General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRepublicans are fine with this picture but lose their minds seeing Taylor Swift cheering for Kansas City. Go figure.
Last edited Mon Jan 29, 2024, 11:57 AM - Edit history (1)
FIFA World Cup finals, 2022, Qatar.
Link to tweet
https://vickyward.substack.com/p/all-roads-lead-to-jared-kushner
Fiendish Thingy
(15,730 posts)And its only going to get better over the next two weeks!
PortTack
(32,846 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,407 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(16,974 posts)A RED Super Bowl for sure.
Red Lipstick will be popular too.
Volaris
(10,285 posts)dchill
(38,675 posts)Solomon
(12,327 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(16,974 posts)I have been a Pro Football fan since 1966 and the NFL season is my favorite time of the year.
Taylor Swift dating and happy for Travis Kelce makes even the most manly of MAGA men tremble is poetry in motion. She is sticking it to the men in subtle ways that threaten their fragile truck loving, beer guzzling egos.
Good on ya Taylor.
DemocratInPa
(392 posts)That is a slap to Natives..
BannonsLiver
(16,556 posts)Last edited Mon Jan 29, 2024, 04:57 PM - Edit history (1)
Also its probably the most right wing conservative fan base in pro sports as well. MAGAT central.
tazkcmo
(7,310 posts)Through and through.
BannonsLiver
(16,556 posts)A couple of things:
- KC is not all of Missouri and Kansas. I can assure you there are vast swaths of both states that are not blue through and through.
- Their war chant is racist AF and would be considered racist AF by most people here in any other context.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)may I ask you: Upon this NDN reservation upon which I have lived and worked for 6 years, I know many native KC football fans, and we are very far from that Mo. Why or how do you supposes that is?
One thing I can tell you: they have far more serious problems than team names or chants, trust me on that. They enjoy many forms of entertainment same as anybody else.
The other thing: they are more than capable of preserving defending their heritage. They live it everyday.
They absolutely hate it when non-natives speak for them. They actually consider that a form of cultural appropriation
Some of my best friends are native.
I know a few as well. Its kind of unavoidable when you grow up and live in a state with the countrys largest native population. I have heard a vast array of opinions on this issue.
Anyway, worry about the Packers rather than defending racism. You are way out of your depth here. Thanks.
orangecrush
(19,707 posts)GusBob
(7,286 posts)Colleagues, coworkers, neighbors, teachers, cops, lawyers, firefighters, clerks, employees bosses, students business owners, wildlife officers etc
Oh and patients, 2,000 encounters or more per year, 8 years with the IHS now
I reckon I know a few Natives, more than a few thousands
Out of my depths huh? As a health care specialist I know for a fact: there are very few people on the face of this Earth that can do what I do for so long. It is extremely challenging. I get recruited every week from Alaska to Michigan and points everywhere for my position. The positions have been open for years too. The IHS struggles with recruiting and retention, it takes dedicated providers who are not interested in getting wealthy.
You are welcome to give it a try if you are so deep.
But like I said the challenges are greater than football names and chants,fair warning
tazkcmo
(7,310 posts)I was responding to your claim that the Chiefs fan base us the most RW fan base in all pro sports. Utter BS and you should wash your hands after pulling that out of your ass.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,883 posts)best places in the country for the LBGT COMMUNITY to live.
SoFlaBro
(2,063 posts)Traildogbob
(8,958 posts)The tomahawk chanting. I hate that.
But the players are not responsible. Tons of talent, not a fan but not a hater. Respect the skills of those athletes.
Just wanna see more Taylor pissing off MAGAs.
I hope Travis lets her walk out as a honorary captain with him for the coin flip. Then they have to see a Black man halftime show.
Let the games begin.
lastlib
(23,441 posts)When Lamar Hunt was looking to move the team out of Dallas, he was persuaded by the great mayor of Kansas City, H. Roe Bartle, to bring them to KC. Bartle, who was a Boy Scout executive before becoming mayor, had been given the nickname "Chief" during his Scouting days. Hunt was so impressed with Bartle that he named the team "Chiefs" in Bartle's honor. The name "Chief" is no more pejorative to native Americans than the title "police chief" or "fire chief" or "chief executive." The Scouting program that Bartle founded was rooted in the customs and traditions of the Arapahoe tribe, and to this day, has the full approval and blessing of the Arapahoe tribal leadership. The program honors the ways of the native Americans in ways that are HIGHLY respectful of them, and its relationship with the Arapahoe tribe is strong and cordial and mutually respectful. I won't bother you with the details, but as a 50-year member of that program, I can attest that the program Bartle founded goes to very great lengths to maintain that mutually respectful relationship. I can also tell you that the team leadership from Clark Hunt on down is going to great lengths to discourage all the crap that fans have brought on relative to Native Americans.
