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Irish_Dem

(55,400 posts)
Fri May 10, 2024, 04:13 AM May 2024

What's up with Nikki Haley?

1. She can get votes. Will Trump choose her as his VP?

2. Or is she hoping to run for president in the event Trump is unable to run?

3. Or solidifying her base for a run in four years?

4. Given Trump's current problems, will Haley's rumored affairs hurt her?

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What's up with Nikki Haley? (Original Post) Irish_Dem May 2024 OP
Trump won't choose her. Too much bad blood. LeftInTX May 2024 #1
Yes but he knows she can get votes. Irish_Dem May 2024 #3
Can she? Happy Hoosier May 2024 #41
Maybe they are genuinely voting for Nikki. Irish_Dem May 2024 #43
Maybe. But will they still vote for Trump? Happy Hoosier May 2024 #50
The polls seem to suggest a close election. Irish_Dem May 2024 #53
the polls that count, elections, blow poll results into the trash getagrip_already May 2024 #55
That is what some of the Dem strategists are saying. Irish_Dem May 2024 #57
of course..... getagrip_already May 2024 #59
I still can't picture Trump voters showing up on Election Day with a woman of color on the ticket. Aristus May 2024 #56
She won't run with Trump and he won't ask her. If she did become his #2, DemocraticPatriot May 2024 #45
Please tell all Tickle May 2024 #2
Yes, history of being unfaithful to her husband. Irish_Dem May 2024 #4
😂 Ithsnk you I had Tickle May 2024 #5
These are just the two affairs we know about. Irish_Dem May 2024 #6
Lowered the bar? Aussie105 May 2024 #7
It started with Clinton Kaleva May 2024 #37
Living their "family values"............ lastlib May 2024 #19
Yep. I don't care who people sleep with. Irish_Dem May 2024 #39
Agreed! lastlib May 2024 #44
Yep. Two sets of rules. One for them. Irish_Dem May 2024 #49
Oh dear NanaCat May 2024 #60
Maybe do a search and see what you come up with. Irish_Dem May 2024 #62
Affairs don't matter anymore in politics Polybius May 2024 #65
2028 (and waiting in the wings, just in case--my opinion) hlthe2b May 2024 #8
Yes I think so. Irish_Dem May 2024 #9
If she goes with Trump, he will not tolerate much independence because the limelight mustvalways be on him. Lonestarblue May 2024 #12
My take... Mike Nelson May 2024 #10
Yes she is meeting with her "donors." Irish_Dem May 2024 #11
I tend toward Door Number Two DFW May 2024 #13
i mean, she has a valid claim. mopinko May 2024 #14
If Trump is still the nominee after their convention, it would be a sly move DFW May 2024 #17
i think they r in hers. mopinko May 2024 #31
I don't see her endorsing Joe. Irish_Dem May 2024 #23
and if she wants to lead the party back into the light- mopinko May 2024 #30
Liz Cheney already tried that. Irish_Dem May 2024 #33
I can't see her berksdem May 2024 #34
She'll never endorse Joe. Never forget Republicans Emile May 2024 #46
and at some point in the, hopefully near, future all that falls. mopinko May 2024 #54
Yes I think this is a motive. Irish_Dem May 2024 #21
2 and/or 3. Dulcinea May 2024 #15
Yes this is the orange turd's last hurrah. Irish_Dem May 2024 #24
Romney-Haley will prove competitive bucolic_frolic May 2024 #16
Haley is very ambitious. Irish_Dem May 2024 #25
He doesn't go out in public. tanyev May 2024 #32
She's hoping the defendant will stroke out or something ms liberty May 2024 #18
Accept VP nom? lastlib May 2024 #20
Because she wants to be #1. Irish_Dem May 2024 #26
She's keeping her powder dry. She'll take the VP spot if offered. onenote May 2024 #22
Would not surprise me in the least. Irish_Dem May 2024 #27
She is hanging around in the case Trump ends up in prison. Emile May 2024 #28
Ends up in jail or strokes out. Irish_Dem May 2024 #29
Puppy Killer Fucked Up. Voltaire2 May 2024 #35
Tim Scott has it sewed up! Emile May 2024 #47
I don't think he'll choose Scott in the long run. lees1975 May 2024 #58
He loves ASS KISSERS and Scott is the best. Emile May 2024 #67
She'll "kiss the ring" in the end. Most of them do. These people are all scumbags. nt Carlitos Brigante May 2024 #36
She is ambitious. She will do whatever it takes to get what she wants. Irish_Dem May 2024 #38
I can see her pulling a "Ted Cruz". And I don't mean the fleeing to another Carlitos Brigante May 2024 #40
Yep. Irish_Dem May 2024 #42
If President Biden can get a portion of these Haley voters, then President Biden should win LetMyPeopleVote May 2024 #48
Yes Tim Miller at the Bulwark says the same thing. Irish_Dem May 2024 #52
She would 100 percent accept a VP slot Bristlecone May 2024 #51
I don't like Haley, but #4 is pretty sleazy. themaguffin May 2024 #61
The long time and persistent rumors are sleazy. Irish_Dem May 2024 #63
First that I've heard, but she's a woman, so she's a slut and a bitch to many by default. themaguffin May 2024 #64
She thinks the RNC will give her the nomination at the convention after trump is found guilty in NY krawhitham May 2024 #66

