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78 (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Nov 2012 OP
That's a good trend. alfredo Nov 2012 #1
New Orleans is down to 165 this year. Lowering the population helped lower it RB TexLa Nov 2012 #2
very cool! NoMoreWarNow Nov 2012 #3
Not likely... This is a long term trend... reACTIONary Nov 2012 #4
Lead paint in crumbling inner-city homes… Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #6
I'm interested..... obxhead Nov 2012 #7
Here is a good summary... reACTIONary Nov 2012 #10
wow-- very interesting! NoMoreWarNow Nov 2012 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author obxhead Nov 2012 #8
My bet is on porn and video games. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #12
Not at all unlikely. n/t reACTIONary Nov 2012 #13
From the less informed.... obxhead Nov 2012 #5
Thanks for posting good news - the reduction in murders in DC Liberal_in_LA Nov 2012 #9
Violent crime is on a serious downturn, everywhere bhikkhu Nov 2012 #11
But - but - but - all crime everywhere has done nothing but increase! Posteritatis Nov 2012 #14
That's great. Why do you think that is? tavalon Nov 2012 #15

reACTIONary

(5,771 posts)
4. Not likely... This is a long term trend...
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 11:39 PM
Nov 2012

Last edited Sat Nov 24, 2012, 12:46 AM - Edit history (2)

... I don't have the numbers close to hand, but crime in general, and violent crime have been on a downward trend for a long, long time.

Explanations vary, and of course anyone who has a pet theory wants to take credit, but the most interesting theory I have heard is that it is due to the control of environmental lead.

Lead poisoning has some pretty well understood developmental effects that increase impulsivity, reactivity and other traits that strongly correlate with criminal behavior. Epidemiological studies have found a strong correlation between decreasing environmental lead and decreasing crime rate.

Here is an article about this explanation:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/07/AR2007070701073.html

Some epidemiological research:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/05/080527201839.htm

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
7. I'm interested.....
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 11:50 PM
Nov 2012

Have any links for this?

I ask because as a NOVA (Northern VA) resident and worker for 25 years I follow local DC politics etc closely. I have heard many programs over the last 2 decades on lead everywhere in DC and how hard they are working to remove it.

Not asking for links to prove your assertion, just to actually help prove it.

"You must have ate paint chips as a kid" became a saying for a reason after all.

reACTIONary

(5,771 posts)
10. Here is a good summary...
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 12:12 AM
Nov 2012
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/07/AR2007070701073.html

At first I searched through the book Freakonomics, because that's where I thought I had read this. But Freakonomics focuses on legalized abortion, and this researcher disputes that explanation:

"It is startling how much mileage has been given to the theory that abortion in the early 1970s was responsible for the decline in crime" in the 1990s, Nevin said. "But they legalized abortion in Britain, and the violent crime in Britain soared in the 1990s. The difference is our gasoline lead levels peaked in the early '70s and started falling in the late '70s, and fell very sharply through the early 1980s and was virtually eliminated by 1986 or '87.

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obxhead

(8,434 posts)
5. From the less informed....
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 11:45 PM
Nov 2012

They also legalized gun ownership...... I think.

Correlation? I really doubt it, but I'm betting the gun nuts come out soon.

My bet is the real cause is we're all fucking broke, so it's easier to work a few hours at McD's then kill someone for whatever is in their wallet.

bhikkhu

(10,720 posts)
11. Violent crime is on a serious downturn, everywhere
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 12:13 AM
Nov 2012


Perhaps most convincingly in US cities, as the data has been tracked pretty reliably for a long time. But worldwide all kinds of violence is declining as well - an overall "civilizing" effect.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
14. But - but - but - all crime everywhere has done nothing but increase!
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 12:18 AM
Nov 2012

At least that's what everyone who doesn't actually look at the statistics keeps telling me...

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