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LetMyPeopleVote

(147,302 posts)
Wed May 22, 2024, 11:31 AM May 22

Why Stefanik's new ethics complaint against Judge Merchan matters

House GOP Conference Chair Elise Stefanik is apparently trying to corner the market in filing ethics complaints. Judge Juan Merchan is her new target.



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/stefaniks-new-ethics-complaint-judge-merchan-matters-rcna153444

As assorted partisans compete for Donald Trump’s attention, his would-be running mates each try to excel in a specific area. For her part, House Republican Conference Chair Elise Stefanik is apparently trying to corner the market in baseless ethics complaints. Axios reported:

Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) filed an ethics complaint Tuesday accusing the judge presiding over former President Trump’s New York hush money trial of a conflict of interest, Axios has learned. ... The letter is unlikely to have an immediate effect on the trial, but it’s the latest chapter in Trump allies attempting to defend the former president by lodging complaints against the judge and prosecutors involved in the case.


The Axios report has not been independently verified by MSNBC or NBC News, though the New York congresswoman confirmed to the outlet that she believes Judge Juan Merchan has run afoul of state ethics laws.

The allegations are difficult to take seriously, but the point of this political gesture is not to present a compelling case to the New York State Commission on Judicial Conduct. Indeed, the commission’s members aren’t even the intended audience. Rather, this is about Stefanik trying to score cheap points with Mar-a-Lago.

Or, more to the point, Stefanik is trying to score cheap points with Mar-a-Lago again......

As assorted partisans compete for Donald Trump’s attention, his would-be running mates each try to excel in a specific area. For her part, House Republican Conference Chair Elise Stefanik is apparently trying to corner the market in baseless ethics complaints. Axios reported:

Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) filed an ethics complaint Tuesday accusing the judge presiding over former President Trump’s New York hush money trial of a conflict of interest, Axios has learned. ... The letter is unlikely to have an immediate effect on the trial, but it’s the latest chapter in Trump allies attempting to defend the former president by lodging complaints against the judge and prosecutors involved in the case.

The Axios report has not been independently verified by MSNBC or NBC News, though the New York congresswoman confirmed to the outlet that she believes Judge Juan Merchan has run afoul of state ethics laws.

The allegations are difficult to take seriously, but the point of this political gesture is not to present a compelling case to the New York State Commission on Judicial Conduct. Indeed, the commission’s members aren’t even the intended audience. Rather, this is about Stefanik trying to score cheap points with Mar-a-Lago.

Or, more to the point, Stefanik is trying to score cheap points with Mar-a-Lago again.
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Why Stefanik's new ethics complaint against Judge Merchan matters (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote May 22 OP
It's much more than trying to score political points. WestMichRad May 22 #1
Perhapd you could H2O Man May 22 #4
Seems to me there are around 140 in Congress not investigated for trying to overthrow Joe Biden GreenWave May 22 #28
That is true. H2O Man May 22 #36
while I take Rachel seriously NJCher May 22 #20
More Maddow was telling us to beware that tactics of the past are part of our present and systematic. PufPuf23 May 22 #30
so glad I read NJCher May 22 #35
Her weight has to do with her crap politics GenThePerservering May 22 #37
More body shaming, Conjuay May 23 #41
I never saw why it matters 🤷🏼‍♀️ MagickMuffin May 22 #2
I'm also not seeing why it matters... gristy May 22 #17
Wondering same MorbidButterflyTat May 22 #31
Recommended. H2O Man May 22 #3
Just setting the stage for appeal. returnee May 22 #5
An appeal has to be based upon a matter or law ScratchCat May 22 #8
How would this have anything to do with an appeal??? obamanut2012 May 22 #10
I defer to greater legal minds than my own returnee May 22 #16
MAGAts don't get to decide who should recuse MorbidButterflyTat May 22 #32
Spineless, corrupt political hack moondust May 22 #6
She's not his type. KS Toronado May 22 #7
LOL NJCher May 22 #21
Sadly, it's more than scoring cheap points HariSeldon May 22 #9
Then should it be taken seriously? Maybe Judge Merchan should recuse because MAGAts might get angry? MorbidButterflyTat May 22 #33
Merchan recuse? No! HariSeldon May 22 #34
I really wish he would just pick a running mate already. ShazzieB May 22 #11
Such a crap load of performative wannabes, all competing to get Daddy's attention and approval. Martin68 May 22 #12
A sitting Congress member is filing a complaint against a setting district judge? imanamerican63 May 22 #13
It's about marginalizing anyone with even a whiff of D about them EleanorR May 22 #14
That's been going on for at least 25 years. Dark n Stormy Knight May 23 #40
One name Rosie ODonnell rockbluff botanist May 22 #15
Trying to win a ball game Mr.Bill May 22 #18
Well, it looks like all the GOPers know Trump is going down on these charges Attilatheblond May 22 #19
They all see themselves sitting in the Glory Chair after *rump, for whatever reason, doesn't finish his term. NBachers May 22 #22
Can't wait for Stefanik to be kicked out of her seat in The House, then kicked out of NY!! Traurigkeit May 22 #23
And as glaringly obvious as staring at the Sun, no mention of Aileen Cannon. Tells you all you need to know ffr May 22 #24
Can complaints be filed against HER? calimary May 22 #25
She is just a front man, these lawsuits are being brought by RW groups and she is happy to lend her face Bev54 May 22 #26
Stunt duckworth969 May 22 #27
Why doesn't she simply walk into MAL, naked? Probably too ugly, being that her personality is just as bad. SWBTATTReg May 22 #29
He's never gonna pick you, hatemuppet... LowerManhattanite May 22 #38
She's trying to be just like TFG. Rhiannon12866 May 23 #39