Irish_Dem

(55,400 posts)
3. Yes but he knows she can get votes.
Fri May 10, 2024, 04:20 AM
May 2024

And make up for the votes he is losing from all the bad publicity right now.

It is going to be interesting to see what he does.

Will he be pragmatic or emotional in choosing a VP?

Happy Hoosier

(8,065 posts)
41. Can she?
Fri May 10, 2024, 09:41 AM
May 2024

People voting for her ae explicitly NOT voting for Trump. Will the people supporting her in the primaries vote for Trump in the general? I'd say most of them, yes. And her being VEEP won't really change that. I think VEEPs can pull a ticket down but not really pull it up.

Irish_Dem

(55,400 posts)
43. Maybe they are genuinely voting for Nikki.
Fri May 10, 2024, 09:56 AM
May 2024

Some GOP people like her.

Yes but we are not talking about a normal election.
Nikki only pulls the ticket up with a scumbag is running for POTUS.

Happy Hoosier

(8,065 posts)
50. Maybe. But will they still vote for Trump?
Fri May 10, 2024, 10:20 AM
May 2024

Most of them will.

Veeps don't usually move the needle for candidates anymore. Unless they are psychos, like Palin.... and even that was a different time.

Irish_Dem

(55,400 posts)
53. The polls seem to suggest a close election.
Fri May 10, 2024, 10:25 AM
May 2024

(Which boggles the mind.)

So every vote counts.

If Biden can peel off some of the Haley voters that would be great.

getagrip_already

(16,843 posts)
55. the polls that count, elections, blow poll results into the trash
Fri May 10, 2024, 11:34 AM
May 2024

the primaries are proving that. Indiana had trump winning by something like 90%. He ended up with less than 80%.

Those were polls in a fairly conservative state. Of republican voters. registered voters.

and they still blew it by over 10%.

This has happened at every primary this year. Biden overperforms, trump underperforms.

You really don't need much more evidence the polls are wrong.

Irish_Dem

(55,400 posts)
57. That is what some of the Dem strategists are saying.
Fri May 10, 2024, 12:03 PM
May 2024

Biden's ground game and raising money are good.

But we have to take into account the fact Trump, GOP, Russia and China will cheat to
install Trump in to the WH.

getagrip_already

(16,843 posts)
59. of course.....
Fri May 10, 2024, 12:10 PM
May 2024

but the question was polls.

They are crap for a lot of reasons, but we shouldn't just sit and relax.

We have to win by a margin so large they can't steal it. Win so many states that the EC won't even be close.

Don't let that f'ing camel close enough to the tent to even think about putting its nose under.

Aristus

(67,517 posts)
56. I still can't picture Trump voters showing up on Election Day with a woman of color on the ticket.
Fri May 10, 2024, 11:44 AM
May 2024

I genuinely don't know how many Trumpsters will hold their noses and vote, or just stay home on Election Day and shoot their dogs, or whatever it is those guys do.

 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
45. She won't run with Trump and he won't ask her. If she did become his #2,
Fri May 10, 2024, 10:06 AM
May 2024

I think that would alienate many of the people who supported her BECAUSE they didn't want Trump again....

