ok. all this tay tay insanity is forcing my hand.

[mopinko]

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so, i did listen to a bit of her music, and i didnt hate it. it didnt cost me anything.
but at this point i think i’m gonna have to watch the movie. imma watch it on the big tv, have a date night w myself. i wasnt gonna spend the $20, but now i have to check out what all the fuss is about.

i’m so glad she’s on our side.

eta- thanks so much all for a delightful thread. keep kickin.

[ms liberty]

1. Lol I'm in the exact same place! Was just checking where I can watch it

Literally, just ten seconds before your post!

[rainin]

2. Watch her documentary

I watched her Eras tour movie but enjoyed her documentary more.

[mopinko]

3. i'll look for it.

tay tay night at mo’s. anyone wanna come?

[Skittles]

5. I tried watching it

ugh, not for me

[mopinko]

7. i expect to enjoy it.

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if not, maybe i’ll do a couple shots. these days i feel like i need to know some of the songs just to get the jokes. colbert last night did a bit that i knew was all her lyrics, and funny in it’s own right, but….
i’m trying to keep up here before i end up yelling at clouds.

[MontanaMama]

26. I watched it on Netflix.

I had no expectations and I really enjoyed it.

[ShazzieB]

40. What's the title?

[mtngirl47]

42. "Miss Americana" available on Netflix

I watched it last night---She's smart and driven! I am now a Swiftie at the age of 65!

[ShazzieB]

49. Thanks!

Will definitely check it out!

[highplainsdem]

4. To help you understand what all the fuss is about, you might want to check out articles like

this one

https://www.billboard.com/lists/best-taylor-swift-songs/

which is from March of last year but covers 100 of her best songs with some info (and lyrics) with each.

An early Eras tour setlist and an article late last year on surprise songs:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/music/2023/03/18/taylor-swift-set-list-eras-tour/11499422002/

https://people.com/taylor-swift-eras-tour-surprise-songs-7509877

The setlist for the Eras tour movie:

https://www.thewrap.com/taylor-swift-eras-tour-movie-setlist-all-the-songs-list/

[ificandream]

6. There are full concerts on YouTube.

Here's one from the 1989 Tour (I think that was the one before last year's tour).

&t=4813s&pp=ygUbdGF5bG9yIHN3aWZ0IGxpdmUgZXJhcyB0b3Vy

Here's one from the Eras tour.

[mopinko]

8. COOL! ty.

now i have to figure out how else to drop her a little change. lol. maybe i need a tshirt.

[ancianita]

10. Wait, what?? Swift was BORN in 1989. Maybe check out the poster and delete what looks like bogus net shenanigans.

[muriel_volestrangler]

11. Or ... she made an album called "1989", after the year she was born in

Maybe not leap to conclusions about posters?

[ancianita]

13. Fair point I hadn't thought about. Thanks.

[Donkees]

14. It's called the 1989 tour for a reason.

[ancianita]

15. I see that now. Thanks.

[NorseSaxonCelt]

64. The album has some 80s rifts...

Nods to Springsteen and Depeche Mode.

[Sky Jewels]

52. Oops, nevermind. ... Others explained.

[ancianita]

19. Gotta say thanks for the 1989 tour! Really diggin' the different artists she sings with on that tour, like Selena Gomez

The Weekend, Mick Jagger, Alison Krauss, Wiz Khalifa ... wow, it's great!

[NoMoreRepugs]

9. Not a big music fan or listener of any genres, BUT I respect someone who can make so many people happy w their art.

[ancianita]

12. To get an idea of her music history, the ERAS Tour movie is rentable on YouTube.

One of the ERAS trailers

Her full one hour documentary from four years ago is on Netflix and free on YouTube. Here's a clip:

[Ron Green]

16. I'm disappointed in the rise of celebrity culture and the fall of popular music,

but she seems like a good person. Perhaps she’ll use her fame in a truly transformative way.

[niyad]

20. Urging people to register to vote? Helping food banks in every city where

she performs? Millions to charities? Shining a spotlight in the magats? What else does she need to do to meet your "transformative" standard?

