Petitions to remove Aileen Cannon

[kingvitamin]

Petitions linked in article.
[link:https://www.yahoo.com/news/remove-aileen-cannon-calls-grow-164221745.html|

[Fiendish Thingy]

1. The sole purpose of internet petitions is to harvest your data

And sell it to fundraisers.

No substantive change has ever been effected by an Internet petition.

[kingvitamin]

4. What about these?

[link:https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/22/us/top-petitions-decade-change-trnd/index.html|

[sl8]

7. Maybe. But it reads like Change.org saying that Change.org petitions are effective.

I only skimmed the article, but it looks like they're all Change.org petitions and Change.org saying how effective they are. Not exactly an unbiased source.

As I said, I only skimmed the piece, perhaps I missed something.

[Takket]

5. You nailed it

Don't participate in this nonsense.

[Hekate]

24. 'Fraid so

[KPN]

2. Aileen Cannon needs to be investigated. Her actions sure seem like sufficient cause to

question not just her objectivity as judge on this case, but whether there may be something more in the way of indebtedness to the "orange turd" than just gratification for the appointment. In a case of this importance, it strikes me that any potential for a "quid pro quo" or other "business" deal driving her rulings should, if nothing else, be discounted via a thorough investigation. Her rulings on the o.t.'s case are outliers --- way outside of the norm it seems.

[TexasDem69]

9. Do you want to investigate every judge "outside the norm"?

Who does the investigation and who decides the norm? I’m absolutely opposed to investigating people because we don’t agree with them. McCarthy would be on board though.

[triron]

12. Cannon is just a teeny weeny bit beyond merely 'outside

The norm'. Would you claim that Trump is merely
'Outside the norm' for presidential candidates?

[onenote]

14. are you an expert in what the 'norm' is for federal litigation, including CIPA litigation?

[TexasDem69]

19. No she isn't

You just don’t like her rulings. That doesn’t make her outside the norm.

[ProfessorGAC]

3. Seems Utterly Useless

I can't imagine the decision to let a judge oversee a case is influenced by petitions.

[kingvitamin]

6. What could be more useless than doing nothing?

I'm not saying it's going to be successful, but petitions have worked in the past. If enough people sign this petition/s the media will focus more attention on what Aileen Cannon has done. Just getting this issue in the public awareness can create a movement for change.

[DemocratInPa]

8. This isn't going to work..

LOL

[TexasDem69]

10. Expending energy and time on something

That has zero chance of changing things—literally zero, not a hypothetical zero—is demonstrably worse than doing nothing. Would you spend time and energy on a petition to ban gravity? That would have as much chance of success as this petition.

[TwilightZone]

11. No one in any position to make a decision about Cannon is going to be influenced by an internet petition.

[Phoenix61]

32. No they won't but editors who decide if a story is

worth devoting resources to it can be influenced. I wouldn’t be the least bit shocked to learn there is something in her past that would warrant her removal from the bench.

[onenote]

15. and what if in response to a petition or a complaint, the relevant authorities conclude she's done nothing warranting

her removal. Which is the most likely outcome.

How does that help?

[kingvitamin]

18. If that's the outcome we're no worse off then we are now.

But, if there's a chance, even a small one, that a petition might get enough signatures that it can't be ignored by the media, then maybe something can happen.

[TexasDem69]

20. Enough signatures for what?

It could get a billion signatures and she remains on this case and a judge unless she is impeached. Do you think the house is going to impeach Cannon?

[kingvitamin]

21. Historical examples.

Brock Turner Case (Judge Aaron Persky): Judge Aaron Persky faced public outcry and a petition demanding his removal from office after his controversial sentencing of Brock Turner for sexual assault. Ultimately, he was recalled from his judicial position.

Roy Moore (Alabama Chief Justice): While Roy Moore's removal from office primarily stemmed from judicial ethics violations related to a Ten Commandments monument, public pressure and petitions contributed to the scrutiny of his actions.

Judge John Cebull (Racist Email Controversy): Judge Cebull retired from the bench amidst calls for his resignation due to public outrage over a racist email he forwarded from his official email account.

[TexasDem69]

23. Two of those are state court judges

And I don’t know if they were subject to state impeachment proceedings but that’s a different animal altogether. Richard Cebull was a federal court judge who took senior status after he forwarded a racist email. He wasn’t impeached and he wasn’t removed. And I’m not aware of Cannon making racist statements.

What impeachable offenses has Judge Cannon committed? Only a handful of federal judges have ever been impeached. And none because they granted a stay.

On edit, I don’t care in the least if people want to promote a pointless petition, just think it’s pointless.

[brooklynite]

16. What's an example of a petition working in the past?

[kingvitamin]

17. I posted this previously, but since summer reruns are almost here...

[link:https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/22/us/top-petitions-decade-change-trnd/index.html|

[kingvitamin]

22. Here's three examples.

Brock Turner Case (Judge Aaron Persky): Judge Aaron Persky faced public outcry and a petition demanding his removal from office after his controversial sentencing of Brock Turner for sexual assault. Ultimately, he was recalled from his judicial position.

Roy Moore (Alabama Chief Justice): While Roy Moore's removal from office primarily stemmed from judicial ethics violations related to a Ten Commandments monument, public pressure and petitions contributed to the scrutiny of his actions.

Judge John Cebull (Racist Email Controversy): Judge Cebull retired from the bench amidst calls for his resignation due to public outrage over a racist email he forwarded from his official email account.

[live love laugh]

28. Signing a petition to remove a judge is doing nothing.

[Retrograde]

13. There are two ways to remove Cannon

or any other federal judge. 1) They can resign. 2) They can be impeached in the House and convicted in the Senate. I suppose they can die as well, but the Trump appointees seem young and healthy.

Petitions won't do it.

[Traurigkeit]

29. there is always a way

[elocs]

25. Petitions...so that's how judges get removed. Who knew? n/t

[RandySF]

26. That's not how it works.

Jack Smith has to go to the 11th Circuit to remove her from the case.

[live love laugh]

27. Exactly. This online stuff just serves to peel off the throngs

by making them simply think they are actually doing something that makes a difference.

[bucolic_frolic]

30. Judge Aileen Cannon's Bias Is Showing

My words: Should any choose to file, let's keep it classy, reasoned, short. Only those who really follow and have legal minds or even backgrounds should consider it, IMHO. Courts don't need to be clogged with sniping, low lifery, and churlish appeals. It weakens the case to be made.

[kingvitamin]

31. How to file a judicial ethics complaint -- great info!

Glenn Kirshner makes the complaint process amazingly easy. Only 2 pages to print and mail.