Irish_Dem

(55,400 posts)
4. Yes, history of being unfaithful to her husband.
Fri May 10, 2024, 04:24 AM
May 2024
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/2811156/nikki-haleys-affairs-taint-her-image/

Previously, Haley denied being unfaithful to her husband, but recent reports bring that denial into question. The allegations are originally from 2010 during Haley’s gubernatorial campaign. She was accused of improper relationships by two separate men; one was a lobbyist, and the other was a political blogger, Politico reported at the time. Last week, the Daily Mail published an article revisiting those incidents, with details appearing to validate the claims of Haley’s transgressions.


Irish_Dem

(55,400 posts)
6. These are just the two affairs we know about.
Fri May 10, 2024, 04:33 AM
May 2024

There are probably more.

But maybe people won't care anymore.
Trump has lowered the bar considerably.

Aussie105

(5,955 posts)
7. Lowered the bar?
Fri May 10, 2024, 05:20 AM
May 2024

That bar disappeared the moment he walked down the stairs after being elected years ago.

Or maybe when he said you can grab them by the pussy - not too sure, but I know the bar that made Carter sell his peanut farm is definitely ancient history.

Kaleva

(37,517 posts)
37. It started with Clinton
Fri May 10, 2024, 09:31 AM
May 2024

Prior to that, media stayed away from reporting on public figures affairs even though it was commonplace.

Irish_Dem

(55,400 posts)
39. Yep. I don't care who people sleep with.
Fri May 10, 2024, 09:37 AM
May 2024

Except when they insist on being the arbiters of American morality.
The GOP is in our private lives.
So we get to be in theirs.

Irish_Dem

(55,400 posts)
49. Yep. Two sets of rules. One for them.
Fri May 10, 2024, 10:16 AM
May 2024

One for the rest of us.

I have been called worse names, but I know what you meant!

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
60. Oh dear
Fri May 10, 2024, 02:28 PM
May 2024

The Washington Examiner is barely above the National Enquirer when it comes to credibility, and the Daily Fail is just as much of a tabloid as the Enquirer. It is not a serious paper.

Is there another source on the issue that isn't so...tainted?

Irish_Dem

(55,400 posts)
62. Maybe do a search and see what you come up with.
Fri May 10, 2024, 02:46 PM
May 2024

It has been a persistent and long time story about Nikki Haley.

Irish_Dem

(55,400 posts)
9. Yes I think so.
Fri May 10, 2024, 05:25 AM
May 2024

But also keeping other options open.

However aligning herself with Trump is risky if she goes that route.

Lonestarblue

(11,239 posts)
12. If she goes with Trump, he will not tolerate much independence because the limelight mustvalways be on him.
Fri May 10, 2024, 06:56 AM
May 2024

She risks becoming another Pence, known for nothing now but his adoring gazes at Trump and being a religious extremist.

Irish_Dem

(55,400 posts)
11. Yes she is meeting with her "donors."
Fri May 10, 2024, 06:48 AM
May 2024

Good point.

She is running for the cash.

Will she make more running or not running?

Waiting for the correct price.

DFW

(55,855 posts)
13. I tend toward Door Number Two
Fri May 10, 2024, 07:02 AM
May 2024

Late in the campaign, if Trump suffers a stroke or a conviction, I think it’ll be straw grasping time, and she’ll be yelling, Grasp me, grasp me!!

mopinko

(71,358 posts)
14. i mean, she has a valid claim.
Fri May 10, 2024, 07:28 AM
May 2024

i think that’s y she’s keeping her mouth shut.
hopefully after the convention, she endorses joe.

DFW

(55,855 posts)
17. If Trump is still the nominee after their convention, it would be a sly move
Fri May 10, 2024, 07:42 AM
May 2024

But she is a prominent Republican, Sly moves are seldom in their DNA.

Irish_Dem

(55,400 posts)
23. I don't see her endorsing Joe.
Fri May 10, 2024, 07:57 AM
May 2024

She is very ambitious and wants to run for POTUS in 4 years.
If she makes nice with Dems, the GOP and MAGAS will not like her
and hold it against her.

mopinko

(71,358 posts)
30. and if she wants to lead the party back into the light-
Fri May 10, 2024, 08:03 AM
May 2024

she’s the 1 who can lay the claim to that crown if she backs joe.

