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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo it seems the great United States is too weak and afraid to deal with the guy trying to destroy our constitution.
We are NOT a nation of laws. Laws are for the poor and politically powerless. If you are wealthy enough, you can delay and settle a case for literally anything. You can sell Americas most sensitive secrets to Putin, you can openly plot and finance an effort to overthrow the government, the patriarchy is always there to save itself. Weak and pathetic white men will make sure of it.
We are not all created equal. Ask black/brown people and women.
We are not a Christian nation. See the so called Christ followers worshiping an Orange rapist on a million + murder spree to be potus.
I dont need to talk to the people who still see fit to support it, I have zero in common with these morally & ethically bankrupt douchebags who would rather kill us all.
Marcus IM
(2,477 posts)Backwater nation living in the past.
peppertree
(22,078 posts)That's the root cause of many of America's missteps and outright wrongs - as well as inactions.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,086 posts)-FTC
lame54
(35,489 posts)Irish_Dem
(50,367 posts)Judges do nothing.
republianmushroom
(14,659 posts)brush
(54,526 posts)Where's the courage to put the orange criminal defendant in jail for violating his bail stipulations, and also for openly plotting to bring down our democracy?
gab13by13
(22,027 posts)will not solve the problem.
Go to one of Michael Cohen's recent pod casts. Trump will get the word out to his thugs even if he is jail. Cohen said he walks around every day in fear for his life.
The time to act against Trump was in 2021. Maybe Alvin Bragg can slow him down? I fear the Georgia legislature will try to remove Fani. Dana Nessel in Michigan has gone after several fake electors after Garland sat on her criminal referral.
Takket
(21,905 posts)Yup. Yet another reason Garland should not be back for a second term if Biden wins. I live in Michigan. Nessel saw that this was a nationwide plot to overflow the duly elected president and did the right thing, giving her information to help further the Federal case, and Garland completely ignored her, and the problem.
So she was forced to move on this on her own, as other AGs in other states have done, when this should be a Federal investigation with Federal charges against the participants.
Irish_Dem
(50,367 posts)He is way past due for leaving the federal government and never returning.
An abject failure.
gab13by13
(22,027 posts)should be a federal trial, Trump ran for federal office. Garland bailed on "individual one,"
Trueblue Texan
(2,478 posts)...He can't pardon himself from a state crime.
llmart
(15,651 posts)I doubt she is intimidated by anyone. Too bad the so-called manly men can't be as principled as she is.
triron
(22,106 posts)Like Lester Luther.
brush
(54,526 posts)He's might think he can continue to do whatever he wants, but that won't last. His time is short and he will be tried soon, starting on April 15. His ass is going down.
Trueblue Texan
(2,478 posts)Response to Trueblue Texan (Reply #63)
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brush
(54,526 posts)What's with all the doomsday posts, as if he's infallible?
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Trueblue Texan
(2,478 posts)...but it will give him a taste of justice and if he has to sit in jail until his appeals are decided, I suspect he'll be less eager to delay. He needs to be in jail, no matter our fears of repercussions.
BeyondGeography
(39,437 posts)Link to tweet
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Beachnutt
(7,482 posts)is a prime example, after years of delay it has been dismissed.
Community service and a fine and it disappears.
erronis
(15,812 posts)Seems like an awful lot of the rich and powerful were connected to Epstein. Sex/power/money corrupts.
Justice matters.
(7,004 posts)MOMFUDSKI
(6,283 posts)The judges not so much.
Bundbuster
(3,453 posts)I first felt that way during the Nixon Years, but this time of MAGA lawlessness and ignorance really exiles me to the edge.
onecaliberal
(33,395 posts)Im going to start looking into how to get out of here. Im old and have had a difficult life. Id like the end to
get a lot better or Im ready to be done. Im exhausted. I have to work with these type of people.
gab13by13
(22,027 posts)I don't bother talking politics with them I just throw out zingers to them, they are brainwashed.
onecaliberal
(33,395 posts)This is Kevins old district.
