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onecaliberal

(33,395 posts)
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 01:21 PM Mar 31

So it seems the great United States is too weak and afraid to deal with the guy trying to destroy our constitution.

We are NOT a nation of laws. Laws are for the poor and politically powerless. If you are wealthy enough, you can delay and settle a case for literally anything. You can sell Americas most sensitive secrets to Putin, you can openly plot and finance an effort to overthrow the government, the patriarchy is always there to save itself. Weak and pathetic white men will make sure of it.
We are not all created equal. Ask black/brown people and women.
We are not a “Christian” nation. See the so called Christ followers worshiping an Orange rapist on a million + murder spree to be potus.
I don’t need to talk to the people who still see fit to support it, I have zero in common with these morally & ethically bankrupt douchebags who would rather kill us all.

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So it seems the great United States is too weak and afraid to deal with the guy trying to destroy our constitution. (Original Post) onecaliberal Mar 31 OP
Also, too afraid to ratify the UDHR. Too afraid to ratify the ERA. Marcus IM Mar 31 #1
And above all, too afraid of its plutocrat billionaires peppertree Mar 31 #28
Yup. That's my tag line...and I'm sticking with it. FailureToCommunicate Apr 1 #70
You can openly ignore multiple judges orders lame54 Mar 31 #2
Not just ignore, but openly violates the orders. Irish_Dem Mar 31 #23
Yup republianmushroom Mar 31 #3
So true. The judicial system has not served us well. brush Mar 31 #4
Putting Trump in jail for contempt of court gab13by13 Mar 31 #17
"Dana Nessel in Michigan has gone after several fake electors" Takket Mar 31 #20
The day after the election Garland must resign. Irish_Dem Mar 31 #24
The Stormy Daniels campaign finance trial gab13by13 Mar 31 #45
Be glad it's not federal... Trueblue Texan Apr 1 #62
Dana Nessel is a badass. llmart Apr 1 #60
Then take his devices away. Tape his mouth shut triron Mar 31 #22
I don't believe that nothing can be done about trump. brush Mar 31 #53
To God's ears, my dear! nt Trueblue Texan Apr 1 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author brush Apr 1 #74
trump lost before and will lose again, then will wind up in jail. brush Apr 1 #76
This message was self-deleted by its author brush Apr 1 #73
Putting Trump in jail may not solve the problem... Trueblue Texan Apr 1 #61
Not to worry, the documents case is in on track for a 2029 trial date BeyondGeography Mar 31 #5
Ken Paxton insider trading case Beachnutt Mar 31 #6
But Jeffrey Epstein got the death penalty (in reality). Perhaps Epstein threatened the bigs. erronis Mar 31 #29
He had a "list" (i suspect...) nt Justice matters. Mar 31 #48
The "bigs" get the job done. MOMFUDSKI Mar 31 #52
I am now, more than ever, a Stranger in a Strange Land. Bundbuster Mar 31 #7
My grandparents were born in Portugal. onecaliberal Mar 31 #9
I live among them in my small town, gab13by13 Mar 31 #15
I say nothing. They are dangerous. onecaliberal Mar 31 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author KPN Mar 31 #47
Grok! KPN Mar 31 #49
The big problem is that one of the two major political parties is fully complicit tanyev Mar 31 #8
The AG was nominated by a Dem POTUS. onecaliberal Mar 31 #10
The biggest mistake that President Biden made was nominating Merrick Garland. gab13by13 Mar 31 #14
And then keeping him MOMFUDSKI Mar 31 #55
They were saying "next time we'll vote with bullets, KPN Mar 31 #51
The fascists are the minority, gab13by13 Mar 31 #12
Waiting for DU's Garland defenders Sky Jewels Apr 1 #75
They showed up! Look down. Lol onecaliberal Apr 1 #80
The Top Cop Let Us Down gab13by13 Mar 31 #11
"officials will refuse to certify votes".... anciano Mar 31 #16
After the Hur report, we know Garland is complicit. Irish_Dem Mar 31 #26
I didn't need that report to know, but it confirmed suspicions. onecaliberal Mar 31 #31
Yes. It was confirmation of the obvious. Irish_Dem Mar 31 #33
Absolutely. I got hides for asking what AG was waiting for. onecaliberal Mar 31 #32
Welcome to the club, gab13by13 Mar 31 #39
Same. onecaliberal Mar 31 #41
Me too! MOMFUDSKI Mar 31 #56
PLs stop with the doomsday posts that nothing can be done. brush Mar 31 #57
"Occam's Razor - People Fear Trump" hadEnuf Apr 1 #67
The rise of wussiness has a lot to do with it. Laziness has always been there. gulliver Mar 31 #13
I blame a lot on Raygun. moondust Mar 31 #18
Makes me wish there is a hell for him to spend eternity SouthernDem4ever Mar 31 #35
Checks and balances BigMin28 Mar 31 #19
We are afraid of an ignorant dirty diaper rapist. Bluethroughu Mar 31 #25
Those death threats are real gab13by13 Mar 31 #40
I know they are real, but that is why they need real consequences. Bluethroughu Mar 31 #59
"Home of the brave"? world wide wally Mar 31 #27
I could just puke reading it. onecaliberal Mar 31 #30
True in the world wars, one against Fascism, now just a slogan... Justice matters. Mar 31 #50
We like to parrot what now has become a trite phrase that nobody is above the law elocs Mar 31 #34
one other requirement to get away from consequences IbogaProject Mar 31 #36
Putin succeeded cilla4progress Mar 31 #37
Kick orangecrush Mar 31 #38
The real man trying to destroy our Constitution is Vladimir Putin. Initech Mar 31 #42
How does Putin control Merick Garland? onecaliberal Mar 31 #43
What has Merrill Garland done wrong? TexasDem69 Mar 31 #58
I don't blame Garland. I blame the 6 Trump butt kissers on the SC, BlueKota Apr 1 #64
Amen! Joinfortmill Mar 31 #44
i call it the just us system and or rich mans court. AllaN01Bear Mar 31 #46
Yes things are bad but don't think they were worse PurgedVoter Mar 31 #54
We can vote and that is where our power lies. If the courts put Trump back in there will be no more voting. onecaliberal Apr 1 #66
Meh. This post is a pant-load of cynical anti-American BS! Oopsie Daisy Apr 1 #65
You think there is still hope for the MAGATs who want to openly murder us along with democracy? hadEnuf Apr 1 #68
Did I say that? Oopsie Daisy Apr 1 #69
I take the OP as extreme frustration with the fact that MAGATs are allowed to pretty much do what they want. hadEnuf Apr 1 #82
I agree MorbidButterflyTat Apr 1 #72
Hogwash is allowing the man who tried to overthrow the government to walk free to keep trying. onecaliberal Apr 1 #83
This. nt TeamProg Apr 1 #71
100 percent Traildogbob Apr 1 #77
The US is a nation of laws Progressive dog Apr 1 #78
The better way is to ENFORCE the law. onecaliberal Apr 1 #79
Trump is under multiple indictments Progressive dog Apr 1 #81

