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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI just gotta say i'm so frustrated wit the texas SC sitting on this decision, with NO CARE for woman
I just wish woman (and MEN)across this country would flood texas and shut the fucking state down until this fucking court does something. WAY PAST TIME for this to happen in every state that supports This FN AG of texas.
Walleye
(44,797 posts)Maybe if one of them had a wife or daughter in that situation although Im not even sure that would help
LeftInTX
(34,280 posts)However, there is a difference between dead and not compatible with life.
The fetus, when born is not expected to survive.
It could die in utero.
But as of last week, it was not dead.
flashman13
(2,397 posts)LeftInTX
(34,280 posts)Devine and his wife continued a high-risk pregnancy for their seventh child even though the pregnancy was likely to cause the death of both the mother and the child, according to Devine. His wife survived the pregnancy but the child died an hour after birth.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_P._Devine_(judge)
AleksS
(1,718 posts)a womans life is completely worthless.
Freddie
(10,104 posts)Her very existence was used to prove a point.
Many years ago I had a coworker who was diagnosed with breast cancer early in a pregnancy. Being a devout Catholic she refused to consider abortion so she could be treated for the cancer. Her baby lived. She didnt. Pro-life assholes think what she did was Brave and Noble, to sacrifice her life for the fetus. Beyond sick.
lostnfound
(17,520 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(28,493 posts)It was not imposed upon them by outsiders. Personally, I would have terminated that pregnancy, but I've never been faced with that decision.
As I like to say: If you think abortion is wrong, don't have one. But don't try to make such decisions for anyone else.
LeftInTX
(34,280 posts)I don't agree with their decision at all and don't agree they should impose their will on others. However, assuming that if any of the Texas Supreme Court were in the same shoes and would get an abortion is not accurate.
CousinIT
(12,533 posts)And forcing a woman (even married with a wanted child) to carry a dead or dying or unviable fetus is also a way to punish her.
To MAGA men and the American Taliban, women are either madonnas or sluts. Mothers or whores. Never a human being deserving of human rights. Mostly they consider them whores and want them punished for it - that is based in their religion - that biblical fantasy where Eve tempted Adam. In that view, all women are evil sluts. In no capacity are women or girls considered humans deserving of reproductive healthcare. They're just property, like livestock; male service units; incubators, second-class humans -- at very best.
This is their attitude. This is how it can be explained. It's the ONLY way it can be explained. Patriarchal evangelism that dehumanizes female human beings as evil temptresses where being a mother is the only redeeming value they have.
bluestarone
(22,174 posts)If we don't organize something in every state, letting the SC know we won't allow them to destroy our laws and beliefs, then we will be in trouble. The election of 2024 has to be won, or else.
CousinIT
(12,533 posts)I'm not retired yet and don't have the time or money to do what I would like. When retired, I'll have more time but it will be too late by then and I'll have even less money. I'm probably not the only one in this situation. I feel like we're so f*cked.
redqueen
(115,186 posts)They know they can do whatever they want. They don't care about the consequences.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,507 posts)More eyes have been opened since 2000.
TSExile
(3,363 posts)The American Taliban: Texas.
Sickening.
MOMFUDSKI
(7,080 posts)invite came. Women have to buck these stupid laws and make a big show of it. Teach the young women how to fight these religious lunatics.
bluestarone
(22,174 posts)A decision has to be made from the SC on this? I thought i heard if she does get this abortion, then case will be dropped. not sure which way is best, but this AG needs to be STOPPED period!
Lonestarblue
(13,474 posts)They want to force her to go to another state for an abortion and she cannot wait much longer. Once she has the abortion, the case becomes moot but no precedent has been set for future use by other women. The point is still to put fear of prosecution into the minds of all physicians yo make them refuse an abortion even to save a womans life.
90-percent
(6,956 posts)Make it a crime to go to another state to get an abortion?
-90% jimmy
Lonestarblue
(13,474 posts)woman to another state for an abortion can be prosecuted. The practical application of such laws would be impossible because every car with a female in it would have to be stopped, and the police would not know whether a woman was pregnant.
Skittles
(171,698 posts)there is no fascist low repukes will not sink to
former9thward
(33,424 posts)It is not a crime for a person getting an abortion.
https://www.abortionfinder.org/abortion-guides-by-state/abortion-in-texas
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,953 posts)Javaman
(65,705 posts)and the texas supremes is so close there is no day light between the two.
Crooked you say? hell yes, I say.
forgot it, Jake, it's texas.
Ray Bruns
(6,352 posts)And force Kate Cox to carry the fetus to term.
wryter2000
(47,940 posts)One part of me wishes she were on a plane to CA now. The other half wants her to continue to fight.
Freddie
(10,104 posts)The case has no standing, and Paxton wins. Thats precisely what he wants. He doesnt give a flying f** about the fetus, he just doesnt want a precedent set.
Skittles
(171,698 posts)nope
wryter2000
(47,940 posts)Her attorney says they're going to keep the case open. I don't know how. But if she comes back, will they arrest her?
wryter2000
(47,940 posts)They can't just sit on it without causing future damage.
SunSeeker
(58,274 posts)Hekate
(100,133 posts)wryter2000
(47,940 posts)onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)a shit about the actual law. They are the ones breaking the laws.
Old Crank
(7,072 posts)Is a defacto ward of the state. All costs for prenatal care need to be born by the state. From pregnancy to birth.
malaise
(296,076 posts)Rec
KT2000
(22,148 posts)to Washington where she will get compassionate care -immediately.
MuseRider
(35,176 posts)we will take good care of her here. Wichita is but a few hours drive, 5 1/2 hours.
Warpy
(114,614 posts)either to a stillborn fetus or to a baby that lives in agony for only a few hours.
While it's nice that she sued and exposed the extreme sadism of the GOP, it's time for her to come to NM for some health care.
Vinca
(53,986 posts)ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)Shut things down? By what means?
When you call for action, you need a clear plan that has a reasonable chance of working. You can't just go in there all fired up with no idea of what to do. That's a recipe for mob violence.
So spell out what these people need to do when they get to Texas that will actually, you know, work?
bluestarone
(22,174 posts)Legally!
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,507 posts)Some of us are hurting, in innumerable ways.
Some of us need to let off some steam, as impractical as it may seem to others, before the injustice and the cruelty eats us alive.
spanone
(141,602 posts)American Taliban
Emile
(42,281 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(4,507 posts)This BS is triggering, like Beer Bong Kavanaugh and his phony crocodile tears not only getting away with sexual assault but being rewarded with a lifetime appointment on the SC. It's been killing me, how this shit is happening.
There are phony services, used to be in the yellow pages, probably all over the internet, that claim to help pregnant women, usually desperate women, that are really anti-women religious nutbags, who can't mind their own business.
It's not any woman's responsibility to bring her personal health situation up for "precedent." Government does NOT belong in women's healthcare! The precedent is basic human rights without government interference.
And they have made it clear that precedent means nothing to them since they've stolen the majority, by way of a moronic criminal traitor to the US.
What world is this?!
Hekate
(100,133 posts)pansypoo53219
(23,034 posts)Ilsa
(64,362 posts)She would be forced to carry to term. Imglad she's out of there. I hope they permanently move, get their assets out of the state.