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tanyev
(42,941 posts)with the effort to destroy the Constitution. They have been working toward this for years, and have inserted many loyal foot soldiers into the judiciary and law enforcement agencies.
onecaliberal
(33,395 posts)AFTER we all witnessed the insurrection. Their complicity was all the more reason to go in right away and round up the criminals. Now theyre openly telling us when Trump loses theyre going to start shooting.
gab13by13
(22,027 posts)Democrats have to nominate Republicans or Independents to get people like Manchin and Sinema to vote for them. 20 freaking Republicans voted to confirm Garland. There is no proof that Garland is a member of the Federalist Society, but what in heaven's name would possess someone to monitor 12 federalist Society events if he wasn't sympathetic to them?
MOMFUDSKI
(6,283 posts)on.
KPN
(15,725 posts)not ballots shortly after the 2020 election actually. I heard a MAGAt say that to the cashier at our local building supply yard/store back then before J6. Theres no good explanation for the heal dragging other than Garland was a poor choice in my opinion. Ive always felt his selection was fueled as much by wanting to rub it in Republicans face than anything else. In hindsight, it was a huge blunder.
gab13by13
(22,027 posts)They could have been stopped, or slowed way down. They cannot win fair elections because they are the minority, we need to be ready for them on election day because our justice department failed us. Trump today could be a convicted felon were he prosecuted in the spring of 2021.
Sky Jewels
(7,317 posts)to show up and argue that Garland first had to deal with every lowly MAGA chump from Dumbfuckistan who showed up on 1/6/21 to do Dear Leaders dirty work 🙄🙄🙄
onecaliberal
(33,395 posts)gab13by13
(22,027 posts)or is complicit.
A bought and paid for judge is stopping one trial, and the Supreme Court is stopping another one.
If only. Accountability begins with the first step. We had a chance if back in 2021 "individual one" is prosecuted.
We are going to have chaos on election day: officials will refuse to certify votes across the country, lawsuits will be filed and the Magats will appeal to the fascist Supreme Court to send certification of votes back to state legislatures.
In Trump's first term he was just a president, a 2nd Trump term will be Pinocet-style dictatorship.
I posted for 3 years that Time Matters and was told something about ducks. Maybe Alvin Bragg can save the day, then again it was Bragg who shit canned the Pomerantz/Dunne criminal financial fraud prosecution.
onecaliberal your thread title is spot on, Occam's Razor - People Fear Trump.
anciano
(1,092 posts)that is exactly what I suspect will happen, and I also fear that SCOTUS will indeed intervene and simply find a way to declare him the President. We shall see.....
Irish_Dem
(50,367 posts)onecaliberal
(33,395 posts)Strongly supported ones I might add.
Irish_Dem
(50,367 posts)onecaliberal
(33,395 posts)Took a lot verbal garbage too. Sigh, and yet here we are.
gab13by13
(22,027 posts)we got spanked for crying for justice, from the same characters.
I wear that criticism as a badge of honor. I still get it. 😊
onecaliberal
(33,395 posts)MOMFUDSKI
(6,283 posts)Wish I had been wrong
brush
(54,526 posts)If the fascists think they will take over on election day, there are more Americans that outnumber them and will prevail on election day, just as we did on Jan. 6.
Let them try, they're not the only ones who are armed.
hadEnuf
(2,316 posts)Well, the Trumpists sure as hell don't fear us. Why would they?
They throw bombs, we throw toast.
gulliver
(13,245 posts)Safetyism, pearl clutching, anxiety-medicalizing. Someone tell Mommy, or I will! After I finish this video.
SouthernDem4ever
(6,618 posts)with all the other loons spawned during the limbaugh years that have croaked.
BigMin28
(1,194 posts)to the system. We are told to trust them. I did. But since TSF took office, he has bullied and lashed out. Those checks and balances have done little to stop him. I have almost lost trust. Certainly in the courts.
Bluethroughu
(5,259 posts)Excuses for the rich.
gab13by13
(22,027 posts)I got them back in the 70's in my small town when I spoke truth to power defending our pristine watershed. I spent many sleepless nights, but I had the entire town behind me.
People really do fear Trump. Mitt Romney spent millions on security after he voted to convict Trump in the Senate.
Bluethroughu
(5,259 posts)If people understand there are long prison term consequences, the less likely they are going to act for another's benefit.
The bigger they are, the harder they fall.
world wide wally
(21,762 posts)Yeah, right
onecaliberal
(33,395 posts)Justice matters.