[rubbersole]

25. History could show the end of the magat threat machine...

...started when these racist morons went after Taylor Swift and the NFL. She's insanely popular for good reasons. Kelse is the epitome of the macho gentleman for sports fans. Keep flying down that hate fueled rabbit hole magats. You're sure to gain supporters with every new conspiracy theory.

[MontanaMama]

28. She paid the truck drivers who drove her Eras tour sets

from venue to venue 55 million dollars.

[questionseverything]

31. 55 million was the total bonuses from that tour

Each truck driver got $100,000. For a bonus

I bet she has people waiting in line to work her gig!

[MontanaMama]

37. $100K could be transformative for those folks.

She’s incredibly generous.

[Voltaire2]

30. You mean like since Elvis?

When exactly did popular music 'fall'?

What decade do you think saw the rise of 'celebrity culture'?

"In the future, everyone will be world-famous for 15 minutes" - misattributed to Andy Warhol, circa 1968.

[ecstatic]

17. To show how out of the loop I am...

Which movie?

I'm going to check out some of her material too at some point. Not really into pop or country music.

I don't understand why the media is forcing all the right wing conspiracy theories on us.

[mopinko]

22. eras tour. the 1 that caused earthquakes.

no kidding. seismographs picked up a couple of the concerts. and the fed reported on it as a bump in the gdp.
i’m usually pretty good at filtering out this pop nonsense. but i dont know how u managed. she’s bloody everywhere.

[limbicnuminousity]

48. You said no kidding...

You really mean no kidding? There's something endearing about this seismographic bump in the gdp.

[mopinko]

56. well, no kidding that it happened. kidding about it, oh hell yes.

i’m a huge believer in the power of the power of jokes in the face of fascism.

[littlemissmartypants]

67. The noise/physical activity that her audience made actually caused an "earthquake" in Seattle...

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/taylor-swift-seattle-earthquake-level_n_64c7d388e4b044bf98f68e16

https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/07/28/did-taylor-swift-fans-cause-seattle-earthquake/

[MontanaMama]

29. Her documentary, Miss Americana is on Netflix.

My husband and I watched the Eras tour movie. It rents for $20. I kinda knew what we would be watching but he did not. At the end of it, he said he was impressed. She’s incredibly entertaining and charismatic. It’s really fun to watch.

[Wiscodoug]

18. Not my cup

As much as I respect her for being vocal about the dangers TFG represents, music kind of died for me when Zep split and Lennon was murdered. As a musician, I find most pop music poison to my ears. My parents felt the same way about my music. I am happy for her and all of her fans yet art and beauty are indeed in the eye of the beholder. Her music is just not for me. I am cool with that.

[mopinko]

21. generally not mine, but i do love an angry woman rant.

and like they said about dylan- it’s poetry, too.

i’m also a rank amateur singer, and not my cup there, either.
irish, showtunes, some country rock. stuff i grew up on, like u. i got a feeling 1 of them might just stick in my head, tho. i mean, i sorta feel like there’s a whole community out there full of ppl i’d like who arent tay tay. all i gotta do is learn a song.

[limbicnuminousity]

53. The Dylan reference and the lyrics being quoted

inspired me to go back and reread a lot of TS Eliot. Much of what you get out of poetry is influenced by what you bring to it. Whatever else may be said about Miss Swift, I think it's fair to say she's pretty damned genuine and authentic.

[Captain Zero]

50. For pop music none of it sounds catchy to me,

I don't have to worry about any of it becoming an ear-bug.

HOWEVER if she puts a burr up Republican asses, then I am all for it.
And she does seem to be doing that.

I will now return to my Richard Thompson, Joni Mitchell, and Mark Knopfler channels.

[mopinko]

60. yeah, she's not going to replace steve and jt earle on my playlist.

there’s a couple lines that caught my ear, tho.

[wolfie001]

23. CHECK THIS OUT FOR A QUICK LOOK!!! 5 MINUTES!!!

Taylor Swift - All Too Well (Grammy Awards 2014) You Tube! This is the one that did it for me!

[mopinko]

33. boom. dang.

what pipes! what perfect delivery.
and dang if that aint pretty much where i am at the moment. ‘could have been a masterpiece, but u tore it all up.’ yeah, that’s gonna stick in my head.

