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WhoIsNumberNone

(7,875 posts)
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 07:27 PM Jan 2012

TYT: Bourdain Slams Paula Deen After Diabetes Announcement



Travel Channel star Anthony Bourdain slammed star chef Paula Deen (famous for her doughnut burger) after she announced she had Type 2 diabetes - coincidentally after she struck a deal to advertise diabetes medication. Ana Kasparian and Cenk Uygur discuss on The Young Turks.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/01/17/butter-connoisseur-paula-deen-admits-type-2-diabetes-battle/
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TYT: Bourdain Slams Paula Deen After Diabetes Announcement (Original Post) WhoIsNumberNone Jan 2012 OP
As he should. liberalmuse Jan 2012 #1
exactly the way i would describe him...i probably wouldn't like him in person, but... ret5hd Jan 2012 #5
Who cares what that self-absorbed hipster has to say? MNBrewer Jan 2012 #15
As he smokes unfiltered cigarettes... Drahthaardogs Jan 2012 #20
IIRC Bourdain quit smoking a couple of years ago hifiguy Jan 2012 #30
Paula Deen’s Health Food Cookbook PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #2
Hahahaha! liberalmuse Jan 2012 #3
That stuff actually sounds pretty good geomon666 Jan 2012 #21
Tempting taste treat gort Jan 2012 #22
does butter cause diabetes? Enrique Jan 2012 #4
No it does not. In actuality Butter is one of the healthiest fats next to Coconut oil you can eat. vaberella Jan 2012 #6
Butter is not healthy and the jury is still out on coconut MattBaggins Jan 2012 #11
No it's health in moderation. vaberella Jan 2012 #13
I will agree that coconut oil MAY not be as bad as thought MattBaggins Jan 2012 #17
Yay! Someone who understands food! Fawke Em Jan 2012 #26
Totally because that turns directly into sugar when broken down. vaberella Jan 2012 #29
Yes MattBaggins Jan 2012 #7
You have that backwards eridani Jan 2012 #27
Excess weight is a contributing factor and excess fats can be a factor in excess weight. PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #8
Type 2 diabetes is often linked with weight Ms. Toad Jan 2012 #9
Often, but not always. RebelOne Jan 2012 #18
I know. Ms. Toad Jan 2012 #28
Does it matter if it does? gratuitous Jan 2012 #10
Yeah Bourdain secretly has throat cancer and is subliminally influencing his huge teenage audience Tunkamerica Jan 2012 #12
Paul Campos at LGM said it quite well gratuitous Jan 2012 #14
I was just agreeing with you that he shouldn't be allowed to have opinions because he smokes. Tunkamerica Jan 2012 #19
Bourdain has no problem with butter as I've read both Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2012 #23
"Southern Cooking" as it's called is quite deadly. Dawson Leery Jan 2012 #16
I can "cook Southern" without tons of fat. Fawke Em Jan 2012 #25
Bourdain Slams Everyone Fawke Em Jan 2012 #24

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
1. As he should.
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 07:28 PM
Jan 2012

Yes, Bourdain can be an asshat, but he's an honest asshat, and is right on with his criticism on this. BTW, I love him!

ret5hd

(20,491 posts)
5. exactly the way i would describe him...i probably wouldn't like him in person, but...
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 07:43 PM
Jan 2012

i certainly like his shows.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
20. As he smokes unfiltered cigarettes...
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 11:15 PM
Jan 2012

Will he still be saying "I told you so" after the widowmaker hits?

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
2. Paula Deen’s Health Food Cookbook
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 07:30 PM
Jan 2012
http://meganamram.tumblr.com/post/16069488163/paula-deens-health-food-cookbook

Recently, Paula Deen has admitted that she’s had Type II Diabetes for years. Accordingly, she’s putting out a cookbook of healthy food. Here are some excerpts!

FRUIT SALAD

INGREDIENTS:
1 lb. bag of Skittles
3 cups ranch dressing

DIRECTIONS:
Mix well. Serve room temperature.

-
PAULA’S BROWN RICE

INGREDIENTS:
1 pilaf white rice
1 bowl melted Junior Mints

DIRECTIONS:
Cover rice in chocolate. Serve with maple syrup to taste. To splurge, top with a sprinkle of sausage calzones.