(7,004 posts)in lyrics.
elocs
(22,770 posts)when clearly, that is not true. Justice delayed is justice denied for our timid judges.
IbogaProject
(2,944 posts)The current golden rule, the wealthy can get away with anything except ripping off others of the well-to-do class. That error took down SBF and Madoff.
cilla4progress
(24,951 posts)at pulling back the curtain and exposing our democracy for the sham it is, Im afraid.
orangecrush
(19,893 posts)Initech
(100,387 posts)The Orange Asshole and the MAGA Q nutjobs in Congress and the Senate are merely doing his dirty work. If we could take out the big boss himself, the rest of his minions would fall like dominoes.
onecaliberal
(33,395 posts)Hes in charge at DOJ. Not Putin.
TexasDem69
(2,075 posts)What crimes did Trump commit that he hasn't already been charged with?
BlueKota
(2,145 posts)and every judge who does not call for law enforcement to enforce the gag orders they themselves placed on him.
He thumbs his nose at them, and does everything possible to prove he can, & get away with it, because he pretty much can.
More judges with backbones need to start calling his bluffs, but I am not holding my breath for that to start happening. Would love to be proven wrong on this though.
Joinfortmill
(14,799 posts)AllaN01Bear
(19,915 posts)PurgedVoter
(2,239 posts)I have lived when, "She offended my honor," was a defense for killing a wife. "She dressed that way," was a defense for rape. I have been in churches where the respected patriarchs were vocally pro slavery. People who just wanted to use the nukes were not hard to find when I was young. Politicians advocated for such.
We are making progress. At each step forward, the fools, cultists, and thieves come out of the woodwork and show how miserable we are as a species. Each time they reveal themselves as twisted, the evolved members of the species see. Each time a few of the bad look around at the violent, the liars, the thieves and opportunists, and turn to the light. Some stay on the border, but they have started to see. We are making progress, Never Trumpers, Liz Cheney, Stephen Schmidt, and Rick Wilson are examples.
The point is to never give up. There will always be dragons too large for you to personally face, but when you can, stand up for what you can.
onecaliberal
(33,395 posts)There will be no more nothing for people like me.
Oopsie Daisy
(3,088 posts)Well, I support our nation. We're not perfect. It's not a perfect world. But many of us DO support this nation regardless of the insults hurled at us. We're working and VOTING to make our union "more perfect". --- So, for anyone who truly feels that way, I guess they can go ahead and give up and shit all over the rest of us who are trying.
hadEnuf
(2,316 posts)Good luck with that.
Oopsie Daisy
(3,088 posts)hadEnuf
(2,316 posts)Not as an actual slam at the country as a whole.
We are all watching a slow-motion train wreck as these terrorists are openly hatching plans to take over the government, probably with violence, while certain people in government who might make a difference are wringing their hands.
MorbidButterflyTat
(1,958 posts)...and thank you for posting this.
I can understand frustration, but the United States is too weak and afraid?? Home of the brave is puke-worthy?? I suppose that makes the US military "suckers and losers"? WTAF.
The entire country of hundreds of millions is responsible for letting people down who want what they want when they want it?
Ugly defeatist hogwash.
onecaliberal
(33,395 posts)Hogwash is defending the stance that he should be free to do to it all again. What a steaming pant load.
TeamProg
(6,630 posts)Traildogbob
(9,081 posts)Coward judiciary, coward senate, coward congress.
All for one fat ass joke.All being paid by We The People that pay taxes.
We need to apologize to all the soldiers under ground that showed what bravery was.
The National anthem is a joke, the flag will not be there after this shit takes over.
Embarrassing Nation.
Not a proud veteran here. Will not stand for that anthem, remove my hat or place my hand over my heart. Until some bravery comes fourth and ends this joke. The ones bringing that bravery should hold all the positions of the 3 branches. Earning our pay to them.
Progressive dog
(6,944 posts)The problem is people not obeying them or thinking that they are above them. If you have a better way, you should explain it. What part don't you like-- Juries, probable cause, beyond a reasonable doubt, no kings or rulers that can lock you up or kill you because they don't like you, or is it just having laws that upsets you?
onecaliberal
(33,395 posts)Period!
Progressive dog
(6,944 posts)Now due process is being obstructed by Trump's attorneys but the law is being enforced.