY of famous people who have kids or siblings who fail at also becoming successful. Singing is probably the hardest business to make it outside of athletics.
As for her "carbon footprint", I guess no one should be entertained by anyone or anything outside their hometown. Its about as ridiculous as all the private jets flown to "climate change" conferences across the world.
Swift isnt just an entertainer, she's an INDUSTRY. She provides jobs for a LOT of people year round and 1000s during a tour. She's literally an economic impact on every city she visits; nearly a 6 BILLION impact nationally.
She also gave out $55 MILLION to her entire crew after the US leg of her tour was completed.

[TheProle]

72. All fair points

and I am not trying to force anyone to jettison their opinions; only contending that I have the right to hold my own.

When the climate apocalypse comes, I doubt anyone will be whistling her songs.

[Skittles]

102. greed

not impressed

[BobTheSubgenius]

114. That is pretty much my take, as well.

[getagrip_already]

19. Not named trump?

3...2...1...

The failing Times Magazine. It was once so great, now fake.


[SARCASM]

[Traildogbob]

47. Send a Copy

To trump. MTG can spank him with it.
I really like Taylor. I own 7 Taylor Guitars. In Bob Taylor’s quarterly Magazine about the company, he highlighted a Taylor Story when she was a teen, unknown, proudly playing an 814 CE. The Mag always highlights up and coming singer songwriters. Her obvious choice of quality acoustic guitars.
I loved her since Then. I named my next to last female lab Taylor. (After the guitar though).
She is a great hero to young girls.
I watched the USWNS team play China last night. And as a dad of a daughter, watching the very young girls in the audience in awe of the players was so great.
Taylor and the National Soccer team are exactly what young girls need right now with the GQP attacking all women.
With the MTG’s the Boebert’s, Lake, Stephonic, Fox bimbos, thank God for real hero’s for young women to look up too.
I also like Taylor because she is so much in Kelci’s head, the Chiefs are struggling. 😆
He is too in love to focus on the field.

[getagrip_already]

55. I always liked her music also...

I've listened to country music for decades. It can be cringy at times, but generally is easy listening.

But I always especially liked Taylor swift. The messages in her songs were very progressive, but subtle. Very empowering, anti violence against women.

Glad to see she got recognition. Much better than giving it to some hateful billionaire just because they caused some kind of terror somewhere.

[Traildogbob]

61. 100 percent

An amazing talent. Her storytelling is fantastic.
I have played for 60 years and for the life of me can NOT write a song.
Lyrics in a lot of music today are just trash.
Like Eminem, not my style, but the art of lyrics and story telling are unbelievable.
Taylor IS the ideal person of the year.
I am old enough to remember, Loui Loui by the Kingmen. To this day NOBODY knows a word of the verses. I was in a band then and we played it. Had to mumble verses with sounds not words.
So the newest version of them performing on a PBS fundraiser last week, still could not understand one word of a verse.
Keep the stories coming Taylor.
Keep touching the hearts of young girls. And boys, even older ones like Travis.

[ancianita]

104. Nope. TIME named him in 2016.

For reminding America that demagoguery feeds on despair and that truth is only as powerful as the trust in those who speak it, for empowering a hidden electorate by mainstreaming its furies and live-streaming its fears, and for framing tomorrow’s political culture by demolishing yesterday’s, Donald Trump is TIME’s 2016 Person of the Year.

[getagrip_already]

108. Thats why it was once great... /s....

But it should be giving tiny the award every year, for reasons

[ancianita]

110. What??

I never want to see or hear about tiny ever again in life!

[getagrip_already]

112. /s is a tag for sarcasm

I usually spell it out, but just used the tag this time.

Sorry for raising your bp.

[ancianita]

113. Ahh! Okay, cool. Oh, hey,

I wasn't in a huff at all, just a bit shocked -- thought the s/ was a mistype.

[FakeNoose]

20. Taylor Swift is an indefatigable entertainer, immensely talented and successful

... and she' seems (to me) to be carefully avoiding the many pitfalls of fame. Her message to young fans to register and vote was quite well done. She never endorsed any political candidate or party, she just gave an overall "young liberal" vibe and her fans ate it up.

Time has made a great choice!

[KS Toronado]

24. Wish we could get her to endorse some Democrats

or make a anti-Тяцмp or anti-Fascist song.

[FakeNoose]

87. I think that might happen down the road

[xmas74]

115. She endorsed Biden in 2020

And has spoken out against anti choice candidates in Tennessee.

[brush]

28. Agreed mostly. She has actually made known that she's a progressive...which is a good thing.

And she gets her fans to vote.

[MLAA]

83. That alone is why I'm good with her being the person of the year. She does a fantastic job inspiring her

fans to vote.

[padfun]

21. This is going to really piss the MAGAts off

They despise her since she brings so many new young voters to the polls.

[chouchou]

22. She's done some good things.

[lame54]

25. Enter Kanye

[progressoid]

30. *snort*

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[North Shore Chicago]

33. "Why you gotta be so mean"

Hope those lyrics stung him, even just a little.