-
SCRAMBLED EGG WHITES

INGREDIENTS:
1 dozen (12) Cadbury eggs
2 lbs. Frito crumbs
1 package extra-fat pork lard
1 pilaf Paula’s brown rice

DIRECTIONS:
Break the Cadbury eggs and harvest the crème-filled white centers. Dip them in the Frito crumbs. Put the lard (make SURE to get the extra-fat kind or it will be BLAND) in a frying pan on high heat, and fry the crème centers until golden-brown. Serve on a bed of Paula’s brown rice.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
4. does butter cause diabetes?
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 07:37 PM
Jan 2012

serious question, I don't know much about diabetes but I never linked it with butter.

vaberella

(24,634 posts)
6. No it does not. In actuality Butter is one of the healthiest fats next to Coconut oil you can eat.
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 07:46 PM
Jan 2012

It's actually the type of fat you should be taking in. Margarine is the real killer.

Cenk's statement is someone who knows nothing about the condition. The reason I know is because I have syndrome X--- meaning one of the many of millions of people on earth who are on the verge of Diabetes Type II and I am on metformin. Not to mention I have family who has died from it and literally no joke every single person in my family has diabetes.

We're Afro-Caribbean...in those of African descent Type II diabetes is connected on one side to poor diet and secondly to a lack of vitamin D...actually more so lack of very little Vitamin D. We don't get enough of it. While Whites or Caucasians make a good deal in about 30 minutes....our body needs a few hours of it depending on pigmentation. Funny how that works. But definitely diet is a major player---butter is not a problem.

We even have to have fruit in moderation. For instance I can't bananas...two banana's make my blood pressure and sugar levels skyrocket. I look like I'm on crack.

MattBaggins

(7,904 posts)
11. Butter is not healthy and the jury is still out on coconut
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 07:57 PM
Jan 2012

oil though most doctors and experts stand on the side of coconut oil not being good for you.

Margarine is not a killer depending on the type. Stick margarine is as bad as butter because it is intentionally saturated to make it hard but soft margarine from monounsaturated oils are not bad for you if used properly and lightly.

vaberella

(24,634 posts)
13. No it's health in moderation.
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 08:10 PM
Jan 2012

Far better than the unprocessed items in margarine. Coconut oil is actually quite healthy for you. Studies have been done on nations that use coconut oil as their cooking product---such as Thailand. These people have actually little to no heart conditions and rare if ever cases of diabetes or being overweight.

Not to mention Coconut oil is actually recommended for people who have insulin peeks to take because the properties in it can actually help minimize the initial spike.

butter stuff: http://bodyecology.com/articles/benefits_of_real_butter.php
coconut oil and fat stuff: http://www.amazon.com/Know-Your-Fats-Understanding-Cholesterol/dp/0967812607/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1327017925&sr=1-1

MattBaggins

(7,904 posts)
17. I will agree that coconut oil MAY not be as bad as thought
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 10:13 PM
Jan 2012

There is actual legitimate research being done it and other such oils.

The website you linked about butter is full on woo however. Butter is as processed and no more "natural" than margarine.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
26. Yay! Someone who understands food!
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 11:27 PM
Jan 2012

It's CARBs that cause diabetes.

Now, fat can cause liver damage, but just drinks tons and tons of water and you'll be FINE.

vaberella

(24,634 posts)
29. Totally because that turns directly into sugar when broken down.
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 05:47 PM
Jan 2012

That's the other reason I'm following a mesh of food combining/paleolithic/liquid diet to manage my weight and health. I have a case of gastroparesis which is actually associated with diabetes.

MattBaggins

(7,904 posts)
7. Yes
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 07:49 PM
Jan 2012

and I'm going to get jumped on for this. All that butter will make you heavier and each pound you gain will potentially raise your insulin resistance. Diabetes management is not just solely about counting carbs. She has been to a diabetic nutritionist and knows the correlation between diabetes and heart disease.

I am a type II diabetic with heart disease.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
27. You have that backwards
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 11:34 PM
Jan 2012

Insulin resistance leads to weight gain, at least in those people who respond to it by making massive amounts of extra insulin. It's the insulin that results in weight gain. Those type II people who can't respond with more insulin are normal weight, and three times more likely to die or develop morbid symptoms than the fatties.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
8. Excess weight is a contributing factor and excess fats can be a factor in excess weight.
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 07:50 PM
Jan 2012

In addition, Paula is as liberal with sugar and heavy cream and all kinds of high-calorie/low nutrition foods as she is with butter.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
9. Type 2 diabetes is often linked with weight
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 07:51 PM
Jan 2012

butter (any oil) is the most calorie dense food there is.

So - it is an indirect cause, since eating lots of butter may well add to your weight.