WestMichRad

(1,379 posts)
1. It's much more than trying to score political points.
Wed May 22, 2024, 11:41 AM
May 22

As Rachael Maddow’s feature this past Monday explained, such tactics have historically succeeded in getting prosecutors and investigators tossed, and ultimately thwarted the prosecutions of Nazi sympathizers in our government. A sad chapter in our nation’s history.

Stefanik and her ilk are certainly trying for a similar outcome.

GreenWave

(7,253 posts)
28. Seems to me there are around 140 in Congress not investigated for trying to overthrow Joe Biden
Wed May 22, 2024, 02:38 PM
May 22

on J-6. Looks like some from SCROTUS were in on it too. Financiers still walking freely too.

NJCher

(36,092 posts)
20. while I take Rachel seriously
Wed May 22, 2024, 02:09 PM
May 22

I don't think she is telling us this is going to happen. She is warning us that it could and we need to stay on top of this.

Ummm, Elise, errrrr, I think you'd be better off investing your time at the gym, getting rid of that double chin. After all, you know trump didn't want to appear in public with his own daughter, Tiffany, because he thought she was fat. Your time would be much better spend on the treadmill, dear.

oh and p.s. stop asking your staff to bring in Krispy Kremes to the office. Just a tip.



PufPuf23

(8,953 posts)
30. More Maddow was telling us to beware that tactics of the past are part of our present and systematic.
Wed May 22, 2024, 02:42 PM
May 22

USA dodged the fascist bullet before but the tendency to fascism happens and the present resembles past outbreaks.

NJCher

(36,092 posts)
35. so glad I read
Wed May 22, 2024, 04:30 PM
May 22
Escape from Freedom when I was a young teen. It tells why there is a tendency for fascism to happen.

MagickMuffin

(16,097 posts)
2. I never saw why it matters 🤷🏼‍♀️
Wed May 22, 2024, 11:45 AM
May 22


It appears it isn’t really going anywhere but just the scoring cheap political points with her lord and master, their golden idol.


H2O Man

(73,994 posts)
3. Recommended.
Wed May 22, 2024, 11:49 AM
May 22

There is little to no chance of this doing more than showing the defendant that she will humiliate herself for him.

ScratchCat

(2,072 posts)
8. An appeal has to be based upon a matter or law
Wed May 22, 2024, 12:36 PM
May 22

This does not create a matter of law. Trump's attorneys can't use this as part of an appeal. As pointed out previously, she did this in lieu of a law suit because she does not have standing to file a law suit. The complaint matters not and will be thrown in the trash.

returnee

(96 posts)
16. I defer to greater legal minds than my own
Wed May 22, 2024, 01:36 PM
May 22

but could failure to recuse when indicated be an issue? Or could it just be one more possible delay tactic, even if it won’t go anywhere?

