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speak easy

(12,595 posts)
Sun Dec 17, 2023, 02:54 PM Dec 2023

Why is this story buried on Page 10 of the Post?

Tom Nichols
@RadioFreeTom
Page A10 of the Post. We’re not even shocked anymore.



Why isn't on the front page along with a denunciation of his Nazi stich about immigrants from Africa, Asia and South America 'poisoning the blood of our country'. Sleepwalking into Fascism.
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Why is this story buried on Page 10 of the Post? (Original Post) speak easy Dec 2023 OP
... speak easy Dec 2023 #1
Because that rag is run by the plutocracy - still some good stringers on board erronis Dec 2023 #2
Which Page 1 story should have been replaced with this? brooklynite Dec 2023 #4
I cancelled a year ago. vanlassie Dec 2023 #9
I wouldn't think of tainting your inbox with a right wing rag..... brooklynite Dec 2023 #12
The one about James Biden? dpibel Dec 2023 #13
James Biden is newsworthy, because he has been subpoenaed too. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2023 #18
You don't say!!! dpibel Dec 2023 #22
I find the Guardian to be far more conservative than the Post. Martin68 Dec 2023 #23
Text versions are on the internet. usonian Dec 2023 #3
I assume it's Washington Post. sinkingfeeling Dec 2023 #5
Yes. speak easy Dec 2023 #6
The fascist media wants it. onecaliberal Dec 2023 #7
WaPo has been trending to the right for a couple of years now. Lonestarblue Dec 2023 #8
I would strongly disagree that the Post fails to attribute Congressional dysfunction to Republicans. Martin68 Dec 2023 #24
Where I think the Post fails is often in its headlines. Lonestarblue Dec 2023 #25
Only the uninformed fail to realize that Republicans are responsible for dysfunction in Congress and readers of the Post Martin68 Dec 2023 #27
What time did Trump's rally start? mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2023 #10
Excellent points, thanks! ShazzieB Dec 2023 #14
if he dosent like amerika , leave . that is what the rs would tell us. AllaN01Bear Dec 2023 #11
They have to pretend he's not a threat in order to boost campaign ad spending. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2023 #15
At least it appeared in WaPo maspaha Dec 2023 #16
Here is today's front page SocialDemocrat61 Dec 2023 #17
The James Biden story is timely, because mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2023 #19
Stanley? SocialDemocrat61 Dec 2023 #20
IMHO not as timely/important as Trump quoting Putin and channeling Hitler. emulatorloo Dec 2023 #21
When I lived in South America buried in Scetion D over 100 pages deep was a headline GreenWave Dec 2023 #26

erronis

(22,526 posts)
2. Because that rag is run by the plutocracy - still some good stringers on board
Sun Dec 17, 2023, 03:37 PM
Dec 2023

but the editorial staff is looking at the money flow - mainly income from owners.

Obviously the circulation department and reader opinions don't matter any more since their money contributions are way down. Don't know about online but I've canceled my subscription since The Guardian is a much better way to contribute to good news.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
4. Which Page 1 story should have been replaced with this?
Sun Dec 17, 2023, 03:40 PM
Dec 2023

You know what they are, right?

dpibel

(3,754 posts)
13. The one about James Biden?
Sun Dec 17, 2023, 05:04 PM
Dec 2023

A story about a transaction from before the turn of the century and an FBI investigation in 2007.

I realize it's a tough balancing act...

mahatmakanejeeves

(68,075 posts)
18. James Biden is newsworthy, because he has been subpoenaed too.
Sun Dec 17, 2023, 05:58 PM
Dec 2023
https://apnews.com/article/hunter-joe-biden-impeachment-congress-subpoena-37fe9652539c2c501d8b8bd8c3cc8901

The Sunday Post front page has long analytical articles. Especially prized are long analytical articles about the inner workings of Washington DC.

dpibel

(3,754 posts)
22. You don't say!!!
Sun Dec 17, 2023, 06:59 PM
Dec 2023

The question I was answering was "Which front page story would this replace?"

It was not, "Why is James Biden newsworthy?"

But I do thank you for filling me in on the fact that Joe Biden's brother, James, has been the subject of much attention from the Comer/Jordan party. Else I would never have known.

usonian

(23,365 posts)
3. Text versions are on the internet.
Sun Dec 17, 2023, 03:37 PM
Dec 2023
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-quotes-putin-condemning-american-democracy-praises-autocrat-orban/ar-AA1lBJvy
WAPO, via MSN


https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/16/politics/new-hampshire-republican-primary-trump-immigration/index.html
CNN

In a statement released Saturday night, Biden campaign spokesperson Ammar Moussa said Trump “parroted Adolf Hitler” in his New Hampshire remarks.