That said, not all type 2 diabetes is weight related. My spouse at 5'2" has never been overweight, and is currently around 115. She has type 2 diabetes, and they don't quite know how to advise her since the first piece of advice is always "lose weight."

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
18. Often, but not always.
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 10:30 PM
Jan 2012

Type II diabetes is often linked to genetics, which is the case in my family. All my relatives (mother, aunts, uncles and grandmother) developed type II diabetes in their 60s, 70s and 80s and none of them other than my grandmother were overweight. My sister, who is 65, was just informed by her doctor that she has type II diabetes. My doctor told me a few years ago that I was pre-diabetic. So far, I have not developed it. I am 73 years old and a vegetarian, so I think that has a bit to do with it.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
28. I know.
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 11:35 PM
Jan 2012

In addition to my spouse who is not overweight, my grandfather and all of his descendants ove 60 are diabetic. He was skinny. His son is thin. His daughter (my mother) has been overweight for at least half of her life (but controlled her diabetes by diet for years - but now is lighter than she has been in years but requires two meds and is losing the A1C battle).

I was mostly commenting on the fact that the one of the first things they do is send you to a nutritionist, and I have yet to hear of a nutritionist who does anything other than work on weight reduction.

The interesting thing is that type 1 is supposed to be less hereditory, but there is a family cluster where I grew up - father, two children, and a cousin all had it.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. Does it matter if it does?
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 07:52 PM
Jan 2012

Anthony Bourdain's being a Class A jerk about this, and if more people get tested for diabetes and treat it, I'm all for Paula Deen's announcement.

And for those who don't think Bourdain's being a Class A jerk, keep that thought uppermost as Bourdain ages and he continues to smoke and drink as much as he does. Because there will inevitably be folks who talk about him the same way he's talking about Deen.

Tunkamerica

(4,444 posts)
12. Yeah Bourdain secretly has throat cancer and is subliminally influencing his huge teenage audience
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 08:02 PM
Jan 2012

to smoke (by smoking in his private life) so he can hawk anti-cancer drugs. His first book, "101 ways to Smoke" just looks like it's in bad taste now.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
14. Paul Campos at LGM said it quite well
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 08:15 PM
Jan 2012

"Moralizing Illness and Weight"

The belief that one can significantly lessen the risk for developing diabetes by avoiding certain foods has no scientific basis, but since it fits in so well with our general tendency to moralize illness and our specific fear and loathing of both dietary and body fat, it’s extremely commonplace.

The gender dynamics inherent in Anthony Bourdain’s criticisms of Deen are particularly interesting. Bourdain’s books paint a picture of a man who eats exactly what he wants whenever he wants (and what he wants to eat is very often high-fat classic French cuisine), and who has never counted a calorie or “worked out” in his life. On top of that he cheerfully admits to chain smoking, and to much indulgence in his youth in extra-legal recreational pharmacology. But since he’s thin and a man he gets to lecture America about all our supposedly terrible eating habits. It’s amusing to imagine what the likely reaction would be if a fat or average weight or for that matter even thin woman with the same autobiography tried to pull this off.

Deen has diabetes for three reasons: her genes, her age, and her weight. The big myth that drives all the moralizing regarding the latter is that it is somehow significantly more malleable than the former two factors, when in fact it would be more accurate to say that it is a product of them.


More at: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/01/17/no-proof-paula-deen-s-high-fat-southern-cooking-caused-her-diabetes.html

But yeah, Bourdain's a saint.

Tunkamerica

(4,444 posts)
19. I was just agreeing with you that he shouldn't be allowed to have opinions because he smokes.
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 11:11 PM
Jan 2012

But I see now that he also must be sainted to do so and that eating unhealthily does not contribute to weight gain for anyone, ever.

I'm up to speed.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,500 posts)
23. Bourdain has no problem with butter as I've read both
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 11:22 PM
Jan 2012

"Kitchen Confidential" and Le Halles recipe book. He might have a problem with Snickers and whatever the fuck else that lady cooks with.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
16. "Southern Cooking" as it's called is quite deadly.
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 10:07 PM
Jan 2012

Ms. Deen should have taken ill with a much more serious problem (heart failure) two decades ago with her Cracker (crapper) Barrel cooking.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
25. I can "cook Southern" without tons of fat.
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 11:25 PM
Jan 2012

Seriously...

I'm allergic to pork and can still get a FANTASTIC gravy on the table.

Please.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
24. Bourdain Slams Everyone
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 11:23 PM
Jan 2012

At first, I found him funny.

Now his schtick is so very tired.

He needs to wax something, but NOT poetic. Yawn.

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