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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat's up with Nikki Haley?
1. She can get votes. Will Trump choose her as his VP?
2. Or is she hoping to run for president in the event Trump is unable to run?
3. Or solidifying her base for a run in four years?
4. Given Trump's current problems, will Haley's rumored affairs hurt her?
LeftInTX
(28,894 posts)Irish_Dem
(55,400 posts)And make up for the votes he is losing from all the bad publicity right now.
It is going to be interesting to see what he does.
Will he be pragmatic or emotional in choosing a VP?
Happy Hoosier
(8,065 posts)People voting for her ae explicitly NOT voting for Trump. Will the people supporting her in the primaries vote for Trump in the general? I'd say most of them, yes. And her being VEEP won't really change that. I think VEEPs can pull a ticket down but not really pull it up.
Irish_Dem
(55,400 posts)Some GOP people like her.
Yes but we are not talking about a normal election.
Nikki only pulls the ticket up with a scumbag is running for POTUS.
Happy Hoosier
(8,065 posts)Most of them will.
Veeps don't usually move the needle for candidates anymore. Unless they are psychos, like Palin.... and even that was a different time.
Irish_Dem
(55,400 posts)(Which boggles the mind.)
So every vote counts.
If Biden can peel off some of the Haley voters that would be great.
getagrip_already
(16,843 posts)the primaries are proving that. Indiana had trump winning by something like 90%. He ended up with less than 80%.
Those were polls in a fairly conservative state. Of republican voters. registered voters.
and they still blew it by over 10%.
This has happened at every primary this year. Biden overperforms, trump underperforms.
You really don't need much more evidence the polls are wrong.
Irish_Dem
(55,400 posts)Biden's ground game and raising money are good.
But we have to take into account the fact Trump, GOP, Russia and China will cheat to
install Trump in to the WH.
getagrip_already
(16,843 posts)but the question was polls.
They are crap for a lot of reasons, but we shouldn't just sit and relax.
We have to win by a margin so large they can't steal it. Win so many states that the EC won't even be close.
Don't let that f'ing camel close enough to the tent to even think about putting its nose under.
Aristus
(67,517 posts)I genuinely don't know how many Trumpsters will hold their noses and vote, or just stay home on Election Day and shoot their dogs, or whatever it is those guys do.
DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)I think that would alienate many of the people who supported her BECAUSE they didn't want Trump again....
Tickle
(2,891 posts)I had no idea she was having affairs
Irish_Dem
(55,400 posts)Previously, Haley denied being unfaithful to her husband, but recent reports bring that denial into question. The allegations are originally from 2010 during Haleys gubernatorial campaign. She was accused of improper relationships by two separate men; one was a lobbyist, and the other was a political blogger, Politico reported at the time. Last week, the Daily Mail published an article revisiting those incidents, with details appearing to validate the claims of Haleys transgressions.
Tickle
(2,891 posts)no idea these things happened. Never a dull moment with the repubs
Irish_Dem
(55,400 posts)There are probably more.
But maybe people won't care anymore.
Trump has lowered the bar considerably.
Aussie105
(5,955 posts)That bar disappeared the moment he walked down the stairs after being elected years ago.
Or maybe when he said you can grab them by the pussy - not too sure, but I know the bar that made Carter sell his peanut farm is definitely ancient history.
Kaleva
(37,517 posts)Prior to that, media stayed away from reporting on public figures affairs even though it was commonplace.
lastlib
(24,334 posts)Whatever floats her boat, but ....
Irish_Dem
(55,400 posts)Except when they insist on being the arbiters of American morality.
The GOP is in our private lives.
So we get to be in theirs.
lastlib
(24,334 posts)"It's the hypocrisy, stupid." (that's not you, BTW.)
Irish_Dem
(55,400 posts)One for the rest of us.
I have been called worse names, but I know what you meant!
The Washington Examiner is barely above the National Enquirer when it comes to credibility, and the Daily Fail is just as much of a tabloid as the Enquirer. It is not a serious paper.
Is there another source on the issue that isn't so...tainted?
Irish_Dem
(55,400 posts)It has been a persistent and long time story about Nikki Haley.
Polybius
(16,805 posts)It's not like it was 25 years ago.
hlthe2b
(104,818 posts)Irish_Dem
(55,400 posts)But also keeping other options open.
However aligning herself with Trump is risky if she goes that route.