[speak easy]

26. The Not-So-Secret of her success.

Interior lives matter

Maybe this is the real Taylor Swift effect: That she gives people, many of them women, particularly girls, who have been conditioned to accept dismissal, gaslighting, and mistreatment from a society that treats their emotions as inconsequential, permission to believe that their interior lives matter. That for your heart to break, whether it’s from being kicked off a tour or by the memory of a scarf still sitting in a drawer somewhere or because somebody else controls your life’s work, is a valid wound, and no, you’re not crazy for being upset about it, or for wanting your story to be told.

https://time.com/6342806/person-of-the-year-2023-taylor-swift/

[redqueen]

27. Thanks for that snippet

So happy for her

[speak easy]

31. As a man I find it difficult to listen to upset, distressed talk of a valid wound,

when I am the one responsible without get defensive. That is what I have learnt over the year, to listen, to share interior lives.

[redqueen]

40. We all wound each other, usually unintentionally

I wish emotional intelligence was taught in schools. It would change the world.

[FailureToCommunicate]

42. Very true. Women have it, men need to learn it. And most of "us" are still in grade school...

regarding emotional intelligence.

[redqueen]

49. Not all women have it, and many men do

It's more how we're raised than who we are that determines how well we learn to navigate our emotions

[MorbidButterflyTat]

67. Empowerment.

[highplainsdem]

32. Brava!

[Ocelot II]

35. I wouldn't recognize any of her songs; can't pick her out of a lineup, but

it sounds like she's a decent person who's done useful things with her fame, including encouraging young people to vote. So good for her.

[former9thward]

36. Time is just trying to sell some magazines that no one reads.

Swift has done nothing to influence world news or events. That is supposed to be the criteria. A desperate old media magazine.

[TeamProg]

43. However, she is likely more popular than Jesus Christ. I think fame and widefpread

coverage adds a lot of weight to the P O T Y cover.

[former9thward]

48. Yes, popular, and that is why she was selected.

They hope her face on their cover will sell magazines. Time used to be an institution in the media. They had subscribers all over and in schools it would be used for term paper assignments and other homework. Now almost no one reads it. Subscriptions down to a small percent of what they were. It is part of the old dying media always struggling to survive one more year.

[rubbersole]

57. She is responsible for young people registering to vote.

Thank her later when the history of democracy is written.

[former9thward]

58. You seem to take that on blind faith.

I don't. How many young people? And where? And far more important will they vote? All unknowns. When they vote, if they do, and her supposed registered voters make a difference, if they do, then make her Person in 2024.

[spooky3]

81. Registrations--just one data point

https://www.npr.org/2023/09/22/1201183160/taylor-swift-instagram-voter-registration

Why would someone on DU be so dismissive of an award given in recognition of the accomplishments of a talented young woman?

[former9thward]

89. Why would someone on DU accept unscientific data?

From your link: It's not clear exactly how many of the registrations were tied to Swift's Instagram.

35,000 registrations out of 272 million. About 1/100 of 1%. I know equally unscientific.

Time violated their own stated criteria for Person of the Year just so they could put Swift on the cover and try and save their dying magazine.

 

[spooky3]

90. You aren't a scientist or qualified pollster, but even lawyers accept

Proximity in time as some evidence of relationships, as I’m sure you know. Statisticians wouldn’t make the comparison you are making to draw the inference of some impact on registrations.

Please provide hard evidence that Time violated their own award criteria, which are based primarily on perceived impact of accomplishments. They cited some very impressive accomplishments in their story on this award, eg, record sales, success of tours, even economic impact on communities where concerts were held. They gave the award to Nixon and even to Hitler in the past.

[former9thward]

91. Yes, they gave it to Stalin and Hitler not to sell magazines but because of their effect on news that year.

According to Time, there is really only one criterion that determines the Person of the Year. They are “the person or persons who most affected the news and our lives, for good or ill, and embodied what was important about the year.”

https://www.distractify.com/p/time-person-of-the-year-criteria#:~:text=According%20to%20Time%2C%20there%20is%20really%20only%20one,and%20embodied%20what%20was%20important%20about%20the%20year.%E2%80%9D

You may think Swift was the person who "most affected the news and our lives" but I doubt few others do. It was given to sell magazines and save them for a short time.

[Upthevibe]

39. irisblue..........

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

She gives an enormous amount of her money to those who work for her and to many charities.

And.................SHE gets the young ones to vote! She may end up saving Democracy!!!

[TeamProg]

41. Not George Santos? I was lied to.

[Sympthsical]

44. It was originally him

But he turned it down after Beyonce texted him that he was better than that.

[dweller]

45. My daughters were so thrilled when I txtd them the news

this morning, they saw her in Foxborough MA this past May … sat in the rain for the whole concert … loved every minute





✌🏻

[MorbidButterflyTat]

85. How awesome!

Probably not many entertainers would have played in the rain for 3 and a half hours!

And look at her smile. She's a sweetheart.

[peggysue2]

46. Good for her!

[PortTack]

53. That is the best news! Thank you Taylor for showing the world money doesn't have to define who you are

[housecat]

59. What we need now are her political endorsements.

Her fame can serve a bigger purpose than to entertain millions. She has the power to motivate young people to vote to save our Democracy.