Irish_Dem

(55,400 posts)
33. Liz Cheney already tried that.
Fri May 10, 2024, 09:06 AM
May 2024

Has not worked out for her.

But the biggest problem with this scenario is that Nikki Haley has NO moral core.
She is empty.

She is not capable of doing the right thing.

Emile

(27,471 posts)
46. She'll never endorse Joe. Never forget Republicans
Fri May 10, 2024, 10:08 AM
May 2024

are extremely partisan and the power of the magic R has over their empty brains.

mopinko

(71,358 posts)
54. and at some point in the, hopefully near, future all that falls.
Fri May 10, 2024, 10:25 AM
May 2024

and the person who struck the 1st blows will b the hero.

Irish_Dem

(55,400 posts)
21. Yes I think this is a motive.
Fri May 10, 2024, 07:55 AM
May 2024

If Trump cannot run for whatever reason (and the reasons are readily apparent)
Nikki Haley is conveniently waiting in the wings.

She has proven she can get votes even when she is no longer running.

Dulcinea

(7,164 posts)
15. 2 and/or 3.
Fri May 10, 2024, 07:40 AM
May 2024

If Dolt 45 can't run this time for whatever reason, she wants to be the default setting for the GOP.

If Dolt 45 does run, she'll try again in 2028, along with the anti-woke messiah Ron DeathSentence. I doubt Bronze Stalin will run again after this.

Irish_Dem

(55,400 posts)
25. Haley is very ambitious.
Fri May 10, 2024, 08:00 AM
May 2024

And Romney is not MAGA enough.

I don't see them running together, unless things really change.

tanyev

(43,929 posts)
32. He doesn't go out in public.
Fri May 10, 2024, 08:15 AM
May 2024

He goes to staged rallies filled with adoring cult members. Only thing that would stop that is if he got himself thrown in the slammer.

lastlib

(24,334 posts)
20. Accept VP nom?
Fri May 10, 2024, 07:51 AM
May 2024

Why would she (or anybody, for that matter) want to be known to history as "Trump's number TWO"? The jokes would write themselves.

Irish_Dem

(55,400 posts)
26. Because she wants to be #1.
Fri May 10, 2024, 08:01 AM
May 2024

Trump having a medical problem, death, or incarceration could mean she assumes the presidency.

onenote

(43,843 posts)
22. She's keeping her powder dry. She'll take the VP spot if offered.
Fri May 10, 2024, 07:56 AM
May 2024

Take the nomination if somehow Trump was out, but that's not happening.

Voltaire2

(14,381 posts)
35. Puppy Killer Fucked Up.
Fri May 10, 2024, 09:26 AM
May 2024

So Nikki (I'm really a white person) Haley is now the top contender for 'Need a woman on the ticket'. Of course TSF might decide he needs an idiot black man instead.

Irish_Dem

(55,400 posts)
38. She is ambitious. She will do whatever it takes to get what she wants.
Fri May 10, 2024, 09:35 AM
May 2024

So yes if it serves her purposes she would kiss Trump's ass.

Carlitos Brigante

(26,692 posts)
40. I can see her pulling a "Ted Cruz". And I don't mean the fleeing to another
Fri May 10, 2024, 09:41 AM
May 2024

country, then blaming their daughters bit. But the other one.

Irish_Dem

(55,400 posts)
52. Yes Tim Miller at the Bulwark says the same thing.
Fri May 10, 2024, 10:23 AM
May 2024

He is a former GOP consultant turned off by them now.
Working in the democracy ecosystem.

He says Biden should be working to get the Haley votes, he thinks it is quite doable.

themaguffin

(4,110 posts)
61. I don't like Haley, but #4 is pretty sleazy.
Fri May 10, 2024, 02:46 PM
May 2024

Also, trump will not pick her.

And she likely hopes to run, but the base hates her.

Irish_Dem

(55,400 posts)
63. The long time and persistent rumors are sleazy.
Fri May 10, 2024, 02:47 PM
May 2024

But they are there and never go away.

ETA If she wants to have a real presidential campaign one day she is going
to have to be strong enough to deal with theses stories.

krawhitham

(4,779 posts)
66. She thinks the RNC will give her the nomination at the convention after trump is found guilty in NY
Fri May 10, 2024, 03:13 PM
May 2024

And she might be right

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