Revealed: documents shed light on shadowy US far-right fraternal order

[Lonestarblue]

A British-owned news site does a far better job of reporting on the organizations that secretly work to undo our democracy. US media rarely reports on any right-wing organizations, though they often report Republicans lies about the Soros Foundation. These organizations are actively working to turn the US into a theocracy. One would think that overturning democratic government for theocratic rule would be of some interest to our media.

“New documents have shed light on the origins and inner workings of the shadowy Society for American Civic Renewal (SACR), including methods for judging the beliefs of potential members on topics such as Christian nationalism, and indications that its founders sought inspiration in an apartheid-era South African white men-only group, the Afrikaner-Broederbond.

They also show that Boise State University Professor and Claremont thinktank scholar Scott Yenor tried to coordinate SACR’s activities with other initiatives, including an open letter on “Christian marriage”.

One expert says that one of the new documents – some previously reported in Talking Points Memo – use biblical references that suggest a preparedness for violent struggle against the current “regime”.

The SACR is a secretive far-right men-only organization with an emphasis on Christian nationalism and a desire to open branches across the US.“

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/19/far-right-fraternal-order-sacr

[lastlib]

1. Christofascist oligarchy on steroids, where rich white men rule.....

...all for their own benefit. As Carlin said, it's a club, and you ain't in it. And if they achieve their goals, the rest of us will pay the price. God, I despise these people! In a democracy, NO ONE gets a monopoly on power.

[RKP5637]

2. Same. "God, I despise these people!"

[jaxexpat]

11. One citizen one vote. Mathematically pure, simple and trustworthy Democracy. The US should try it someday.

It just might work.

But that stubborn old Constitution prevails. It undermines our democracy, to our detriment, on issues such as:

>the electoral college precedence for selecting the executive
>an arbitrary two US senators for each state, no matter the population (dirt's gotta vote, I suppose)
>unequal numbers of citizens represented per US congressman,
for instance:
Montana has 542,113 vs Delaware's 989,948 citizens per congressman. Seems to be, and actually is, grossly unequal. Is it any wonder why "state's rights" is the clarion call of democracy haters?

These ingredients in our "representative democracy" alter the recipe so that it cooks up minority rule, occasionally. Once is enough and we're still in recovery from two occasions of minority executive selection.

[NJCher]

17. and its subsequent influence

on the Supreme Court.

[jaxexpat]

24. .....and, literally, everything else.

[NJCher]

25. yep, and then

they use the media and "culture wars" to make it look like liberals run things.

[CrispyQ]

22. Dirt's gotta vote.

I drove a few right-wing cousins crazy when I posted this, which I got from a fellow DUer.

[peppertree]

15. And in their words: "And when God, when God gives us the signal, we're going to go kill everybody. That's what we do."

And the FBI? Crickets - because, after all, it's not a bunch of weed-smoking lefties so why bother.

[OldBaldy1701E]

18. Typical LEO strategy...

Why go after the people who are as well armed as you are when you can just waltz into a peaceful protest drum circle in a public park and proceed to crack heads over a few people smoking some weed? Far safer and less chance of losing any decent assets you might get to seize, thanks to the draconian laws about 'illegal substances'.

[calimary]

29. Giving legitimate religions a bad name.

[2naSalit]

3. K&R

Whatever became of The Family, that RW gang that DeMint became president of when he retired from Congress?

There was a book out about them when W was in office, I remember Rachel Maddow reporting about them when I first started watching her show.

[Lonestarblue]

4. They're still around. They sponsor the annual National Prayer Breakfast.

I don’t think they’re in the news much because there are now so many crazy right-wing organizations. Their funders are probably part of the numerous groups working to impose theocratic rule.

[Scrivener7]

6. Democrats have to stop attending that thing and giving it legitimacy.

[calimary]

30. Or maybe start something similar, OF THEIR OWN.

A group that upholds the real teachings of Jesus. And NOT for fun OR profit!

[erronis]

13. I believe The Family is part of the CNP - see Anne Nelson's Shadow Network

https://anne-nelson.com/

They're all intertwined with tons of cash coming in from various RW/libertarian sources. Xianity is just a cover for their wanting to deregulate the world.