peppertree

(22,078 posts)
28. And above all, too afraid of its plutocrat billionaires
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 02:50 PM
Mar 31

That's the root cause of many of America's missteps and outright wrongs - as well as inactions.

brush

(54,526 posts)
4. So true. The judicial system has not served us well.
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 01:40 PM
Mar 31

Where's the courage to put the orange criminal defendant in jail for violating his bail stipulations, and also for openly plotting to bring down our democracy?

gab13by13

(22,027 posts)
17. Putting Trump in jail for contempt of court
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 02:12 PM
Mar 31

will not solve the problem.

Go to one of Michael Cohen's recent pod casts. Trump will get the word out to his thugs even if he is jail. Cohen said he walks around every day in fear for his life.

The time to act against Trump was in 2021. Maybe Alvin Bragg can slow him down? I fear the Georgia legislature will try to remove Fani. Dana Nessel in Michigan has gone after several fake electors after Garland sat on her criminal referral.

Takket

(21,905 posts)
20. "Dana Nessel in Michigan has gone after several fake electors"
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 02:25 PM
Mar 31

Yup. Yet another reason Garland should not be back for a second term if Biden wins. I live in Michigan. Nessel saw that this was a nationwide plot to overflow the duly elected president and did the right thing, giving her information to help further the Federal case, and Garland completely ignored her, and the problem.

So she was forced to move on this on her own, as other AGs in other states have done, when this should be a Federal investigation with Federal charges against the participants.

Irish_Dem

(50,367 posts)
24. The day after the election Garland must resign.
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 02:36 PM
Mar 31

He is way past due for leaving the federal government and never returning.
An abject failure.

gab13by13

(22,027 posts)
45. The Stormy Daniels campaign finance trial
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 03:37 PM
Mar 31

should be a federal trial, Trump ran for federal office. Garland bailed on "individual one,"

llmart

(15,651 posts)
60. Dana Nessel is a badass.
Mon Apr 1, 2024, 06:57 AM
Apr 1

I doubt she is intimidated by anyone. Too bad the so-called manly men can't be as principled as she is.

brush

(54,526 posts)
53. I don't believe that nothing can be done about trump.
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 03:56 PM
Mar 31

He's might think he can continue to do whatever he wants, but that won't last. His time is short and he will be tried soon, starting on April 15. His ass is going down.

