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Dear Young Black, White and Latino Men.. before you throw your support behind Trump (Original Post) Peacetrain May 22 OP
This! calimary May 22 #1
Why do you think they would have a problem with this ? JI7 May 22 #2
Anyone with good moral character John Shaft May 22 #3
Then why are they supporting Trump ? JI7 May 22 #5
Because they are people of low moral character John Shaft May 22 #7
Right on. Efilroft Sul May 22 #16
The latest lame excuse is... czarjak May 22 #17
For a lot of men, hating women comes first. Sky Jewels May 22 #4
This. Trump supporters trend toward misogyny, racism, and anti-immigrant bigotry. LuvLoogie May 22 #11
I've been male for a long time Dan May 22 #12
I am a woman. ShazzieB May 22 #14
I think it ranges from hate to a generalized feeling that they feel entitled to control women. Sky Jewels May 22 #18
I find merit in what you say here... Dan May 22 #19
It has been my experience that MOST men engage in abusive behaviors. Coventina May 22 #22
Oh, they don't care. It's fake news or Roman history or whatever. betsuni May 22 #6
And Abbot's pardon of a convicted killer. keithbvadu2 May 22 #8
They agree with these things. JI7 May 22 #9
Alpha male, macho man, says what he thinks everyone else be damned,... magicarpet May 22 #10
And to everyone having a birthday this year... Trust_Reality May 22 #13
Absolutely spot on. Though I imagine B.See May 22 #21
But he treats women badly IronLionZion May 22 #15
THIS! for posts 1,2,4,7,8,9,10,11,13,15,17 and 18. The plain simple fact is that there ARE people B.See May 22 #20
Thank you!! TSExile May 22 #23
You forgot white women. tazkcmo May 23 #24

John Shaft

(460 posts)
7. Because they are people of low moral character
Wed May 22, 2024, 10:49 AM
May 22

Being a trump supporter outs you as being a bad person with low moral character.

Full stop. End of story. No parsing. No milquetoast "straining for context."

It is just fundamental truth.

Sky Jewels

(7,313 posts)
4. For a lot of men, hating women comes first.
Wed May 22, 2024, 10:41 AM
May 22

That's their priority --- to keep male supremacy. Trump is the perfect anti-women candidate.

Yeah, yeah, "not all men" ... But a lot. A LOT.

LuvLoogie

(7,156 posts)
11. This. Trump supporters trend toward misogyny, racism, and anti-immigrant bigotry.
Wed May 22, 2024, 12:01 PM
May 22

Economy? Defense? Education? Health? Environment? Fuck that shit.

trump hits them in their feels

Also, his rich supporters are sociopaths who view the general population like flora and fauna.

Dan

(3,669 posts)
12. I've been male for a long time
Wed May 22, 2024, 12:07 PM
May 22

And I can’t say that a “Lot” of men hate women.

There are some men that have problems with women for a variety of issues, but hate I just can’t get there.

I am sure that there are some men that hate women but I believe that might be a minority within a minority. I have know some men that beat women (there are various reasons that I have been told (such as my dad beat my mom, so; she needed it; etc.)) but they always appeared to be outside the norm to me. Yet I will say that I am not a woman.

Hate, I just can’t get there.

ShazzieB

(16,973 posts)
14. I am a woman.
Wed May 22, 2024, 12:28 PM
May 22

And I can't get there, either. I suppose it might depend on how one defines hate. Someone else's definition might be a lot different from mine, which is pretty narrow.

There are certainly misogynists among us, but I believe they're in the minority. I think there are a a good number of men who have "issues" with women of one sort or another, but outright hate? I don't see it.

Sky Jewels

(7,313 posts)
18. I think it ranges from hate to a generalized feeling that they feel entitled to control women.
Wed May 22, 2024, 06:40 PM
May 22

That male controlling nature is very, very prevalent. Again, not all men. But look at how the majority of male voters are just fine with Trump, even though he's a rapist and he is the reason we don't have Roe and he wants to grab women by the pussy and on and on and on...

Dan

(3,669 posts)
19. I find merit in what you say here...
Wed May 22, 2024, 07:03 PM
May 22

I would add a thought to what you say - :

Some men see strength in Trump because they do not look beyond the surface nor employ critical thinking.

We don’t have Roe because the majority of the SCOTUS jurist are men, but also because they are Catholics. Their faith drives our lives.