[speak easy]

68. It's coming, I'm sure it's coming.

Taylor spoke out against Trump in 2020. Not with a bullhorn. but she spoke out non the less. Her boyfriend, Travis Kelce has taken the knew during the National Anthem. I fully expect her to mobilize her Swifties this time around.

[Baitball Blogger]

60. Tee-hee. So Taylor Swift, allegedly, was responsible for activating the Swiftees in

the last election that over-threw conservative candidates. And now Time has raised her influencer value by awarding her the Person of the year.

That usually doesn't go in our favor. So, well done, young lady.

[UTUSN]

63. Who will show up first to snatch it out of her hands - Drumpf or Kanye?

[world wide wally]

70. You know the Orange Fuckface and his minion, Kanye are eating their hearts out over this.

Didn't OJ (The Orange Jackoff) used to carry around a fake copy of Time with him being declared "Person of the Year"?

[Cha]

74. Wow.. This Is Great News for People's Rights & Democracy!!

TY!

[Tomconroy]

76. Congrats to her and all the Swifties!

She's very talented and it has absolutely been her year.

[fierywoman]

77. Watch her on the Graham Norton show to get a sense of who she is : wonderful.

Empowered. Smart. No b.s. Gracious. Supportive. ...

[mwb970]

78. She deserves it.

Her music is simply AMAZING, and she is a wonderful person too. To me, she is the exact opposite of the impossibly vile trump in every way.

[byronius]

82. Passed a car today with her name painted on it.

Great selection — her GOTV effort is powerful and cool.

[FakeNoose]

88. When I was a teen in the 60's, my parents and grandparents didn't get the Beatles

They didn't get the Stones, the Temptations, or any of "our" music. But I didn't care, I loved it all.

Now we're the parents and grandparents, and we don't get Taylor Swift and other young stars. It's OK, we don't have to get them. Their attraction is for the teens and young adults of today. Let's be thankful that she isn't a MAGA or a QAnon.

[byronius]

99. Oh, I get her music. And it's fun.

But stepping up to give a political push to help humanity survive is precious. Powerful.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

109. Mine too..

I was heavy into the Beatles, Mowtown, and later on, early Classic Rock music.

[Gore1FL]

84. Every year I am amazed at how few people understand the Times Person of the Year award.

This thread has a lot of examples.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

92. This makes me smile

[TheKentuckian]

93. Despite her music not being my favorite cup of tea

nor approving of fraternizing with Chiefs (I kid at some level above zero and below one hundred), I'm cool with it.

I couldn't be more impressed at how she treats the workers on her tour.

Uses her influence for democracy.

Doing waaaaay better than most.

[rockfordfile]

94. Music is crap but

But she seems like a good person. Then again it's because of kids buying her music that allows that. Like a TV fundy asking you to send your money to them in exchange for a prayer.

[DemocraticPatriot]

95. "Love Story" is my favorite Taylor Swift song, and the first where

I identified her as the artist...

I am a rocker (is there any good new rock out there now?),
but I am somewhat literary. The Shakesphere hook caught me deep... I love that song

I admire her specifically because she seems to have written all of the songs that she has recorded
(as far as I know).


Succcessful singer-songwriters are not as common now as they were in the 1960s and 1970s.....


Thank God she is an anti-fascist!

[MerryBlooms]

96. She's an amazing artist. I love her, Shake It Off! 💕

[DemocraticPatriot]

97. Shake off 'Love Story' ? I think not...

Hahahhaaha..... just kidding around, I like that one too

[MerryBlooms]

98. I'm more a Baez, Harris, Simon, Raitt, Franklin, etc... playlist,

But, I respect and enjoy many other folks. I certainly won't drag on any artist I never bothered to listened to, what's up with that? Lol Have a great night. End of my day off comes to a close, so as my sister teases me, Get Back To The Herd! You'll have to watch an old Rawhide episode to get it. 😆

[edbermac]

100. I'm officially old.

I could name 50 Beatles songs off the top of my head. I can’t name one of hers.

[Skittles]

103. it's bubble-gummy

yup

[xmas74]

116. It is bubble gum

But I do like Anti Hero.
On a daily basis I wonder if things happening around me are circumstance or if I'm the problem. She admits that everyone has intrusive thoughts that aren't always easy to dismiss.
Really bubble gum but I catch myself singing along with the lyrics "It's me,hi, I'm the problem it's me".

[ancianita]

105. Congrats, Taylor! You're in the Person of the Year club of mostly men, Barack Obama and Joe Biden among them.

The good, the bad, and the dangerous others named TIME's Person of the Year:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Person_of_the_Year

Time magazine named Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy "Person of the Year" in 2022.
Past winners have also included Tesla (TSLA.O) CEO Elon Musk, climate activist Great Thunberg, former President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/taylor-swift-named-times-person-year-capping-her-record-breaking-2023-2023-12-06/

[Escurumbele]

107. republicans are going to go into a nervous breakdown...

Good for Time Magazine...

[WarGamer]

111. Her music IMHO is bland and vapid.

Having said that, I respect anyone who's built a business empire without being a really bad person.

So... good for her.