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Quixote1818

(30,447 posts)
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 07:29 AM Feb 2024

Instead of calling them election deniers, shouldn't we start calling them

Democracy deniers? I think that lands a lot harder. Election denier sounds like the play it both sides garbage.

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Instead of calling them election deniers, shouldn't we start calling them (Original Post) Quixote1818 Feb 2024 OP
Coup plotters is better malaise Feb 2024 #1
It's certainly more accurate! 2naSalit Feb 2024 #2
Happy Sunday malaise Feb 2024 #4
You too! 2naSalit Feb 2024 #8
The Democracy Deniers in Congress are still actively working at sedition PTL_Mancuso Feb 2024 #13
Consequences are coming malaise Feb 2024 #15
Yep. They will be back in power before Captain Zero Feb 2024 #19
Maybe call them election riggers? gab13by13 Feb 2024 #3
Putin puppets Walleye Feb 2024 #5
Trump just told Putin to attack NATO countries, gab13by13 Feb 2024 #6
Some reason these idiot Magas can't get it through their head that Putin hates the United States Walleye Feb 2024 #11
You wouldn't believe all the things I call them. Emile Feb 2024 #7
traitors et tu Feb 2024 #9
That is one of the things I call them, in public. niyad Feb 2024 #23
super because it's true! nt et tu Feb 2024 #31
Excellent!! That. Is. It. It's not abllout one election, not bickering, they are trying to bulldoze democracy itself. mahina Feb 2024 #10
Considering The Source of This Theory modrepub Feb 2024 #12
In his 2006 book... surfered Feb 2024 #14
FASCISTS WORKS JUST AS WELL YoshidaYui Feb 2024 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author YoshidaYui Feb 2024 #17
It's MUCH deeper than that AverageOldGuy Feb 2024 #18
Great post malaise Feb 2024 #20
"WHY IS VOTER REGISTRATION A MATTER FOR THE STATES WHEN THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS A US CITIZEN RIGHT?" jaxexpat Feb 2024 #26
Traitors to democracy. Or just traitors for short. paleotn Feb 2024 #21
"Traitors" Seinan Sensei Feb 2024 #30
Seditionists is spot on Major Nikon Feb 2024 #22
Call them what they mostly are, fools and cannon fodder following Picket into the batteries on Cemetary Ridge. jaxexpat Feb 2024 #24
What's wrong with 'traitors'? That seems to fit perfectly. Scalded Nun Feb 2024 #25
Coup plotters blm Feb 2024 #27
Yes Ohioboy Feb 2024 #28
I just call them fascists relayerbob Feb 2024 #29
 

PTL_Mancuso

(276 posts)
13. The Democracy Deniers in Congress are still actively working at sedition
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 08:42 AM
Feb 2024

When, 3 years after the coup, you have 150 (give or take) seditionist U.S. Congress "law-makers" still making every effort to topple our democratic government and doing so with impunity (as far a mass media goes), then you have a both-sider death-dance that can only end in a bad way.

Those traitor dirtbags should be called out as Big Liars by our glorious fourth estate every damn time they are near a camera or microphone and forced to retreat and retract their yapping heads back into their shells forever. But, instead, they are given a free pass to continue spouting their hateful lies, to become more outlandish in their accusations, to continue fµcking us up. The press (and their back-room financiers) is in on it up to their eyebrows.


gab13by13

(25,624 posts)
3. Maybe call them election riggers?
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 07:50 AM
Feb 2024

I tried telling people that Trump already won Nevada before people voted. Nevada, I do not understand, held 2 elections, the first a primary where none of the above candidate wins, then later I guess some people get to vote again in a caucus where Trump already has the votes to win Nevada. The people of Nevada didn't select Donald Trump, the vote was already rigged for Trump.

This is how the GQP is rolling, and believe me they are going to try to cheat in the general election, we are going to need a few hundred Marc Elias'.

People in positions of power were not held accountable and it goes way back to DOJ allowing the Cyber Ninjas to have access to ballots, voter information, election equipment and materials. 2 private groups, not DOJ, filed a request for information from the Ninjas. they never produced the information, a judge fined them thousands of dollars a day but nothing happened, why, because the Ninjas was a bogus group with a mailbox for an office. DOJ should have intervened because Title 52 was violated.

People way back then defended DOJ's non-action. They will keep doing it because they are not being held accountable.