Coventina

(27,293 posts)
22. It has been my experience that MOST men engage in abusive behaviors.
Wed May 22, 2024, 08:22 PM
May 22

Only a few overcome it.

They don't realize that they are engaging in abusive behaviors, because they have been programmed to do so from birth.

1. Automatically thinking that their needs are more important than a woman's.
2. Automatically thinking that their duties are more important than a woman's.
3. Automatically thinking that "someone" will pick up after them, do their laundry, do their dishes, make sure food gets on the table, etc.
4. Automatically thinking that women should be concerned with the items in number 3.
5. Assuming that if his needs and her needs are in conflict, his will take precedence.

I could go on and on. I know many men will read this and insist they do no such thing.
I have YET to meet a man who does not do this.

magicarpet

(14,773 posts)
10. Alpha male, macho man, says what he thinks everyone else be damned,...
Wed May 22, 2024, 11:47 AM
May 22

Shit on women, shit on Blacks and Browns, shit on gays and trans, shit on any/all minorities if not 100% white, hetro, and khrishtun - spewing toxic masculinity day in and day out.

Revert back to the days when patriarchy ruled the roost without any debate or question. trDUMP embodies the hopes of males to return to the days of uncontested male privilege. That special pedestal should have never been surrendered or taken away.

Trust_Reality

(1,743 posts)
13. And to everyone having a birthday this year...
Wed May 22, 2024, 12:16 PM
May 22

I hope you enjoy it to the fullest… because…

This may be the last year this country has a justice system that has justice as its goal rather than retaliation and “retribution”.

This may be the last year before people of color are rounded up and treated like “animals” and “sub humans”. (Trump’s words)

This may be the last year the United States of America has a process called voting that actually matters as opposed to Russian type elections.

This may be the last year before a “strong” president declares the termination of Social Security and Medicare (because those programs pull money away from wealthy comrades).

This may be the year in which violence resembling a Civil War occurs. (Thanks to Trump and his thugs.)

This may be a year in which white Christians, both actively and passively, help elect a vile dishonest self serving documented sexual predator, expert business fraudster and con man, tax cheat, and dictator want-to-be who has declared he can get away with doing anything he wants to women because he is famous.

Truth matters. Honesty matters. Integrity matters.

B.See

(1,652 posts)
21. Absolutely spot on. Though I imagine
Wed May 22, 2024, 08:11 PM
May 22

it'll be a concern mostly for those youngin's (and their children) who'll have to live THROUGH that hellscape. What's that saying again about fkng around and finding out?

B.See

(1,652 posts)
20. THIS! for posts 1,2,4,7,8,9,10,11,13,15,17 and 18. The plain simple fact is that there ARE people
Wed May 22, 2024, 08:03 PM
May 22

including Black and Latino men, who find Trump's arrogance, bullying, maliciousness, misogyny, mean-spirited malevolence, and false bravado APPEALING, even to the point of identifying with him and deriving some sick sense of satisfaction (if not revenge) FROM it all.

Like Trump they (in general) loathe notions such as empathy and compassion. and feel empowerment from the exact opposite.

So it doesn't matter to them that Trump calls for the execution of Black men proven innocent, calls neo-Nazis very fine people, speaks of immigrants poisoning "our" blood, takes passages (almost verbatim) straight from Nazi Germany's playbook, and accuses America of "anti-white racism."

Does not matter to them that he does everything he can to court fascist, racist, white supremacist sentiment, but has YET to say a single FKNG thing in condemnation of it.

Add to that a number of Black and other minority (so-called) celebrities, athletes, and entertainers, who've benefited from the patronage and support of our community,

yet who are stepping forward to garner their 15 seconds of recognition and (I'd imagine) some sick-fuck sense of satisfaction, by saying controversial shit in support of this criminal, racist, rabble-rouser...

the rapist whose CONTINUOUS message and ideology of HATE has even our CHILDREN, girls and boys, being traumatized, under attack and getting called the N-word - in schools, in public venues, and on social media - on a DAILY basis.

So that's why, as a Black man, I have absolutely no use for these mfkrs (as I've no doubt made clear via various posts herein) and in fact despise them even more so than their white supremacist counterparts, just for their complicity, ignorance, lack of vision, and betrayal.

But hey. Let me stop here before I say what I really think of 'em.

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