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bluestarone

(22,174 posts) Fri Dec 29, 2023, 11:16 AM Dec 2023

Immunity question, this AM.

If the appeals court rules against TFG on the immunity issue, then the SC refuses to hear TFG's appeal, could this be revisited later? I feel the SC needs to rule 100% against TFG. Period!

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Immunity question, this AM. (Original Post) bluestarone Dec 2023 OP

THIS Supreme Court? 100% against TFG? Glorfindel Dec 2023 #1

This SCOTUS has ruled against Trump in every case he was a named party. Nt Fiendish Thingy Dec 2023 #2

Agree here. But my question is bluestarone Dec 2023 #3

I think it would have to be an entirely new case for SCOTUS to revisit the issue Fiendish Thingy Dec 2023 #6

Happily you are incorrect. This Supreme Court has ruled against Trump multiple times. emulatorloo Dec 2023 #4

If SC turns down Trump apeal on immunity could it revisit this later? people Dec 2023 #5

It would have to be a new, separate case for a lower court to review Fiendish Thingy Dec 2023 #7

Glorfindel

(10,175 posts)

1. THIS Supreme Court? 100% against TFG?

Reply to bluestarone (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2023, 11:40 AM

Dec 2023

Very, very unlikely. Even to get a 5 to 4 decision, two of the six rabid rePukes would have to vote against him. I can't think of any two who would do that under any circumstances.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,219 posts)

2. This SCOTUS has ruled against Trump in every case he was a named party. Nt

Reply to Glorfindel (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 29, 2023, 11:47 AM

Dec 2023

bluestarone

(22,174 posts)

3. Agree here. But my question is

Reply to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 29, 2023, 12:23 PM

Dec 2023

If the appeals court rules AGAINST TFG, and IF the SC does NOT hear tfg's appeal could the SC later on revisit and hear the appeal? I would like this settled NOW permanetly. (we all know there is no immunity here)

Fiendish Thingy

(23,219 posts)

6. I think it would have to be an entirely new case for SCOTUS to revisit the issue

Reply to bluestarone (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 29, 2023, 01:11 PM

Dec 2023

If SCOTUS denies cert, it could be for a variety of reasons, or no reason. AFAIK, they wouldn’t resuscitate the exact same case and then grant cert, it would have to be a new case, but could be about the same issue.

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)

4. Happily you are incorrect. This Supreme Court has ruled against Trump multiple times.

Reply to Glorfindel (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 29, 2023, 12:38 PM

Dec 2023

people

(844 posts)

5. If SC turns down Trump apeal on immunity could it revisit this later?

Reply to bluestarone (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2023, 12:50 PM

Dec 2023

Assuming the DC Circuit rules against Trump on the immunity issue, and the U.S. Supreme Court turns down an appeal by Trump of this decision, that would be the end of it, unless another U.S. Court of Appeal hears the immunity claim and decides opposite of the DC Circuit and rules that a president is immune from prosecution for acts done when s/he is in office. Then there would be a conflict in the circuits and I believe the Supreme Court would step in.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,219 posts)

7. It would have to be a new, separate case for a lower court to review

Reply to people (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 29, 2023, 01:15 PM

Dec 2023

And even then, despite the fact that we are in a post-stare decicis era thanks to Dobbs, it’s likely the lower court would have to say “the issue of immunity has already been ruled on”.

If Trump loses at SCOTUS, he can’t go judge shopping to find a lower court to rule in his favor.

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