Response to Trueblue Texan (Reply #63)

brush

(54,526 posts)
76. trump lost before and will lose again, then will wind up in jail.
Mon Apr 1, 2024, 12:07 PM
Apr 1

What's with all the doomsday posts, as if he's infallible?

Response to brush (Reply #53)

Trueblue Texan

(2,478 posts)
61. Putting Trump in jail may not solve the problem...
Mon Apr 1, 2024, 08:08 AM
Apr 1

...but it will give him a taste of justice and if he has to sit in jail until his appeals are decided, I suspect he'll be less eager to delay. He needs to be in jail, no matter our fears of repercussions.

Beachnutt

(7,482 posts)
6. Ken Paxton insider trading case
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 01:45 PM
Mar 31

is a prime example, after years of delay it has been dismissed.
Community service and a fine and it disappears.

erronis

(15,812 posts)
29. But Jeffrey Epstein got the death penalty (in reality). Perhaps Epstein threatened the bigs.
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 02:57 PM
Mar 31

Seems like an awful lot of the rich and powerful were connected to Epstein. Sex/power/money corrupts.

Bundbuster

(3,453 posts)
7. I am now, more than ever, a Stranger in a Strange Land.
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 01:47 PM
Mar 31

I first felt that way during the Nixon Years, but this time of MAGA lawlessness and ignorance really exiles me to the edge.

onecaliberal

(33,395 posts)
9. My grandparents were born in Portugal.
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 01:50 PM
Mar 31

I’m going to start looking into how to get out of here. I’m old and have had a difficult life. I’d like the end to
get a lot better or I’m ready to be done. I’m exhausted. I have to work with these type of people.

gab13by13

(22,027 posts)
15. I live among them in my small town,
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 02:07 PM
Mar 31

I don't bother talking politics with them I just throw out zingers to them, they are brainwashed.

Response to Bundbuster (Reply #7)

tanyev

(42,941 posts)
8. The big problem is that one of the two major political parties is fully complicit
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 01:48 PM
Mar 31

with the effort to destroy the Constitution. They have been working toward this for years, and have inserted many loyal foot soldiers into the judiciary and law enforcement agencies.

onecaliberal

(33,395 posts)
10. The AG was nominated by a Dem POTUS.
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 01:53 PM
Mar 31

AFTER we all witnessed the insurrection. Their complicity was all the more reason to go in right away and round up the criminals. Now they’re openly telling us when Trump loses they’re going to start shooting.

gab13by13

(22,027 posts)
14. The biggest mistake that President Biden made was nominating Merrick Garland.
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 02:04 PM
Mar 31

Democrats have to nominate Republicans or Independents to get people like Manchin and Sinema to vote for them. 20 freaking Republicans voted to confirm Garland. There is no proof that Garland is a member of the Federalist Society, but what in heaven's name would possess someone to monitor 12 federalist Society events if he wasn't sympathetic to them?

KPN

(15,725 posts)
51. They were saying "next time we'll vote with bullets,
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 03:56 PM
Mar 31

not ballots” shortly after the 2020 election actually. I heard a MAGAt say that to the cashier at our local building supply yard/store back then before J6. There’s no good explanation for the heal dragging other than Garland was a poor choice in my opinion. I’ve always felt his selection was fueled as much by wanting to rub it in Republicans’ face than anything else. In hindsight, it was a huge blunder.

gab13by13

(22,027 posts)
12. The fascists are the minority,
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 01:57 PM
Mar 31

They could have been stopped, or slowed way down. They cannot win fair elections because they are the minority, we need to be ready for them on election day because our justice department failed us. Trump today could be a convicted felon were he prosecuted in the spring of 2021.

Sky Jewels

(7,317 posts)
75. Waiting for DU's Garland defenders
Mon Apr 1, 2024, 12:03 PM
Apr 1

to show up and argue that Garland first had to deal with every lowly MAGA chump from Dumbfuckistan who showed up on 1/6/21 to do Dear Leader’s dirty work… 🙄🙄🙄

gab13by13

(22,027 posts)
11. The Top Cop Let Us Down
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 01:54 PM
Mar 31

or is complicit.

A bought and paid for judge is stopping one trial, and the Supreme Court is stopping another one.