So, no, the team name is NOT a slap at our native brothers. Please stop spreading that crap.
SidneyR
(85 posts)The point is that now, in the present time, the name and the gestures at the games are racist and offensive to native people.
lastlib
(23,441 posts)Those who are offended by it don't know the facts of its origin. I am inclined to agree that the chant is offensive, and the team strongly discourages its use now.
I have a beaded necklace made by my great-great-grandmother, a Cherokee woman, for her wedding in 1862 that has multiple "swastikas" on it. So it does have innocent origins. But I am fully aware that it has more sinister implications to many, so I can't display it unless I can explain that it predates Nazis by more than 60 years.
see post 27
Permanut
(5,742 posts)I've been a Chiefs fan since the 60's and the days of Super Bowl IV and Len Dawson. Didn't know the origin of the name.
Response to lastlib (Reply #20)
BannonsLiver This message was self-deleted by its author.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)I live and work on an NDN Rez very far from KC. And believe it or not there are many KC fans here. The security staff was all high fiving each other this am over the win if thats what you mean by slapping
Believe it or not, they have many more serious problems than cultural appropriation.
ETA , kinda ironic in a way: there are many Cowboy fans too
IronLionZion
(45,707 posts)It was fun seeing Trump take credit for this diplomatic crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar_diplomatic_crisis
The country with the largest US military base in the middle east has some sketchy relations with terrorist groups.
democrank
(11,117 posts)USA! USA! USA!
Wonder Why
(3,413 posts)MontanaMama
(23,372 posts)on the planet. They wont rest until everyone is a sad, angry and miserable as they are.
rubbersole
(6,800 posts)..over Taylor Swift is beyond hilarious. If they put a dollar in a jar every time her name gets mentioned on faux news or other rw sites in the next couple of weeks they might be able to pay off their monster trucks. This incredibly talented, beautiful, enlightened and independent role model is not only living rent free in their pea-sized brains, she has built a garage apartment for voter registration volunteers under their red hats. 🤯
speak easy
(9,366 posts)Taylor gets mad and even.
But not for me, not for me, all I think about is karma
And then the world moves on, but one thing's for sure
Maybe I got mine, but you'll all get yours
rubbersole
(6,800 posts)I mean Ouch, Ma'am.
AverageOldGuy
(1,578 posts)You may not know that Travis Kelci has been a spokesman for Pfizer, urging people to get their COVID vaccine, which as u can imagine is bringing out the rightwing mouthbreathers and knuckle draggers.
My daughter found a loony claim this morning that the KC-Balt game was rigged so Taylor Swift can come infield at Super Bowl half time and campaign for Biden.
sop
(10,366 posts)rubbersole
(6,800 posts)That's even more disturbing. Qatar wouldn't let women be there.
KS Toronado
(17,560 posts)Same people different day.
hatrack
(59,614 posts)2naSalit
(87,112 posts)Billboards, handbills, popups on websites relative to their crimes.
Efilroft Sul
(3,591 posts)The San Francisco 49ers, when it was helmed by QB Colin Kaepernick years ago, was the team that made the NFL supposedly so "unwatchable" for them because of Kap and other players taking a knee for Black Lives Matter. Of course, the MAGAbillies lied about not watching football again because they've constantly complained this season about
the Kansas City Chiefs and one of their players dating Taylor Swift, who many on the far right once considered their "Aryan goddess" (their words, not mine). But she "betrayed" them by being a liberal as if these white supremacists had a chance in hell with her.
Shake it off, haters.
OverBurn
(978 posts)ancianita
(36,271 posts)Link from the Federalist in the above article
"Taylor Swifts Popularity Is A Sign Of Societal Decline"
https://thefederalist.com/2023/09/05/taylor-swifts-popularity-is-a-sign-of-societal-decline/
They're mad because she attacks Trump.
Taylor Swift calls out Trump over late-night Minnesota tweet in 2020:
Link to tweet
More from 2018. She's been slamming Trump for years.
Link to tweet
I luv her, and hope she watches her back.
speak easy
(9,366 posts)She has had nuts stalking her for years.
ancianita
(36,271 posts)I hope not. Some day I hope she writes a book that includes a chapter about that world.
wolfie001
(2,340 posts)Never mind all the others present.
Kick in to the DU tip jar?
This week we're running a special pop-up mini fund drive. From Monday through Friday we're going ad-free for all registered members, and we're asking you to kick in to the DU tip jar to support the site and keep us financially healthy.
As a bonus, making a contribution will allow you to leave kudos for another DU member, and at the end of the week we'll recognize the DUers who you think make this community great.