Violence against librarians, election workers, school board members, NARA employees, has increased since J6. We were told to be patient that once Kristen Clark was confirmed to the civil rights division of DOJ things would change, things did change, they got worse.

People in high places have immunity under this DOJ, and we have a member of the Federalist Society leading the FBI, a guy who lied to Congress.

It is up to us once again to vote them out, maybe a second time will work?

gab13by13

(25,624 posts)
6. Trump just told Putin to attack NATO countries,
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 08:07 AM
Feb 2024

but the headlines will be, Biden's age. DOJ must not be partisan to people in high places who are planning to destroy our democracy.

Walleye

(36,774 posts)
11. Some reason these idiot Magas can't get it through their head that Putin hates the United States
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 08:30 AM
Feb 2024

And Putin would love to see the United States is destroyed and in chaos, which is why he put so much effort into recruiting cultivating and getting Trump in power. Today there will be thousands of people spending money hand over fist in Las Vegas. At the same time they’re complaining about how bad the economy is

mahina

(19,197 posts)
10. Excellent!! That. Is. It. It's not abllout one election, not bickering, they are trying to bulldoze democracy itself.
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 08:24 AM
Feb 2024

I love it and will adopt that term starting now.

modrepub

(3,652 posts)
12. Considering The Source of This Theory
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 08:32 AM
Feb 2024

A point should be made that the primary source of this theory (Faux News) had to pay $787M for falsely promoting that the 2020 Presidential election (remember, there was nothing wrong with any election results where Republicans won) was "stolen".

Along those lines, we need to point out every time there's a repugnant news release from Faux, that they had to pay a significant settlement for their misleading newscasts about the 2020 election. Their credibility and predetermined political positions need to be called out. Lord knows the M$M has completely forgotten this little fact.

surfered

(4,102 posts)
14. In his 2006 book...
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 08:44 AM
Feb 2024

…John Dean called them “Conservatives Without Conscience,” and issued a warning, explaining their psychological bent toward authoritarianism, which is why they’re also attracted to Putin and Hungary’s Orban.

YoshidaYui

(43,015 posts)
16. FASCISTS WORKS JUST AS WELL
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 08:58 AM
Feb 2024

THEY want a dictatorship with TRUMP as their supreme leader, fuck him, he could not lead boyscouts down a stream.

Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

AverageOldGuy

(2,261 posts)
18. It's MUCH deeper than that
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 09:00 AM
Feb 2024

The Constitution guarantees to American citizens the right to vote. The original Constitution did not define citizen, that was done by the 14th amendment.

I am an American citizen by birthright. I live in Virginia. I AM NOT a citizen of Virginia; I'm a Virginia RESIDENT. If I move to New Mexico or Oregon, my US citizenship goes with me, my Virginia residency does not.

I have a passport issued by the USofA. Virginia cannot refuse to accept that passport as identification and Virginia has nothing to do with issuing the passport. The passport is based on CITIZENSHIP, not my residency.

The US has a Selective Service law and system -- a military draft to which all 18 year old males are subject. When a young man turns 18, he is automatically registered and automatically receives a notice from the Selective Service system.

WHY IS VOTER REGISTRATION A MATTER FOR THE STATES WHEN THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS A US CITIZEN RIGHT?

It is simple enough for the federal government to register voters. When a person turns 18, they receive a permanent voter ID card and a pamphlet welcoming them to the world of voting -- same as the Selective Service notice an 18-yr-old male receives.

If a person moves there should be an online system for the individual to change his/her address. That and other details are nothing but details that can be worked out.

We should have automatic, federally-controlled voter registration.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
26. "WHY IS VOTER REGISTRATION A MATTER FOR THE STATES WHEN THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS A US CITIZEN RIGHT?"
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 09:42 AM
Feb 2024

For the answer to that question, look to the founders of the constitution. Under the general heading "slavery", subheading "electoral college" (glossary note: "if we don't do what they say, Georgia, the Carolinas and Virginia will back out.&quot

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
24. Call them what they mostly are, fools and cannon fodder following Picket into the batteries on Cemetary Ridge.
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 09:35 AM
Feb 2024

Ohioboy

(3,538 posts)
28. Yes
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 09:50 AM
Feb 2024

The 2020 election was challenged more than any election in my lifetime, and the challenges failed. The only real fraud came from Trump. We have the tapes.

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