If only. Accountability begins with the first step. We had a chance if back in 2021 "individual one" is prosecuted.

We are going to have chaos on election day: officials will refuse to certify votes across the country, lawsuits will be filed and the Magats will appeal to the fascist Supreme Court to send certification of votes back to state legislatures.

In Trump's first term he was just a president, a 2nd Trump term will be Pinocet-style dictatorship.

I posted for 3 years that Time Matters and was told something about ducks. Maybe Alvin Bragg can save the day, then again it was Bragg who shit canned the Pomerantz/Dunne criminal financial fraud prosecution.

onecaliberal your thread title is spot on, Occam's Razor - People Fear Trump.

anciano

(1,092 posts)
16. "officials will refuse to certify votes"....
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 02:07 PM
Mar 31

that is exactly what I suspect will happen, and I also fear that SCOTUS will indeed intervene and simply find a way to declare him the President. We shall see.....

onecaliberal

(33,395 posts)
32. Absolutely. I got hides for asking what AG was waiting for.
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 03:01 PM
Mar 31

Took a lot verbal garbage too. Sigh, and yet here we are.

gab13by13

(22,027 posts)
39. Welcome to the club,
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 03:12 PM
Mar 31

we got spanked for crying for justice, from the same characters.

I wear that criticism as a badge of honor. I still get it. 😊

brush

(54,526 posts)
57. PLs stop with the doomsday posts that nothing can be done.
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 04:15 PM
Mar 31

If the fascists think they will take over on election day, there are more Americans that outnumber them and will prevail on election day, just as we did on Jan. 6.

Let them try, they're not the only ones who are armed.

hadEnuf

(2,316 posts)
67. "Occam's Razor - People Fear Trump"
Mon Apr 1, 2024, 09:20 AM
Apr 1

Well, the Trumpists sure as hell don't fear us. Why would they?

They throw bombs, we throw toast.

gulliver

(13,245 posts)
13. The rise of wussiness has a lot to do with it. Laziness has always been there.
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 02:01 PM
Mar 31

Safetyism, pearl clutching, anxiety-medicalizing. Someone tell Mommy, or I will! After I finish this video.

moondust

(20,097 posts)
18. I blame a lot on Raygun.
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 02:16 PM
Mar 31

He basically let the amoral greed monsters out of their caves with his "trickle-down" and tax cut bullshit. They will never look back.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,618 posts)
35. Makes me wish there is a hell for him to spend eternity
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 03:06 PM
Mar 31

with all the other loons spawned during the limbaugh years that have croaked.

BigMin28

(1,194 posts)
19. Checks and balances
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 02:19 PM
Mar 31

to the system. We are told to trust them. I did. But since TSF took office, he has bullied and lashed out. Those checks and balances have done little to stop him. I have almost lost trust. Certainly in the courts.

gab13by13

(22,027 posts)
40. Those death threats are real
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 03:14 PM
Mar 31

I got them back in the 70's in my small town when I spoke truth to power defending our pristine watershed. I spent many sleepless nights, but I had the entire town behind me.

People really do fear Trump. Mitt Romney spent millions on security after he voted to convict Trump in the Senate.

Bluethroughu

(5,259 posts)
59. I know they are real, but that is why they need real consequences.
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 11:05 PM
Mar 31

If people understand there are long prison term consequences, the less likely they are going to act for another's benefit.

The bigger they are, the harder they fall.

elocs

(22,770 posts)
34. We like to parrot what now has become a trite phrase that nobody is above the law
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 03:03 PM
Mar 31

when clearly, that is not true. Justice delayed is justice denied for our timid judges.

IbogaProject

(2,944 posts)
36. one other requirement to get away from consequences
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 03:06 PM
Mar 31

The current golden rule, the wealthy can get away with anything except ripping off others of the well-to-do class. That error took down SBF and Madoff.

Initech

(100,387 posts)
42. The real man trying to destroy our Constitution is Vladimir Putin.
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 03:18 PM
Mar 31

The Orange Asshole and the MAGA Q nutjobs in Congress and the Senate are merely doing his dirty work. If we could take out the big boss himself, the rest of his minions would fall like dominoes.

TexasDem69

(2,075 posts)
58. What has Merrill Garland done wrong?
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 04:52 PM
Mar 31

What crimes did Trump commit that he hasn't already been charged with?

BlueKota

(2,145 posts)
64. I don't blame Garland. I blame the 6 Trump butt kissers on the SC,
Mon Apr 1, 2024, 08:22 AM
Apr 1

and every judge who does not call for law enforcement to enforce the gag orders they themselves placed on him.