Lonestarblue
(11,239 posts)She risks becoming another Pence, known for nothing now but his adoring gazes at Trump and being a religious extremist.
Mike Nelson
(10,207 posts)... her voting block/following is "FOR SALE" and waiting for the correct price.
Irish_Dem
(55,400 posts)Good point.
She is running for the cash.
Will she make more running or not running?
Waiting for the correct price.
DFW
(55,855 posts)Late in the campaign, if Trump suffers a stroke or a conviction, I think itll be straw grasping time, and shell be yelling, Grasp me, grasp me!!
mopinko
(71,358 posts)i think thats y shes keeping her mouth shut.
hopefully after the convention, she endorses joe.
DFW
(55,855 posts)But she is a prominent Republican, Sly moves are seldom in their DNA.
mopinko
(71,358 posts)Irish_Dem
(55,400 posts)She is very ambitious and wants to run for POTUS in 4 years.
If she makes nice with Dems, the GOP and MAGAS will not like her
and hold it against her.
mopinko
(71,358 posts)shes the 1 who can lay the claim to that crown if she backs joe.
Irish_Dem
(55,400 posts)Has not worked out for her.
But the biggest problem with this scenario is that Nikki Haley has NO moral core.
She is empty.
She is not capable of doing the right thing.
berksdem
(644 posts)endorsing Joe. I would put it at a 3% chance at this point.
Emile
(27,471 posts)are extremely partisan and the power of the magic R has over their empty brains.
mopinko
(71,358 posts)and the person who struck the 1st blows will b the hero.
Irish_Dem
(55,400 posts)If Trump cannot run for whatever reason (and the reasons are readily apparent)
Nikki Haley is conveniently waiting in the wings.
She has proven she can get votes even when she is no longer running.
Dulcinea
(7,164 posts)If Dolt 45 can't run this time for whatever reason, she wants to be the default setting for the GOP.
If Dolt 45 does run, she'll try again in 2028, along with the anti-woke messiah Ron DeathSentence. I doubt Bronze Stalin will run again after this.
Irish_Dem
(55,400 posts)Nikki wants to claim his spot in 4 years.
bucolic_frolic
(45,677 posts)How does orange turd go out in public to campaign after this week?
Irish_Dem
(55,400 posts)And Romney is not MAGA enough.
I don't see them running together, unless things really change.
tanyev
(43,929 posts)He goes to staged rallies filled with adoring cult members. Only thing that would stop that is if he got himself thrown in the slammer.
ms liberty
(9,504 posts)And if he doesn't, well there's still '28.
lastlib
(24,334 posts)Why would she (or anybody, for that matter) want to be known to history as "Trump's number TWO"? The jokes would write themselves.
Irish_Dem
(55,400 posts)Trump having a medical problem, death, or incarceration could mean she assumes the presidency.
onenote
(43,843 posts)Take the nomination if somehow Trump was out, but that's not happening.
Irish_Dem
(55,400 posts)She can get the votes and Trump needs her.
Emile
(27,471 posts)Pretty sad political party.
Irish_Dem
(55,400 posts)Yep that is the reality of the GOP.
Voltaire2
(14,381 posts)So Nikki (I'm really a white person) Haley is now the top contender for 'Need a woman on the ticket'. Of course TSF might decide he needs an idiot black man instead.
Emile
(27,471 posts)lees1975
(5,063 posts)He's a black man. The orange turd can't do it.
Emile
(27,471 posts)Carlitos Brigante
(26,692 posts)Irish_Dem
(55,400 posts)So yes if it serves her purposes she would kiss Trump's ass.
Carlitos Brigante
(26,692 posts)country, then blaming their daughters bit. But the other one.
Irish_Dem
(55,400 posts)Lets Trump defame and lie about him and his wife.
Then turns around and kisses Trump's ass.
LetMyPeopleVote
(151,651 posts)Irish_Dem
(55,400 posts)He is a former GOP consultant turned off by them now.
Working in the democracy ecosystem.
He says Biden should be working to get the Haley votes, he thinks it is quite doable.
Bristlecone
(10,337 posts)themaguffin
(4,110 posts)Also, trump will not pick her.
And she likely hopes to run, but the base hates her.
Irish_Dem
(55,400 posts)But they are there and never go away.
ETA If she wants to have a real presidential campaign one day she is going
to have to be strong enough to deal with theses stories.
themaguffin
(4,110 posts)krawhitham
(4,779 posts)And she might be right