[MontanaMama]

38. Harvard offers a course in her songwriting

Swifts’s lyrics are quite poetic.

https://english.fas.harvard.edu/english-183ts-taylor-swift-and-her-world

[wolfie001]

39. I was not really a fan at all.....

.....when I saw this about 7 years ago or so. I was always into the Brit imports from the '60s,'70s and '80s ('90s Cranberries). By the end of this song, I damn fell in love!!!

[Captain Zero]

54. Mary Chapin Carpenter sound on this to me

Sorry. Just how old I am.
But if she irritates Republicans, all the better.

[hunter]

58. Wow. That song takes me back to a rough time in my life.

After plaid shirt days and nights when you made me your own
Now you mail back my things and I walk home alone

Mine mailed me back my stuff, no note, nothing.

Don't know if she kept my scarf.

We crossed paths years later at a technical conference. The best we could manage was pretending we didn't know one another. Don't know if anyone noticed me struggling to suppress a panic attack.

My grandma held the false belief that whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Mostly I walked away with scars and another big rock in the bag of PTSD and craziness I'm shackled to.

On the other hand anger can be a strong motivation. If my life was always a fairy tale happily ever after, would I lose that motivation?

[mopinko]

59. w/o frustration, i'd def have little to write about.

like hemingway said- writing is easy. you just sit at a typewriter and bleed.

[Beakybird]

24. I loved the first half. The music's really good. It's too long though.

I wished I could could leave and watch the rest later. I was born in 1962.

[rubbersole]

27. Ha! 1962!

Still a 🐶 puppy...

[Voltaire2]

32. I just like to read the apparently obligatory disclaimers.

"not a fan"
"don't know who she is"
"don't like her music"

lol
lol
lol

[mopinko]

36. ppl talking about working an endorsement. all they have to do is

call a press conference, line up the 1st and 2nd families, and whoever else wants to come, and declare themselves swifties. issue a proclamation. hell, give her a medal.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

34. She appeared on the NPR Tiny Desk music show.

Here it is. This is from about 4 years ago, just after Jan 6. Listen to the first thing she says

?si=RaARUekzqGls59mP

[MontanaMama]

44. This Tiny Desk concert was the first time I heard her sing The Man.

She cleverly writes about the double standard that she and all women are judged by and yet somehow is joyful in doing so.

[Evolve Dammit]

35. Like she says: "Stop the Hate."

[lonely bird]

41. Hmmm.

Elvis was going to destroy society.

The Beatles were going to destroy society.

Punk was going to destroy society.

Disco was going to destroy society.

Grunge etc etc

Stravinsky’s Rite of Spring caused riots.

Every cultural change especially music is going to destroy society.

Society is still here.

[mopinko]

62. you forgot jazz.

[lonely bird]

65. Ah, yes

Thanks for pointing out my omission.👍

I knew I forgot something. Getting old sucks.

[ratchiweenie]

43. She is a truly talented woman and an amazing performer. I'm 74 and I think her energy is stunning.

[amuse bouche]

45. Watch this song video

She is so spot on with lyrics. She really is brilliant

?si=GjTTwXz4yTkjhIPb

[mopinko]

57. i think i get it now.

good 1.

[Unwind Your Mind]

46. Marking to play all these clips later on the good speaker

Thanks everyone

[MotownPgh]

47. The Man!

I love her song The Man! Every time I watch it, I think to myself, I feel you Taylor, and I'm old! Not much has changed about attitudes toward women since I was her age.

[mopinko]

55. no kidding.

so incredibly fucking true. good lord, can u imagine? she’d b elon musk’s good twin.

[Lochloosa]

51. I'm not a Pop music fan. I did enjoy her early country music.

She is a talented song writer also.

[bif]

61. "tay tay"?

[mopinko]

63. welcome to today.

[flying rabbit]

66. Kicking to revisit this thread when time allows

[LeftInTX]

68. Miss Americana on Netflix is the documentary about her.

You don't have to sit through a bunch of music. It's more about her and the things she went through. It's easy to watch.

&ab_channel=TaylorSwift