[Joinfortmill]

5. Very fascist.

[peppertree]

20. Just like their orange goon

I bet Cheeto's already looking for cabinet/sensitive positions from within that group.

"I like that name - SACR - because they really are sacred, that I can tell you."

[Emile]

7. K & R

[AllaN01Bear]

8. snork

[Sanity Claws]

9. It's a hate group dressed up in religious robes

[malaise]

10. Is Musk funding this?

Rec

[h2ebits]

28. Elon Musk's name came directly to my mind. . . .

I used to think of him as a Democrat but during the Trump presidency he started spouting more and more BS. Perhaps he is not just funding it but is also the leader of it in the US. I view his move to Texas from California as the real turning point.

For the US government to be relying on SpaceX under his ownership, to me, is truly horrifying.

He has turned into a completely disgusting human being in my eyes. The more he speaks the more disgusting I find him.

[erronis]

12. You're absolutely right about The Guardian vs. the US M$M

The Guardian runs on donations (and I give at least once a year.) They also have a pretty well-staffed set of reporters in the US and covering the US.

And, of course kudos to ProPublica also.

By the way, I think the best ways to get news from these sites is via an RSS feed. There are plenty of free readers out there but I use InoReader - lots of search and viewing controls.

[RSherman]

14. In the Bible, there are 8 types of marriage/relationships

https://richardwaynegarganta.com/marriagetypes.htm

I just learned this last year. My minister showed me a diagram. Marriage in Biblical times was not only between one man and one woman.

https://www.quora.com/How-many-types-of-marriages-does-the-Bible-speak-of

So tired of these "Christian" nationalists pushing their made up narratives on everyone else. They are a minority trying to rule the majority. Very un-American.

[CrispyQ]

16. Wow. That was some depressing reading, yet people cringe when I say man created God to control woman.

They even co-opted the birth process & had God craft Eve from one of Adam's ribs.

God the Father, God the Son, & then there's a ghost. I guess that's the woman?

[RSherman]

19. The Exvangelics/Adam's rib

https://www.walmart.com/ip/The-Exvangelicals-Loving-Living-and-Leaving-the-White-Evangelical-Church-Hardcover-9781250284471/3122280404?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&adid=222222222273122280404_157086750239_20864137091&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=687924198847&wl4=pla-2270640649893&wl5=1022952&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=3122280404&veh=sem&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwkuqvBhAQEiwA65XxQN5vXDJjjCL1PVrZpwZzYkC_1XFwzl0llpafzT-OxmBCU9-L4x-fqxoC76kQAvD_BwE

I heard an interview with the author of "The Exvangelicals: Loving, Living, Leaving The White Evangelical Church"

She had a friend who, I think, was in medical school and was shocked to find men had all their ribs. The friend was so indoctrinated she literally thought all men were missing one rib because it was used to create women. Wow.

[NJCher]

21. all this religious stuff is stuff handed down

from people who were doing their best to make sense of the world; then it got corrupted, of course.

Because that's what hoomans do. Try to turn spiritual beliefs into a power cudgel.

There's a prominent U.S. attorney who had some health problems and subsequently nearly died, three times, I think. She wrote some books called the Backwards books and tells what she learned from this experience. None of this religious stuff has anything to do with what 's really going on.

[GuppyGal]

23. Joy Reid did a whole segment last night on this. nt

[dalton99a]

26. The master-race scholar:

https://www.boisestate.edu/sps-politicalscience/faculty/scott-yenor/


https://www.thedailybeast.com/scott-yenor-boise-state-university-professor-calls-for-women-to-be-kept-out-of-engineering-and-law

[calimary]

31. SHEESH! Hey, kids! Let's all play "Turn Back the Clock"!

Sounds like a real, true, living, breathing Neanderthal to me.

Maybe they’re just afraid of the competition. There are huge numbers of women in the business world who are, as my mom used to say, “sharp as a tack.”

[Oneironaut]

27. Wonder how many of them are pedos?

Probably at least half, as, these types usually have a few screws loose.