“Tonight Donald Trump channeled his role models as he parroted Adolf Hitler, praised Kim Jong Un, and quoted Vladimir Putin while running for president on a promise to rule as a dictator and threaten American democracy,” Moussa said. “He is betting he can win this election by scaring and dividing this country. He’s wrong. In 2020, Americans chose President Biden’s vision of hope and unity over Trump’s vision of fear and division — and they’ll do the same next November.”

Lonestarblue

(13,199 posts)
8. WaPo has been trending to the right for a couple of years now.
Sun Dec 17, 2023, 04:10 PM
Dec 2023

Think all their new opinion writers are right-wing hacks. My subscription us paid through next August, at which point I’ll be cancelling. The Post consistently has headlines and articles about Congress being dysfunctional but refuses to mention that it is Republicans who are making it dysfunctional. They still have some excellent reporters Ike Carol Leonig and Philip Rucker, but even they seem to gave fewer articles lately. The Graham family that published the Pentagon Papers would be dismayed at what the Post has become under billionaire Bezos, who seems to care more about profits and paying no taxes that informative journalism that supports democracy.

Martin68

(26,964 posts)
24. I would strongly disagree that the Post fails to attribute Congressional dysfunction to Republicans.
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 12:39 PM
Dec 2023

I still find the Post to be the best available source of factual information. They also publish amazing in-depth stories on topics such as national problems with assisted living facilities, historical injustice against minorities, gun violence, and many other substantive topics.

Lonestarblue

(13,199 posts)
25. Where I think the Post fails is often in its headlines.
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 12:50 PM
Dec 2023

Last week a prominent headline was “Worst. Congress. Ever.” Congress is the worst ever because Republicans make it so. But the headline quickly communicates to those who either just skim articles or skim headlines that all of Congress is bad, Democrats and Republicans. Such headlines are one reason so many people seem to think there’s little difference between the two parties.

Other headlines have related to dysfunction in the House without mentioning Republican dysfunction in the headline. But, yes, I agree with you that the Post does have some excellent reporters and articles. But it’s also telling that most of the opinion writers they’ve hired in the past year have all been right-wing writers to add to their fairly large collection of Republican apologists like George Will, Hugh Hewitt, Marc Theissen, Gary Abernathy, and Henry Olson.

Martin68

(26,964 posts)
27. Only the uninformed fail to realize that Republicans are responsible for dysfunction in Congress and readers of the Post
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 03:10 PM
Dec 2023

are very well informed. Readers of the Post already understand why "Worst. Congress. Ever." is a fact. We don’t need hand-holding or elementary explanations about topics the paper has already drilled into us.

mahatmakanejeeves

(68,075 posts)
10. What time did Trump's rally start?
Sun Dec 17, 2023, 04:20 PM
Dec 2023

Look that up for me, would you? Thanks.

Unless something Earth-shattering happens, the Post’s Sunday stories tend to be long and reflective. I don’t know what press time is on Saturday night, but a story needs to be something big for a “stop the presses!” moment.

Had Trump used the rally to announce that he was withdrawing from the race, that would have been front page news. Anything less than that, it’s not really that newsworthy, is it?

Spreading the story across the front page would have caused outrage at DU.

Putting the story on an odd-numbered page would have caused outrage at DU.

Putting the story on an even-numbered page would me have caused outrage at DU.

Putting the the story on the edge of a page would caused outrage at DU.

There are some things I can count on.

Here’s this morning’s front page:



Source: https://www.freedomforum.org/todaysfrontpages/#

ShazzieB

(22,164 posts)
14. Excellent points, thanks!
Sun Dec 17, 2023, 05:15 PM
Dec 2023

I agree that as disturbing as 45's Nazi rantings are, the latest rally is not that newsworthy.

I'd be pleased to see more attention being drawn to his descent into fascism in the media, but this example doesn't bother me, for all the reasons you mentioned.

maspaha

(703 posts)
16. At least it appeared in WaPo
Sun Dec 17, 2023, 05:35 PM
Dec 2023

My expectations of the “newspapers of record” have really slipped, sorry.

SocialDemocrat61

(6,668 posts)
17. Here is today's front page
Sun Dec 17, 2023, 05:38 PM
Dec 2023


Interesting they chose a “the Bidens might be corrupt” story from many years in the past instead of the Trump story from this week.

Damn liberal media.

emulatorloo

(46,135 posts)
21. IMHO not as timely/important as Trump quoting Putin and channeling Hitler.
Sun Dec 17, 2023, 06:36 PM
Dec 2023

FWIW I read the full story, deals with allegations about stuff that happened in 2007, and concluded there was nothing to Republican claims.

GreenWave

(12,217 posts)
26. When I lived in South America buried in Scetion D over 100 pages deep was a headline
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 12:59 PM
Dec 2023

Found several decades ago in "El Universal" 99% percent of all the products we consume are of bad quality.

These findings were from quality control inspectors. If everything people buy is bad, you cannot trust business to fix it, nor the government . It would take coordinated consumer boycotts back then.

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