He thumbs his nose at them, and does everything possible to prove he can, & get away with it, because he pretty much can.

More judges with backbones need to start calling his bluffs, but I am not holding my breath for that to start happening. Would love to be proven wrong on this though.

PurgedVoter

(2,239 posts)
54. Yes things are bad but don't think they were worse
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 03:57 PM
Mar 31

I have lived when, "She offended my honor," was a defense for killing a wife. "She dressed that way," was a defense for rape. I have been in churches where the respected patriarchs were vocally pro slavery. People who just wanted to use the nukes were not hard to find when I was young. Politicians advocated for such.

We are making progress. At each step forward, the fools, cultists, and thieves come out of the woodwork and show how miserable we are as a species. Each time they reveal themselves as twisted, the evolved members of the species see. Each time a few of the bad look around at the violent, the liars, the thieves and opportunists, and turn to the light. Some stay on the border, but they have started to see. We are making progress, Never Trumpers, Liz Cheney, Stephen Schmidt, and Rick Wilson are examples.

The point is to never give up. There will always be dragons too large for you to personally face, but when you can, stand up for what you can.

onecaliberal

(33,395 posts)
66. We can vote and that is where our power lies. If the courts put Trump back in there will be no more voting.
Mon Apr 1, 2024, 09:12 AM
Apr 1

There will be no more nothing for people like me.

Oopsie Daisy

(3,088 posts)
65. Meh. This post is a pant-load of cynical anti-American BS!
Mon Apr 1, 2024, 08:36 AM
Apr 1
>> I don’t need to talk to the people who still see fit to support it, I have zero in common with these morally & ethically bankrupt douchebags who would rather kill us all.
Well, I support our nation. We're not perfect. It's not a perfect world. But many of us DO support this nation regardless of the insults hurled at us. We're working and VOTING to make our union "more perfect". --- So, for anyone who truly feels that way, I guess they can go ahead and give up and shit all over the rest of us who are trying.

hadEnuf

(2,316 posts)
68. You think there is still hope for the MAGATs who want to openly murder us along with democracy?
Mon Apr 1, 2024, 09:28 AM
Apr 1

Good luck with that.

hadEnuf

(2,316 posts)
82. I take the OP as extreme frustration with the fact that MAGATs are allowed to pretty much do what they want.
Mon Apr 1, 2024, 04:49 PM
Apr 1

Not as an actual slam at the country as a whole.

We are all watching a slow-motion train wreck as these terrorists are openly hatching plans to take over the government, probably with violence, while certain people in government who might make a difference are wringing their hands.

MorbidButterflyTat

(1,958 posts)
72. I agree
Mon Apr 1, 2024, 11:13 AM
Apr 1

...and thank you for posting this.

I can understand frustration, but the United States is too weak and afraid?? Home of the brave is puke-worthy?? I suppose that makes the US military "suckers and losers"? WTAF.

The entire country of hundreds of millions is responsible for letting people down who want what they want when they want it?

Ugly defeatist hogwash.

onecaliberal

(33,395 posts)
83. Hogwash is allowing the man who tried to overthrow the government to walk free to keep trying.
Mon Apr 1, 2024, 07:24 PM
Apr 1

Hogwash is defending the stance that he should be free to do to it all again. What a steaming pant load.

Traildogbob

(9,081 posts)
77. 100 percent
Mon Apr 1, 2024, 12:11 PM
Apr 1

Coward judiciary, coward senate, coward congress.
All for one fat ass joke.All being paid by We The People that pay taxes.
We need to apologize to all the soldiers under ground that showed what bravery “was”.
The National anthem is a joke, the flag will not be there after this shit takes over.
Embarrassing Nation.
Not a proud veteran here. Will not stand for that anthem, remove my hat or place my hand over my heart. Until some bravery comes fourth and ends this joke. The ones bringing that bravery should hold “all” the positions of the 3 branches. Earning our pay to them.

Progressive dog

(6,944 posts)
78. The US is a nation of laws
Mon Apr 1, 2024, 12:49 PM
Apr 1

The problem is people not obeying them or thinking that they are above them. If you have a better way, you should explain it. What part don't you like-- Juries, probable cause, beyond a reasonable doubt, no kings or rulers that can lock you up or kill you because they don't like you, or is it just having laws that upsets you?

Progressive dog

(6,944 posts)
81. Trump is under multiple indictments
Mon Apr 1, 2024, 01:18 PM
Apr 1

Now due process is being obstructed by Trump's attorneys but the law is being enforced.

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