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Bill O'Reilly's "Leave It to Beaver" nightmare (Original Post) FourScore Nov 2012 OP
Should be run in every newspaper and newssite in the flipping world for a month straight. geckosfeet Nov 2012 #1
+1 nt snappyturtle Nov 2012 #2
It should also invade Bill O'Reilly's dreams every night Martin Eden Nov 2012 #6
R#7 & K n/t UTUSN Nov 2012 #3
K&R PatSeg Nov 2012 #4
Do you think that Ward ever discussed with June..... macacawitz Nov 2012 #5
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #7
Bolling strikes again. nt rrneck Nov 2012 #8
Brilliant! K&R myrna minx Nov 2012 #9
K & R Change has come Nov 2012 #10
Perfect! k&r frogmarch Nov 2012 #11
The insane thing about that whole era was that those "shows" were being written SoCalDem Nov 2012 #12
That is so true! Chemisse Nov 2012 #27
Another fun factoid: should we raise taxes on incomes over $250K? JHB Nov 2012 #13
It's not. That's the point. The rich blowhards are framing the argument that way. geckosfeet Nov 2012 #14
And they keep telling us its not about race. aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #15
We forget that stay at home mothers SCVDem Nov 2012 #16
Or seriously depressed....... llmart Nov 2012 #28
Back when you bought a new tv and went to school with the store owners kid. brewens Nov 2012 #17
We'll probably never have another Republican Jamaal510 Nov 2012 #18
yep. Trenchant. BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2012 #19
Another K&R ChazII Nov 2012 #20
This is spot on. K&R. Faryn Balyncd Nov 2012 #21
+100 HiPointDem Nov 2012 #22
I always want to call this columnist/artist/cartoonist "Tom Terrific" since his work is terrific We People Nov 2012 #23
K&R SunSeeker Nov 2012 #24
K&R Whovian Nov 2012 #25
Priceless! Sherman A1 Nov 2012 #26

geckosfeet

(9,644 posts)
1. Should be run in every newspaper and newssite in the flipping world for a month straight.
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 12:50 PM
Nov 2012

on edit: well - in the countries where "Leave it to Beaver" has any historical context at all.

macacawitz

(19 posts)
5. Do you think that Ward ever discussed with June.....
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 01:23 PM
Nov 2012

the relative merits of a falafel?

I find Billo repulsive. On so many levels.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
12. The insane thing about that whole era was that those "shows" were being written
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:01 PM
Nov 2012

by people who were probably well into their 40's & 50's, so that would have put THEIR nostalgia years that they drew on for inspiration, sometime in the late 30's & 40's.

The situations & atmosphere they set were passe long before any of those "shows" hit the airwaves.

TV was new, so of course people watched them, but the "youngsters" of the era...the REAL ones, were the first generation who would actively buck the system, and really rebel against authority...parental or otherwise.

Ironically, those "shows" may have been a catalyst and inspiration for the people who were teens/adolescents and were watching them with disdain and anticipation for what they would do when they were old enough..



Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
27. That is so true!
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 08:15 AM
Nov 2012

Watching these shows way back then, was like a peek into an idyllic past (at least it seemed to me, a preteen at the time) where the mothers were all so nice and nobody ever argued.

I recall wishing June Lockhart (the mom on Lassie) was my mother.

But a few years later I was wildly rebellious against that entire mode of existence.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
13. Another fun factoid: should we raise taxes on incomes over $250K?
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:09 PM
Nov 2012

In 1955 there were 24 tax brackets, 16 of which affected incomes over the equivalent of $250K once you adjust for inflation.

Those were the same tax laws as for 1960, but inflation may have shifted a bracket or two, so that 14-15 affected incomes above that level. (Don't have the numbers in front of me on Thanksgiving Day).

So why is it suddenly radical leftism/socialist/Marxism to do that in 2012?

geckosfeet

(9,644 posts)
14. It's not. That's the point. The rich blowhards are framing the argument that way.
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:23 PM
Nov 2012

Most people are too young (to remember tax structures "back then&quot and preoccupied with life's daily struggles to actually realize that they are being fed straight out lies.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
16. We forget that stay at home mothers
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:31 PM
Nov 2012

were frequently alcoholics and tranquilizers were a running joke. These women often didn't have a drivers license and families had one car.

They were bored to death.

The good old days, eh?

llmart

(15,540 posts)
28. Or seriously depressed.......
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 11:55 AM
Nov 2012

but couldn't afford tranquilizers. They had little access to birth control and often had a passel of kids who were mostly just an afterthought in their daily lives because they were too busy trying to hold it all together and not end up in the looney bin. And the father wasn't sitting down to dinner with a suit and tie and asking each child how their day went. He was shoveling his food in and doling out backhanders to the kids sitting closest to him if they even so much as made a peep.

Yeah, I speak from experience

brewens

(13,589 posts)
17. Back when you bought a new tv and went to school with the store owners kid.
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:54 PM
Nov 2012

No one resented that the kid had a pool and his dad always drove a new car. All that money stayed right in the community. That way of life really didn't have to change.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
18. We'll probably never have another Republican
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:59 PM
Nov 2012

who would even agree to return taxes to half the rate it was in 1960. Eisenhower was fine with taxing the rich, but nowadays all of a sudden it's some radical far-leftism to even ask for a return to the Clinton-era rates.
This is one sick country.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
19. yep. Trenchant.
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 03:55 PM
Nov 2012

I'm so tired of the disinformation. So sad about the idiots that believe it. So enraged at the corporate elites managing the whole circus.

(Corporate elites--not to be confused with intellectual "elites", or in other words, educated people who are also capable of logical thinking and critical judgment.)

rant off

We People

(619 posts)
23. I always want to call this columnist/artist/cartoonist "Tom Terrific" since his work is terrific
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 01:33 AM
Nov 2012

This time it is INCREDIBLY OUTSTANDING and totally ON POINT!

Thanks to FourScore for finding it on Daily Kos and posting it here!!

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