HariSeldon

(465 posts)
9. Sadly, it's more than scoring cheap points
Wed May 22, 2024, 12:50 PM
May 22

This is about creating/amplifying a narrative -- specifically, the narrative that the system is rigged against Trump.

Those with a firm belief that Trump is innocent will see the rejection of this meritless complaint as proof that the entire court system in NY is corrupt. Stefanik is playing to their established, ironclad beliefs.

MorbidButterflyTat

(1,958 posts)
33. Then should it be taken seriously? Maybe Judge Merchan should recuse because MAGAts might get angry?
Wed May 22, 2024, 04:08 PM
May 22

I think some people give too much credit to the alleged minds of MAGAts.

ShazzieB

(16,973 posts)
11. I really wish he would just pick a running mate already.
Wed May 22, 2024, 01:09 PM
May 22

The clowns who are vying for his favor have become more annoying than the orange man himself, due to their sheer numbers. I really wish he would pick somebody and shut the circus down.

Of course he's in no hurry, because he's enjoying the attention too much. GROAN

Martin68

(23,399 posts)
12. Such a crap load of performative wannabes, all competing to get Daddy's attention and approval.
Wed May 22, 2024, 01:14 PM
May 22

It's truly pathetic.

EleanorR

(2,419 posts)
14. It's about marginalizing anyone with even a whiff of D about them
Wed May 22, 2024, 01:21 PM
May 22

They're saying no judge, university president, media personality, jury with any ties to Democrats is capable of adjudicating in a fair and unbiased manner. They're training their cult to process anything from the left as inherently invalid.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,799 posts)
40. That's been going on for at least 25 years.
Thu May 23, 2024, 07:18 AM
May 23

The RW propaganda machine has been leading up to Dolt 45 and the total RW "Christian" takeover of the USA and they are on the verge of success now that Dolt 45 showed them they can blatantly lie, and cheat, steal, and claim the right to kill.

15. One name Rosie ODonnell
Wed May 22, 2024, 01:25 PM
May 22

Stefanik needs to watch Trump's comments about Rosie. She's in the same category. No VP for her.

Attilatheblond

(2,496 posts)
19. Well, it looks like all the GOPers know Trump is going down on these charges
Wed May 22, 2024, 01:59 PM
May 22

Defense knew they had no defense against the charges, and didn't even try, so maybe they are just looking for delays that will come from appeals.

The GOP pols know it but are willing to play games to show TSF how devoted to him they are.

And most obviously, The Sick Fuck knows it but still thinks he has the juice to save himself by playing mob boss.

NBachers

(17,319 posts)
22. They all see themselves sitting in the Glory Chair after *rump, for whatever reason, doesn't finish his term.
Wed May 22, 2024, 02:15 PM
May 22

ffr

(22,712 posts)
24. And as glaringly obvious as staring at the Sun, no mention of Aileen Cannon. Tells you all you need to know
Wed May 22, 2024, 02:26 PM
May 22

about how well her loyalty to TSF is admired within the QOP. It's a wretched stink!

Bev54

(10,183 posts)
26. She is just a front man, these lawsuits are being brought by RW groups and she is happy to lend her face
Wed May 22, 2024, 02:28 PM
May 22

She has no idea of the ethics laws etc, but she is stupid enough to prostitute herself to these groups.

SWBTATTReg

(22,540 posts)
29. Why doesn't she simply walk into MAL, naked? Probably too ugly, being that her personality is just as bad.
Wed May 22, 2024, 02:39 PM
May 22

You know, it's time to get serious people, and get back to not playing political games, and BS. She doesn't deserve to be a member of Congress.

LowerManhattanite

(2,397 posts)
38. He's never gonna pick you, hatemuppet...
Wed May 22, 2024, 06:36 PM
May 22

…and you cry yourself to sleep nights snarfing down countless Chik-Fil-As knowing exactly why, LOL

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